They now discuss the defense's desire to convene a witness from the Police's National Cyber ​​Crime Center (NC3).
The defense wishes to convene the witness to document that anything other than creepy execution videos were found on the hard disks and computers that are secured in the case.
The prosecutor now say that they dont deny that there are other things from Peter Madsen's everyday life, on the hard drives .
"But just like in an addict, we will of course only show what is relevant to the accusation in the case," the prosecutor said.
The referee interrupts the discussion and now says that the last witness of the day has arrived at the hall.
It is Jens Falkenberg, a friend of Peter Madsen.
The judge asks if it is true that the witness has been present in the court room during the first hearing of the case.
She asks because it is forbidden for the witness to be in the room with a case they are testifying in, before they are called.
- That's right, says the witness, who also says he became aware of it and called the police and said he had "stepped in the spinach".
The witness is nevertheless allowed to give an explanation.
The defense starts with the interrogation as it is their witness.
The witness tells that he has known Peter Madsen for 12 years.
"I had seen him on the submarine once and thought," That's what I want to do, "says the witness.
"Fate would that I met him again the next day, and then we became friends," the witness said.
The witness is educated in IT, but helped build Peter Madsen's submarines.
"When they were building Kraka (Peter's second submarine), I helped with a little bit of effort," said the witness.
- Kraka was built on Refshale Island. It was absolutely amazing. And we got the idea of ​​building an even bigger, says the witness.
So you did join when the nautilus was built?
- Yes, the witness says.
The witness calls PM the day Peter Madsen had bought the tube to Nautilus, which would later become the central part of the submarine.
"So you had some technical skills," said the lawyer.
- Well, it's also using arms and legs and getting some iron plates, says the witness, telling her that he was part of the work with Nautilus.
- Have you been out and sailing with Nautilus, asks the defense attorney.
- Yes, some. I think a 30 times, the witness says.
"Peter, of course, has been out a whole lot more," said the witness.
The witness tells him that he was on and off in the workshop.
"Was Peter a regular rider when you sailed?" Asks the defender.
- I do not want to say that. There was a relaxed atmosphere. We seldom sailed from land with a goal, says the witness.
- How often did you come to the workshop and Nautilus from the summer of last year, asks the defense attorney.
"We resumed the work on the submarine this spring, and there I was there every day in the workshop," said the witness, who last was at nautilus and the workshop approx. two weeks before it disappeared on 10 August.
Did you make some little things on Nautilus?
- Yes, I made a skirt in the engine room - that's a plate that had to cover a wheel on the engine. It was on Peter's initiative because we talked that it would be dangerous with that wheel because a belt or some clothes could cling, says the witness.
The witness says that he should also make a table top in the submarine.
"It was made of wood," said the witness, who thought he had finished all the work near a frame that was supposed to be on the table.
- What about some shelves. Did Peter talk about some shelves, asks the defender.
"Yes, I think Peter would like to make some shelves for life jackets or food and so on," the witness said.
"And what should they be made of, asks the defense attorney.
"No, but I think it would be marine veneer, that is, plywood," said the witness.
- Could you take a saw down to make shelves, asks the defense attorney.
- No, it would be easier to do it over at the submarine.
"But was the measurement off or would they fit?" Asks the defense attorney.
"I do not know exactly," said the witness.
"But I understood that you had not started with those shelves," asks the defense attorney.
"No, I did not," said the witness.
- Peter told you everything he would have done in the submarine, asks the defender.
- Far from, the witness says.
The witness also say that Peter Madsen got spontaneous ideas about what should be done in the submarine.
Peter Madsen follows the witness's explanation from his place next to his defense attorney. He is coming with inputs.
The defense attorney now asks about how to draw an area in the water that has been sought.
"The short answer is that you use tools that you can put in the seabed and span a" grid "in between, so you can mark where you have dived, the witness says.
The defender also asks if you would usually bring heavy things that could tarn a rope where to go diving.
The witness confirms.
- Especially in Denmark where the water is cloudy, the witness says.
