Desiree says Terri had “Extreme hatred for Kyron"

[ami]

If I was Desiree, I would not be able to forgive Kaine for not letting her know that Terri was drinking, having problems, etc. Even if Kyron had not disappeared and I found this out, I don't think I could forigve, knowing that he had children, including mine, in a house with a woman with a drinking problem, mental/emotional issues, etc. Whether it is logical or not...with Terri's past history, any hint of alcohol abuse should have been cause for more than normal concern.

So is your take that Kaine is lying when he said he wasn't aware of the extent of Terri's problems?

 

[cluciano63]

So is your take that Kaine is lying when he said he wasn't aware of the extent of Terri's problems?

I think he is being econimical with the truth...he needs to be able to say she was drunk often for the divorce but wants also to be able to claim he did not see anything that resembled a possible danger. While I know he could not have forseen a disappearance, a drinking mother caring for kids who has had a problem in the past dealing with just this issue, to me is a danger. Of some kind. I think Desiree would have been angry to learn about this stuff he is saying about Terri at any point-not only because Kyron is missing, although that must make it worse.

 

[Trident]

I'm just guessing but my bet would be that KH knew that Oregon law gives great weight to stability and not disrupting a child's life with unnecessary changes in custody.

I'm guessing that he told DY that she could never win custody, DY spoke to a family law attorney and found out that KH was correct. And that it was highly unlikely that she could succeed in court, given what she knew about what was going on (which was apparently next to nothing; she lived six hours away).

What DY probably saw was the prospect of spending lots of money on evaluations and legal fees only to lose in court anyway. And that would also have strained whatever civility the two of them had left, perhaps beyond fixing.

I also wonder if KH ever considered getting a transfer to another Intel site that would have placed even more distance between DY and Kyron than there already was.

I get the feeling from watching DY's interviews that before Kyron disappeared, she felt like she was getting the best arrangement she could. That she was aware that she could lose a lot if she rocked the boat, so to speak.

Ever since the interviews fairly near the beginning where KH and DY gave very different versions of the end of their marriage, I've been wondering how long DY was going to continue to bite her tongue and cooperate with KH. It was clear there was a lot of unhappy history between the two of them.

ITA, but I need to ask why DY does not have custody of her older son - does anyone know?

 

[Aedrys]

The case is complicated, but that doesn't mean Kaine's desire to keep his child had to be complicated. As he's stated many times, he didn't know his home was unsafe. He didn't know. He does now, but he didn't then. He said that in direct response to people questioning why he remained in the marriage when clearly there were issues. He said the issues he saw were not the issues that have come to light since Kyron's abduction. Therefore he believed he was in a struggling marriage but otherwise normal home life in which he did not expect his children were endangered. Which makes him a pretty average parent, IMO.

I think it's similar with Desiree. Now, knowing all she knows and with Kyron missing, she says she wanted custody back and there were a lot of red flags, Terri calling her and saying Kyron should live with Desiree, or that Kyron was upset and needed her - but as far as we know, she never filed for a change in custody. IMO, that makes sense just like Kaine's lack of divorce makes sense - because in the moment, neither of them knew what they were really dealing with. I think most of us give Desiree a pass for that reason - because clearly she's grieving and had she known then what she knows now, obviously she'd have gone into whatever debt was necessary to legally yank Kyron out of that home... but she didn't. Like Kaine didn't divorce, like Kaine didn't consider giving up his child, like Desiree didn't press the issue... because they didn't know he was actually in danger.

I don't think it's unexpected now for both of them to be blaming themselves and perhaps even blaming each other, as well as Terri. Even married parents of children who are abducted or murdered usually divorce, because of the complicated guilt and grief. I think it's even more likely a divorced couple who had their share of resentments even before this time would go through similar stages of grief and blame.

My own issue as far as the emails go surround the people who knew that Terri "hated" Kyron - if that was an interpretation of the emails that anyone would have upon reading them. I wonder if they were sent to someone who had similar issues with step children that she felt comfortable complaining to?

