*DEVELOPING*CO Shooting at Movie Theater #2

[shadowraiths]

I am pretty sure I saw a photo today of LE removing a laptop from the apartment. Sorry, I've looked at so many different stories today I wouldn't know where to begin to find a link.

I saw a photo of an officer carrying out a laptop in an article with a series of photos posted yesterday.

News Times​

 

[February]

There are not always "lone wolves." There were two shooters in Columbine. But police assured us that JH acted alone.
Since we are not privy to all the info police has, I am sure they know better.

Was the Korean guy already interviewed? It seems like the big news site are not covering that YPL , i saw couple mention at Twitter with his FB on it , and they say that some sources are saying somebody call or texted using JH's phone and is threatening some violence if JH will not be released . Sources said it was traced to YPL's router and i am thinking that they are using the app called Viber to send the text via Internet.

 

[SmoothOperator]

We know thats the way it is now smooth operator, but doesn't mean it has to remain that way.



There was no central registry, depository, or linkage system in place to report or compile any of this. Well actually there are parts and pieces of one with many noticeable deficiencies. Anyone could report suspicions to the FBI or homeland security and leave it up to them. The gun side has rules and regulations administered by lawmakers and individual people who had some suspicions. There were enough hints that someone different in the same situation may have gone a little further into checking on him, reporting on him, and may have triggered some investigation. The signs were there as said, people were suspicious as noted by the university profs statement, he first thought of Holmes.

We evolve as a country through experience. Maybe we can't deal with this sort of thing yet but maybe we can learn from it all how to for next time. Laws can change, investgative bodies can learn, computer systems can be modified to better collect, catch and collate information. (if we know what we are looking for)

In this case there were some pretty high powered eyes on him. He was in the middle of a high level psych class, his professors supposedly some of the best in the business. His grades plumetting, from top of the heap to dropping out in a very short period of time. His courses included studies on abberrant behaviour.

The mentorship program is an explorable and demonstrable connection. Very early a mentor is noted in his first temporal illusion discussion. Will have to go back for the link but it is in a video showing the cover of a mentorship.

Just saying, this isn't just any class where this sort of thing can be brushed under the rug so easily. The thing they are trained for and are in training for to catch sits right in front of them. Mentorship is a close up right in your mind experience.

Yes and thank you for once again just reinforcing my point.. As you say above the signs and suspicions WERE THERE.. Yet no one person or group knew ALL OF THE SIGNS THAT WERE GOING ON..

No registry or depository will fix that particular issue.. Yes better linkage and registries concerning purchase of artillery/ammo should be better implemented(especially when bought in such a small amount of time).. That IMO if in place could have intervened.. Especially when he began purchasing products for explosives.. But I stand firm that no one person or group is privy to all of the signs.. Yes that is the case here and that specific issue is not easily remedied with tighter registries, depositories, or linkages..jmo.


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[Bravo]

Sounds like we're coming from the same place, literally, as I'm in SD too.

You sound like a very nice person. It's a struggle. I try to keep tabs on my thoughts because it's so easy to fall into depression these days. I managed to successfully quit antidepressants because I felt that swung me into bi-polar. I've been off meds for over ten years now. As I said, it's a struggle. Just remember, you're not alone.

Good for you. I never understood the depth of Depression until i hit it with menopause. I was in my early 30's when it hit. Who da thunk? Not me at that age. It was a learning curve and it gave me a new found respect for Depression and learning it differs from those who are not just suffering a bad day or week.Your not alone and you are amazing.

 

[February]

Did anyone mention already any video/security camera for the Century 16 theatre? Seems like JH knows exactly where to park his car on that theatre 9

 

[manzana]

I am kinda surprised at his use of hotmail. I remember one of my very first emails was a hotmail. I have not used hotmail for ten years..


I doubt that they will uncover much on his laptop/computers.

With all the planning and intelligence used, he would be an idiot to leave a den of info on those. But lets hope that he did slip up.

 

[jjenny]

I am kinda surprised at his use of hotmail. I remember one of my very first emails was a hotmail. I have not used hotmail for ten years..


I doubt that they will uncover much on his laptop/computers.

With all the planning and intelligence used, he would be an idiot to leave a den of info on those. But lets hope that he did slip up.

Since he likely expected the house to blow up, and it didn't, there could be very well lots of information.

 

[scorekeeper]

Shadowraiths,

Thanks for the picture.....not only is the laptop in the picture but the tower for the desktop!!
And thanks to everyone else that responded!!

I'm sure LE will learn a lot from his computer systems.....

Score

 

[February]

I am kinda surprised at his use of hotmail. I remember one of my very first emails was a hotmail. I have not used hotmail for ten years..


I doubt that they will uncover much on his laptop/computers.

With all the planning and intelligence used, he would be an idiot to leave a den of info on those. But lets hope that he did slip up.

i am thinking that he has multiple emails
we are not hearing about her younger sister ( i think she's 19 years old based on one san diego resident talking about how they met JH and that they went freshman together with his sister and their age is now 19 years old )
and i think his sister knows him more than anyone else.