The witness also says that he does not remember if Peter Madsen and him had talked about that they were just looking for an area in the water around the submarine.
Now, the defense is finished with the hearing of the witness, and prosecutor Jakob Buch-Jepsen takes over.
- You have told that you had done some woodwork on the submarine at Peter's request. Did you always do the woodwork on the submarine, asks the prosecutor.
"Well, there's very little woodwork on a submarine," the witness said.
- Was there any specific agreement about that you should come and make these shelves as we have spoken asking the prosecutor.
"No," said the witness.
- Have you ever used a fukssvans (saw) from the workshop?
"I've probably used it as an angle, and so I've used the workshop's round saw," said the witness.
The prosecutor now shows a picture of a very rusty saw with orange shaft found on the bottom of the Øresund.
Have you seen such one at the workshop?
"Yes, I think there was such an orange shaft," said the witness.
- Have you ever seen it on the submarine, asks the prosecutor.
"No," said the witness.
"And all the woodwork that you have made, you have done outside the submarine, asks the prosecutor.
- Yes, the witness says.
- When were you last in the submarine?
"I'll think it's been three to four weeks before all this happened," said the witness.
- Have you left any loose wood down there, asks the prosecutor.
"No, I think I've done everything outside the submarine, so I then took it afterwards to the submarine," the witness said.
- Do you have any explanation as to why Peter Madsen should have taken such a saw with him to the submarine on August 10, asks the prosecutor.
"No," said the witness.
The prosecutor now shows the over half-meter long screwdriver, which is part of the case.
- Do you know the tools of the workshop, ask the prosecutor.
"Yes, I have, but I have never seen such one in the workshop," the witness said.
- Could you use it as a soil spear, asks the prosecutor.
"Yes, that would be ideal for that," said the witness.
"And if you use it to that, ask the prosecutor, it would be necessary to cut it more pointy."
- No, I do not think so. It can easily be planted into the seabed, as it is, says the witness.
The prosecutor now shows a picture of the green water hose found in the submarine.
The witness can not say decisively whether it has always been in the submarine or not.
The prosecutor also displays images of pipe pieces and images of the straps found in the submarine.
"I have not seen the pipes, but there were a lot of straps. I have not seen them right there, says the witness.
The prosecutor now displays pictures from the submarine's canteen. Under the ankle height benches are some straps attached.
- Have you seen them there, asks the prosecutor.
- No, not in the canteen. I have seen them in the engine room, where they held some cans in place, says the witness.
- Have you ever seen the ladder in the submarine be detached?
- Yes, the witness says.
"And was it tightened in the canteen with the straps," the prosecutor asks.
"No, I do not remember," said the witness
The witness tells the court that there were often tools on board Nautilus. It was sometimes much and sometims less depending if you were mounting something in the submarine.
There could also be tools when they were out and sailing.
The prosecutor now documents that the witness to the police has said that it was not normal that there was a tool on the submarine.
- That's right, I've said that. There were often tools on board, but it was typical in case of mounting.
"Was it taken back when you were done?" Asks the defense attorney.
"I do not know," said the witness
"Are you familiar with Peter Madsen's third explanation in the case of under-pressure in the submarine, which meant that the hatches could not be opened, asks the prosecutor.
- Very little. But it makes sense that opening the hatches must be very difficult if there is oppression, says the witness.
"If there is vacuum in the submarine, I could imagine that you can not get it up," said the witness.
- What if you're in the submarine, the prosecutor asks.
"Then you can do that," said the witness.
- What if you are outside the submarine, asks the prosecutor.
"I can imagine that it would be completely impossible," said the witness.
Now the prosecutor has finished his interrogation and the defense has additional questions.
She will know if the witness is fully aware of Peter Madsen's latest explanation.
He is not, he says.
"And you're not so technologically educated that we can ask for valves and so," said the witness.
"Well, I should have a rich technical background, but I do not have that with Nautilus," said the witness.
The defense ends its hearing of the witness, and Jens Falkenberg therefore leaves the room.
It was the last witness of the day.