The thanks button just wasn't enough for this post. Kaine did not know how bad things were. He obviously wanted to see the best in Terri because she took care of their children. And who knows how many times she lied to him about her problems or hid them from him. The assumption that he knew what was going on and didn't care just isn't fair at all. I don't think he would have let Terri mother two of his children if he really thought she had serious problems or was an alcoholic. The guilt he has faced since finding out that Terri was not who he thought she was is obvious by his skeletal frame, his emotional words, and the obvious anger he has towards her not only for what she did to his son, but for breaking his trust and heart.

This woman has shattered Kaine's life in more ways than one, and he may never be able to rebuild it or move on. I just can't fathom labeling Kaine as the bad guy and Terri as some controlled, trapped victim of Kaine. While Kaine is worrying about his son and the welfare of his daughter, Terri is only worrying about herself and not going to jail. She hasn't shown one iota of concern for Kyron or the people she's devastated. She doesn't care. It's all about protecting herself no matter what the cost is to anyone else. And that does make me wonder about the people she vented to, who obviously said nothing to Kaine or Desiree about Terri's true feelings. I'm guessing that's a big reason why they aren't supporting Terri anymore. I'm betting more and more of them are cooperating with the police now and are secretly hating Terri for dragging them into this and ruining their lives as well.

How many lives has this woman destroyed, yet no apologies to anyone, no remorse for anything she's said or done, no hint of concern whatsoever for Kyron, much less all of the people she betrayed, including venting friends and batphone friends. She hasn't even apologized to her greatest supporter thus far, Dede. I wonder if she's even apologized to her parents or J for what she is putting them through? Does she even care about their welfare at all? She even gave up on her own daughter to protect herself. She is showing what a black heart she has, but couldn't have hurt Kyron. And yet somehow, this is all Kaine's fault? I don't think so.

Terri is an adult with free will and too much time on her hands without Kaine around (especially before Kyron went missing). There's no telling what kind of life she hid from Kaine. I don't know why it's so hard to believe that she lied to him and hid a whole other life from him. She had ample time and resources to do so. Look at how hard she's hiding things now, not willing to give up an inch to LE or Kaine. Why is it impossible then to believe she that she didn't fight just as hard to keep a life away from Kaine before Kyron went missing? She obviously had ample time to not only have a second life, but also to hate Kyron and plot his demise. And Kaine obviously wasn't prowling her emails or talking to other people about her. No wonder he didn't know much of anything about his own wife.

Honestly, with Kaine, I see a man suffering every minute of every day, full of remorse and sadness for something he probably thinks he could have prevented, only if, something he'll be tormented with the rest of his life. With Terri, I see a woman constantly plotting and scheming on how to get out of this, choosing to suffer (yes, I said choosing as she could end this by talking to the police and she won't - that is her right, I know that, but it's also most definitely her choice too) instead of ending this chaos and letting everyone move on, mad at the world that she didn't get away with this and now her life is ruined. I just don't buy that Kaine is or was the problem here. Did he make mistakes? Yes. Don't we all make mistakes we wish we could go back and change? Let those perfect people who've never made a bad decision throw the first stone here.

So is Kaine to blame for happened to Kyron? Absolutely not. He did the best he could with what he knew, and apparently that wasn't much about his wife. He didn't have a crystal ball. He didn't know how bad she really was. Why is that so hard to believe? No, the only one who had extreme hatred for a child here is Terri. The only one who had the time and resources to plot a child's demise was Terri. The only one who would benefit if Kyron is not around is Terri (had she gotten away with it, would she be suffering? I don't think so. She'd have her dream life while Kaine was still tormented by the loss of Kyron). The only villain here is Terri.