 

[manzana]

Since he likely expected the house to blow up, and it didn't, there could be very well lots of information.

I thought of what you posted when typing out my post BUT I believe he was smart enough to know that that may not happen especially when giving the police a heads up.

 

[IzzyBlanche]

Here's another pic I found:

http://www.marketwatch.com/story/ob...ctims-families-2012-07-22?link=MW_latest_news

 

[Nova]

Is Tenure not granted after the PHD? And no guarantee of when? Confused here on the Tenure. Confused how it works in your Education System.

There are exceptions, but, no. Earning your Ph.D. may make you eligible for a "tenure-track" position (as opposed to an "Instructor" or "Adjunct" position), but tenure isn't usually decided until a teacher has been working for years, sometimes as many as seven years. At that point, if you don't get tenure, it is often assumed you will move on.

But there are lots of exceptions for "superstars" (who publish really influential books, say, or who do lucrative research in the sciences) and may be offered tenure early to keep them from leaving for a better offer.

Yale, the last I heard, had a policy of not offering tenure to its own instructors. The thinking was that teaching at Yale got you tenure somewhere else, while Yale only hired professors who were already tenured at their own universities.

 

[scorekeeper]

I am kinda surprised at his use of hotmail. I remember one of my very first emails was a hotmail. I have not used hotmail for ten years..


I doubt that they will uncover much on his laptop/computers.

With all the planning and intelligence used, he would be an idiot to leave a den of info on those. But lets hope that he did slip up.

BBM
Oh, I have a lot of faith in the FBI, even if he thought he deleted everything!! I think he was hoping his apartment building would be blown to pieces....

 

[jjenny]

There are exceptions, but, no. Earning your Ph.D. may make you eligible for a "tenure-track" position (as opposed to an "Instructor" or "Adjunct" position), but tenure isn't usually decided until a teacher has been working for years, sometimes as many as seven years. At that point, if you don't get tenure, it is often assumed you will move on.

But there are lots of exceptions for "superstars" (who publish really influential books, say, or who do lucrative research in the sciences) and may be offered tenure early to keep them from leaving for a better offer.

Yale, the last I heard, had a policy of not offering tenure to its own instructors. The thinking was that teaching at Yale got you tenure somewhere else, while Yale only hired professors who were already tenured at their own universities.

Basically, JH was years and years away from being worried about tenure. First, he had to get a PhD, then be a post doc, then find tenure track position, then spend years in that position, then worry about tenure. We are probably talking about 15 years all together.

 

[Bravo]

I am kinda surprised at his use of hotmail. I remember one of my very first emails was a hotmail. I have not used hotmail for ten years..


I doubt that they will uncover much on his laptop/computers.

With all the planning and intelligence used, he would be an idiot to leave a den of info on those. But lets hope that he did slip up.

If the hard drive is there he is SOOL. He is smart enough to know that. He didn't bank on it not being blown up. Then again i do feel he had a personal manifesto. He is too detail oriented not to. Whether he cared if the world knew???? Part of me feels it was important to him at some point. Yet maybe part of the riddle? :moo:

 

[Nova]

Maybe it just wasn't a good fit or there were more qualified candidates?

There's a highly personal element to grad school admission. Often it comes down to whether a candidate's interests coincide with a faculty member's needs or specialty. Being turned down isn't necessarily a reflection of the applicant's record.

(In my own case, I got into the the most prestigious and competitive program to which I applied (i.e., my "first" choice), but was turned down by two less prestigious programs (my presumably "safe schools"). In one case, the school had a policy against admitting students in their 30s; in the other case, who knows?)

 

[scorekeeper]

I thought of what you posted when typing out my post BUT I believe he was smart enough to know that that may not happen especially when giving the police a heads up.

Or perhaps he was in taunting the police...thinking they responded to a loud music call and tripped the wire?????

 

[jjenny]

Or perhaps he was in taunting the police...thinking they responded to a loud music call and tripped the wire?????

Maybe he was surprised at how quickly they responded since they should have been tied down at the apartment and told them something like that?

 

[panthera]

I am kinda surprised at his use of hotmail. I remember one of my very first emails was a hotmail. I have not used hotmail for ten years..


I doubt that they will uncover much on his laptop/computers.

With all the planning and intelligence used, he would be an idiot to leave a den of info on those. But lets hope that he did slip up.

He could have several e-mail addresses for all we know. I have two thoughts on the computers - either he erased everything (as kind of a "joke" on LE that after all the painstaking work in dismantling his booby trap there is nothing to be found), or he has some type of manifesto on it citing everything he perceives wrong with the world (which in his mind could lend credibility to an expected insanity defense). LE has my sympathy going through those computers however since he may also have a ton of academic related material on them.

MOO

 

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