 

[SurfieTX]

The thanks button just wasn't enough for this post. Kaine did not know how bad things were. He obviously wanted to see the best in Terri because she took care of their children. And who knows how many times she lied to him about her problems or hid them from him. The assumption that he knew what was going on and didn't care just isn't fair at all. I don't think he would have let Terri mother two of his children if he really thought she had serious problems or was an alcoholic. The guilt he has faced since finding out that Terri was not who he thought she was is obvious by his skeletal frame, his emotional words, and the obvious anger he has towards her not only for what she did to his son, but for breaking his trust and heart.

This woman has shattered Kaine's life in more ways than one, and he may never be able to rebuild it or move on. I just can't fathom labeling Kaine as the bad guy and Terri as some controlled, trapped victim of Kaine. While Kaine is worrying about his son and the welfare of his daughter, Terri is only worrying about herself and not going to jail. She hasn't shown one iota of concern for Kyron or the people she's devastated. She doesn't care. It's all about protecting herself no matter what the cost is to anyone else. And that does make me wonder about the people she vented to, who obviously said nothing to Kaine or Desiree about Terri's true feelings. I'm guessing that's a big reason why they aren't supporting Terri anymore. I'm betting more and more of them are cooperating with the police now and are secretly hating Terri for dragging them into this and ruining their lives as well.

How many lives has this woman destroyed, yet no apologies to anyone, no remorse for anything she's said or done, no hint of concern whatsoever for Kyron, much less all of the people she betrayed, including venting friends and batphone friends. She hasn't even apologized to her greatest supporter thus far, Dede. I wonder if she's even apologized to her parents or J for what she is putting them through? Does she even care about their welfare at all? She even gave up on her own daughter to protect herself. She is showing what a black heart she has, but couldn't have hurt Kyron. And yet somehow, this is all Kaine's fault? I don't think so.

Terri is an adult with free will and too much time on her hands without Kaine around (especially before Kyron went missing). There's no telling what kind of life she hid from Kaine. I don't know why it's so hard to believe that she lied to him and hid a whole other life from him. She had ample time and resources to do so. Look at how hard she's hiding things now, not willing to give up an inch to LE or Kaine. Why is it impossible then to believe she that she didn't fight just as hard to keep a life away from Kaine before Kyron went missing? She obviously had ample time to not only have a second life, but also to hate Kyron and plot his demise. And Kaine obviously wasn't prowling her emails or talking to other people about her. No wonder he didn't know much of anything about his own wife.

Honestly, with Kaine, I see a man suffering every minute of every day, full of remorse and sadness for something he probably thinks he could have prevented, only if, something he'll be tormented with the rest of his life. With Terri, I see a woman constantly plotting and scheming on how to get out of this, choosing to suffer (yes, I said choosing as she could end this by talking to the police and she won't - that is her right, I know that, but it's also most definitely her choice too) instead of ending this chaos and letting everyone move on, mad at the world that she didn't get away with this and now her life is ruined. I just don't buy that Kaine is or was the problem here. Did he make mistakes? Yes. Don't we all make mistakes we wish we could go back and change? Let those perfect people who've never made a bad decision throw the first stone here.

So is Kaine to blame for happened to Kyron? Absolutely not. He did the best he could with what he knew, and apparently that wasn't much about his wife. He didn't have a crystal ball. He didn't know how bad she really was. Why is that so hard to believe? No, the only one who had extreme hatred for a child here is Terri. The only one who had the time and resources to plot a child's demise was Terri. The only one who would benefit if Kyron is not around is Terri (had she gotten away with it, would she be suffering? I don't think so. She'd have her dream life while Kaine was still tormented by the loss of Kyron). The only villain here is Terri.

"HORMAN: Yes. It`s -- there`s a lot of things that we`ve found out or are finding out that were happening during the time that we were together that they`re just shocking. They are. And some of those behaviors, some of those events are, yes, things you don`t even see them coming.

No matter how hard you may look -- most normal people don`t go home every day and investigate their spouse. I don`t think many people have that approach when they go home. And I`m one of those people. To have that twist everything around -- yes, life is what we will call a new normal after the fact -- the fact of him going missing and then us finding out more about her."

~snip

HORMAN: Well, she kept it hidden. That`s the hard part. As I look back and see different things that seemed odd and out of place. I asked questions, I did press. I wish I would have maybe pressed a little bit harder. But in looking at the grander picture, it was all hidden.

And it was a gradual progression. I don`t think it was one week she was normal and then one week she was this raging alcoholic. I think it was a slow build-up over time. And when you -- you see someone, you see your spouse have a drink once a week, you don`t really ask any question. You see them have a drink twice a week, you probably don`t ask any questions.

When you don`t see them drink any more than that, you probably never ask any questions. But what`s happening behind the scenes, at least in this particular case, is we believe that it was just being hidden through various other forms, and because of the way we had our finances set up and some other things set up where we had things managed separately from each other, there was just not a lot of visibility into any information that would raise concern. "

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1011/22/ijvm.01.html

 

[Trident]

Even IF TH was a drunkard, does that make her guilty of murder? Are there any stats on this?

 

[Aedrys]

Even IF TH was a drunkard, does that make her guilty of murder? Are there any stats on this?

If TH was a drunkard, that doesn't exonerate her either. A lot of drunkards kill people while driving or beat people to death while drunk. I'm sure there are stats on that. And it's more than just her drinking that makes her guilty. The fact that she hid this drinking, for one. The fact that she had extreme hatred for Kyron. The fact that she had the time and resources to do this. The fact that she's destroyed her own life, cut off friends, cut off her own daughter, doesn't seem to care about anyone's welfare other than her own all to protect herself. The fact that she was the last adult to see Kyron. There's more here than just Terri being a drunk to make her guilty. Alcoholism is the least of the reasons she did what she did to Kyron.

 

[Trident]

If TH was a drunkard, that doesn't exonerate her either. A lot of drunkards kill people while driving or beat people to death while drunk. I'm sure there are stats on that. And it's more than just her drinking that makes her guilty. The fact that she hid this drinking, for one. The fact that she had extreme hatred for Kyron. The fact that she had the time and resources to do this. The fact that she's destroyed her own life, cut off friends, cut off her own daughter, doesn't seem to care about anyone's welfare other than her own all to protect herself. The fact that she was the last adult to see Kyron. There's more here than just Terri being a drunk to make her guilty. Alcoholism is the least of the reasons she did what she did to Kyron.

BBM - probelm is, "I" don't see her as proven "guilty". I also don't KNOW that she had extreme hatred for Kyron - I haven't read the emails.

I tend to think there's lots and lots of possibilities floating around here which weren't in the MSM.

 

[Jo in Calif]

BBM - probelm is, "I" don't see her as proven "guilty". I also don't KNOW that she had extreme hatred for Kyron - I haven't read the emails.

I tend to think there's lots and lots of possibilities floating around here which weren't in the MSM.

Personally, I am taking Desirees word for Terri having extreme hatred for Kyron, as she, did read those emails.. The more that comes out, to me points to Terri being proven guilty.

 

[Adrienne37]

BBM - probelm is, "I" don't see her as proven "guilty". I also don't KNOW that she had extreme hatred for Kyron - I haven't read the emails.

I tend to think there's lots and lots of possibilities floating around here which weren't in the MSM.

That's what usually happens when people come together to discuss a case that they are interested in and it's why you see most every post here stating IMO. My opinion entitles me to think and to post that Terri could have launched Kyron into outer space with aliens and he is living on Mars right about now. I don't need a mainstream media article to be entitled to my opinion and the same holds true for everyone here. ~JMO~

 

[Trident]

Personally, I am taking Desirees word for Terri having extreme hatred for Kyron, as she, did read those emails.. The more that comes out, to me points to Terri being proven guilty.

Personally, until the emails become public, I'm taking no one's word on whom they point to, or the amount and/or kind of hatred they so-called fall upon.

If anyone has read the works of Shalom Aleichem, author of Fiddler on The Roof, one (might) understand that frustration and love gives lie to the words spoken. It takes understanding of life, which I FEEL, hope not to get banned for this, today's generation is totally lacking. Previous generations, and many are still alive today, and understanding where they come from, do not adhere to the cult of the child as was prophised/warned againtst, in the Bible. To have any understanding of what really goes on, one needs (in my opinion) to have a firm grasp of history. Harsh words were NOT hatred, just frustration which I believe is alive and well today, but most aren't educateed enough to understand it, or brainwashed enough to have no knowledge of it whatsoever. But, this is just my opinion. I'm sure everyone who believes the chld shoud be venerated above all else is absolutely correct.

I know I'm stating this badly, but adults also have feelings and rights. The child is not the be all and end all of existence. Granted, Kyron is missing, but let's not forget there are many other people involved who also have feelings/wants/needs, and obsessions from their own upbringing.

Forgive the typos, this little laptop has NO finger room.

 

[scandi]

If TH was a drunkard, that doesn't exonerate her either. A lot of drunkards kill people while driving or beat people to death while drunk. I'm sure there are stats on that. And it's more than just her drinking that makes her guilty. The fact that she hid this drinking, for one. The fact that she had extreme hatred for Kyron. The fact that she had the time and resources to do this. The fact that she's destroyed her own life, cut off friends, cut off her own daughter, doesn't seem to care about anyone's welfare other than her own all to protect herself. The fact that she was the last adult to see Kyron. There's more here than just Terri being a drunk to make her guilty. Alcoholism is the least of the reasons she did what she did to Kyron.

Also, as an alcoholic progresses in their illness it does affect their brain and judgement which carries over into their thinking while sober. I had 2 husbands and several friends where I watched this progression. Poor judgement could cause her to be overly jealous of Kaine's affection for Kyron for instance.

And I agree with Cluciano that Kaine has been somewhat 'economical' with the truth. I'm not defending TH, but we are hearing only one half of the story. Some things we read right away about their activities together have been never spoken of by him. It could be they were not true, but he might have unfavorable things about himself as well.

 

[mmmagique]

Personally, until the emails become public, I'm taking no one's word on whom they point to, or the amount and/or kind of hatred they so-called fall upon.

If anyone has read the works of Shalom Aleichem, author of Fiddler on The Roof, one (might) understand that frustration and love gives lie to the words spoken. It takes understanding of life, which I FEEL, hope not to get banned for this, today's generation is totally lacking. Previous generations, and many are still alive today, and understanding where they come from, do not adhere to the cult of the child as was prophised/warned againtst, in the Bible. To have any understanding of what really goes on, one needs (in my opinion) to have a firm grasp of history. Harsh words were NOT hatred, just frustration which I believe is alive and well today, but most aren't educateed enough to understand it, or brainwashed enough to have no knowledge of it whatsoever. But, this is just my opinion. I'm sure everyone who believes the chld shoud be venerated above all else is absolutely correct.

I know I'm stating this badly, but adults also have feelings and rights. The child is not the be all and end all of existence. Granted, Kyron is missing, but let's not forget there are many other people involved who also have feelings/wants/needs, and obsessions from their own upbringing.

Forgive the typos, this little laptop has NO finger room.

It seems to me that our society not only does not venerate children, some are allowed to throw them away like so much trash. Go wander around in the "missing" forums. It is epidemic. It's bad when a stranger hurts a child. But all too often, it is a trusted (and loved) family member or friend.

It's pretty obvious Hasanni Campbell's foster "father" did so with him, and that guy's still out walking free.

Has Zahra's father been arrested for his part in her murder?

And little Kyron...gone without a trace. His stepmother with so many hinky utterances and deeds. Taken by themselves they are odd indeed. Taken altogether with what happened that day and her obstinate silence, they point to something much more sinister.

Trusting, innocent children. Little souls who needed adults in their lives to protect them and nurture them.

Let their attorneys speak for the adults. I speak for the children. (or try to anyway)

I believe Desiree and Kaine speak for their son as well. I think from the little they did say, those letters were "unusual" in the extreme.

 

[Trident]

It seems to me that our society not only does not venerate children, some are allowed to throw them away like so much trash. Go wander around in the "missing" forums. It is epidemic. It's bad when a stranger hurts a child. But all too often, it is a trusted (and loved) family member or friend.

It's pretty obvious Hasanni Campbell's foster "father" did so with him, and that guy's still out walking free.

Has Zahra's father been arrested for his part in her murder?

And little Kyron...gone without a trace. His stepmother with so many hinky utterances and deeds. Taken by themselves they are odd indeed. Taken altogether with what happened that day and her obstinate silence, they point to something much more sinister.

Trusting, innocent children. Little souls who needed adults in their lives to protect them and nurture them.

Let their attorneys speak for the adults. I speak for the children. (or try to anyway)

I believe Desiree and Kaine speak for their son as well. I think from the little they did say, those letters were "unusual" in the extreme.

The POINT I was making is that parents have sometimes said and did things we take amiss, 'cause we are without understanding of where they come from. All of my kids, which I raised, have survived even though I said some "not so nice stuff" to them and others. Many mothers spoke the same way, but that didn't mean we would murder our children or not lay our lives down for them. I think most mothers have said many things that would be taken wrongly, without understanding, on this board. Maybe the nay sayers, without a bunch of kids, simply don't understand the day-to-day frustrations a lot of us go through. It's real easy to be "perfect" parent, like my mother who bailed out real early, than it is to slog through the day to day laundry, meals, school programs, fights, dirt, homework, etc., that real life throws at you. It's so easy to "say and tell" what should be done, when you ain't in them shoes. I've raised 6 kids and I've said a lot of "stuff" that wouldn't look good in a murder case, but mine are all alive and doing well.

 

[ami]

The POINT I was making is that parents have sometimes said and did things we take amiss, 'cause we are without understanding of where they come from. All of my kids, which I raised, have survived even though I said some "not so nice stuff" to them and others. Many mothers spoke the same way, but that didn't mean we would murder our children or not lay our lives down for them. I think most mothers have said many things that would be taken wrongly, without understanding, on this board. Maybe the nay sayers, without a bunch of kids, simply don't understand the day-to-day frustrations a lot of us go through. It's real easy to be "perfect" parent, like my mother who bailed out real early, than it is to slog through the day to day laundry, meals, school programs, fights, dirt, homework, etc., that real life throws at you. It's so easy to "say and tell" what should be done, when you ain't in them shoes. I've raised 6 kids and I've said a lot of "stuff" that wouldn't look good in a murder case, but mine are all alive and doing well.

If the only evidence linking Terri to Kyron's disappearance were emails that spoke poorly of him, it wouldn't be overly suspicious. Agreed.

Since the emails are (in DY and KH's minds at least, and likely LE's) only one link in a chain of evidence, I can see why they have indicated they believe the emails are important.

 

[stmarysmead]

The POINT I was making is that parents have sometimes said and did things we take amiss, 'cause we are without understanding of where they come from. All of my kids, which I raised, have survived even though I said some "not so nice stuff" to them and others. Many mothers spoke the same way, but that didn't mean we would murder our children or not lay our lives down for them. I think most mothers have said many things that would be taken wrongly, without understanding, on this board. Maybe the nay sayers, without a bunch of kids, simply don't understand the day-to-day frustrations a lot of us go through. It's real easy to be "perfect" parent, like my mother who bailed out real early, than it is to slog through the day to day laundry, meals, school programs, fights, dirt, homework, etc., that real life throws at you. It's so easy to "say and tell" what should be done, when you ain't in them shoes. I've raised 6 kids and I've said a lot of "stuff" that wouldn't look good in a murder case, but mine are all alive and doing well.

Once again, I believe the professionals investigating this case would not find normal venting significant enough to relay to Kyron's parents. There is a reason these emails were disclosed. There is a reason the grieving Mother said they showed "extreme hatred." And there is a reason that Terri's desire "to hurt" a little child who loved her...had investigative value. I trust LE's ability to tell the difference.

Essentially, we must believe LE does not have the experience to tell the difference between the ugly, venomous rantings of a woman filled with hate for a 7 year old...and harmless words.

And once again, Terri's words are piling up. The Murder For Hire, the Sexting, the Hateful emails.

...all innocent????

...just a woman misunderstood???

How many times is she to be excused...given a free pass? This is a three- times-married forty year old woman! IMO, these things pile up...start to create a most troubling depiction of a woman..Teri Horman..totally out of control...and definitely displaying despicable behaviors over and over again.

 

[Jo in Calif]

If the only evidence linking Terri to Kyron's disappearance were emails that spoke poorly of him, it wouldn't be overly suspicious. Agreed.

Since the emails are (in DY and KH's minds at least, and likely LE's) only one link in a chain of evidence, I can see why they have indicated they believe the emails are important.

Well said Ami.
Because we discuss each thing that comes out, if this was the only thing that has come out, it would be understandable, that Terri may of only been venting about Kyron.
But link all the things together, that have come out, it does start to paint a picture.
The beginning of this case, with the amount of LE agencies that were involved, I can't believe they didn't follow every lead that came in and looked into every possible thing that could have happened to Kyron.

 

[cluciano63]

I have never seen anyone on this board give Terri a "free pass" about anything, just some posters questioning various pieces of information.

 

[gitana1]

Personally, until the emails become public, I'm taking no one's word on whom they point to, or the amount and/or kind of hatred they so-called fall upon.

If anyone has read the works of Shalom Aleichem, author of Fiddler on The Roof, one (might) understand that frustration and love gives lie to the words spoken. It takes understanding of life, which I FEEL, hope not to get banned for this, today's generation is totally lacking. Previous generations, and many are still alive today, and understanding where they come from, do not adhere to the cult of the child as was prophised/warned againtst, in the Bible. To have any understanding of what really goes on, one needs (in my opinion) to have a firm grasp of history. Harsh words were NOT hatred, just frustration which I believe is alive and well today, but most aren't educateed enough to understand it, or brainwashed enough to have no knowledge of it whatsoever. But, this is just my opinion. I'm sure everyone who believes the chld shoud be venerated above all else is absolutely correct.

I know I'm stating this badly, but adults also have feelings and rights. The child is not the be all and end all of existence. Granted, Kyron is missing, but let's not forget there are many other people involved who also have feelings/wants/needs, and obsessions from their own upbringing.

Forgive the typos, this little laptop has NO finger room.

I think I understand what you're trying to say but I'm a bit confused so maybe not. Children cannot care for themselves. They cannot feed or clothe themselves. They lack the brain function to make decisions that protect their safety and welfare. They do naughty things at times but their sense of wonder and lack of experience make them innocent. That's why being a child equates to lack of capacity in many jurisdictions with regard to criminal cases.
Therefore, expressing hatred towards a child, especially one who has been entrusted to your care, is much worse than expressing hatred to another adult, IMO.
In addition, it's the circumstances that make this possible fact stand out. A child is missing. He was last in the care of his step-mother. The same person who refused to fight for the right to see her own baby, in the fear of incriminating herself. The same person who apparently expressed some negativity towards the missing child. This has nothing to do with the "cult of the child". IMO, it has everything to do with a vulnerable, helpless child, and common sense.

 

[miabellamoure]

I have never seen anyone on this board give Terri a "free pass" about anything, just some posters questioning various pieces of information.

Actually...I'd love to give her a free "one-way" pass to the clinker...but, that's just me & my humble opinion!

Or a free coupon for a dose of truth serum at any FM's of her choice...:dance: