Did You Know That Patsy Spelled Advise Wrong In The Sample RN?

[DeeDee249]

She could have confessed to a priest who is not allowed to speak out about confessions they hear

Confession (the Sacrament of Penance) is for Roman Catholics. Patsy wasn't Catholic. I believe she was Protestant, and I thought they were Episcopalian. While they do call their clergy "priests" (rather than minister) there is no confession in the way that you refer to. My daughter, raised a Roman Catholic, converted when she married an Episcopalian. While both are Christian faiths, there are some basic differences in the faiths, as there are with all the Protestant faiths. So now, she no longer goes to Confession, although to hear her tell it, she never does anything wrong.

 

[Egoslayer]

Confession (the Sacrament of Penance) is for Roman Catholics. Patsy wasn't Catholic. I believe she was Protestant, and I thought they were Episcopalian. While they do call their clergy "priests" (rather than minister) there is no confession in the way that you refer to. My daughter, raised a Roman Catholic, converted when she married an Episcopalian. While both are Christian faiths, there are some basic differences in the faiths, as there are with all the Protestant faiths. So now, she no longer goes to Confession, although to hear her tell it, she never does anything wrong.

Oh .. the movie got me confused. Looked very catholic to me. Thank you for the clarification!

 

[weasel]

Just what would you consider a genuine source?



http://www.cyc-net.org/today2001/today011224.html

A genuine source for me would if the BPD or DA had conducted this study and this was proven to be 100% accurate. Or better yet, the whole story.

 

[BBB167893]

A genuine source for me would if the BPD or DA had conducted this study and this was proven to be 100% accurate.

Considering that Sirotnak was there Day One, I don't see how much more official it could get.

Or better yet, the whole story.

What's that supposed to mean?

 

[weasel]

<<What's that supposed to mean?>>

What it means is I would like to see this entire report, including JB's medical records, before I would point to one part of a report and say "see, there's absolute proof" that one of her parents molested her.

 

[BBB167893]

<<What's that supposed to mean?>>

What it means is I would like to see this entire report, including JB's medical records, before I would point to one part of a report and say "see, there's absolute proof" that one of her parents molested her.

I get you. But for the record, I never said it had to be one of her parents that did it.

 

[arielilane]

No, I did not know PR spelled advise wrong in the sample ransom note.
She thought she was being clever. We know better.

 

[Ames]

No, I did not know PR spelled advise wrong in the sample ransom note.
She thought she was being clever. We know better.

I know! LOL

She was a journalism major and she misspelled advise...which is actually a 4th grade spelling word. I know that its actually on a fourth grade level, because I looked it up.

 

[RTC]

Yes I do think she spelled it wrong on purpose. Many years ago on this forum there were writing samples of JR. he had problems spelling words with double s's. I think Candy Rose has a sample where he spells business incorrectly. So I think the words business and possession were spelled wrong on purpose too.

 

[DeeDee249]

Yes I do think she spelled it wrong on purpose. Many years ago on this forum there were writing samples of JR. he had problems spelling words with double s's. I think Candy Rose has a sample where he spells business incorrectly. So I think the words business and possession were spelled wrong on purpose too.

Interesting- I had not seen anything about JR misspelling business. And if he dictated the note to Patsy, there is the explanation for the misspelled words.

 

[RTC]

In all respect Deedee, I dont think JR dicated and spelled out words for PR. She was the journalism major and writer in the family. I think she misspelled these words as subtle clues for JR. This is why the RN is so long. She has a secret explantion within the RN for JR.

 

[DeeDee249]

In all respect Deedee, I dont think JR dicated and spelled out words for PR. She was the journalism major and writer in the family. I think she misspelled these words as subtle clues for JR. This is why the RN is so long. She has a secret explantion within the RN for JR.

I look at the note as more of a collaboration. I see PR as writing it physically, but not the sole author. I think that by the time it was written, both parents knew what happened.

 

[RTC]

It is hard for me to imagine that a man would allow the RN to be so long. The Listen carefully is why I think alot of folks think it was a collaboration, like it was being dictated. Maybe the Listen is the first clue within the RN.
wierd that the practice note was first addressed to both and then finally just to JR.
What I dont get on the IDI theories is that if the killer didnt bring the RN and penned it from the materials in the house why cant they believe the cord and tape came from the inside the house? and if the killer brought the cord and tape why are their PR coat fibers found in both items?

 

[MurriFlower]

What I dont get on the IDI theories is that if the killer didnt bring the RN and penned it from the materials in the house why cant they believe the cord and tape came from the inside the house?

The notepad and pen were from the house, but remember there were other 'practice' notes (they could read the imprints) that weren't anywhere in the house. This could be because (IDI theory) these items were taken 'home' by the IDI and the RN written there. Alternatively the IDI wrote the note in the house that afternoon and tore all but one (beginning Mr and Mrs R) out and pocketed them.

What I'd actually be interested to hear is the RDI theory as to where these missing pages went? Did BR also take them with the cord and tape when he went to the Whites?

Here's the quote from ACR:

""But the next group of pages, 17 through 25, were also missing from the tablet. The following page, 26, was the practice ransom note (Mr. and Mrs. I), and that page showed evidence of ink bleedthrough from the missing page 25."

"Comparisons of the ragged tops of the ransom note pages with the remnants left in the tablet proved that it had come from pages 27, 28, and 29."

"Furthermore, the ink bleedthrough discovered on page 26 indicated that perhaps still another practice note could have been writtenon page 25 and been discarded. Two possible practice notes and one real one covering three pages led me to believe that the killer had spend more time in the house composing the ransom note than we originally thought."

"But even more significant, it seemed clear that whoever wrote it was unafraid of being caught in the house. We never found the missing pages.""

and if the killer brought the cord and tape why are their PR coat fibers found in both items?

I get tired of saying this, but I understand it's hard to keep up with every thread, so - there were only four (4) red fibers consistent with the material of PR's jacket found on the tape. The alleged fibers tied into the garrotte have not been proved, and in fact the only fibers we have any evidence of having been tied in the garrotte were brown cotton (perhaps from the IDI's gloves).

Here's the quote (Wolf -v- Ramsey) :

"Brown cotton fibers on JonBenet's body, the paintbrush, the duct
tape and on the ligature were not sourced and do not match anything in the Ramsey home.
(SMF 181; PSMF 181. )"

 

[my_tee_mouse]

I look at the note as more of a collaboration. I see PR as writing it physically, but not the sole author. I think that by the time it was written, both parents knew what happened.

And both relied on whodunnits and dime store novels a bit too much to make it believable.

 

[MurriFlower]

And both relied on whodunnits and dime store novels a bit too much to make it believable.

I see this 'dime store novel' as more likely to be and IDI. The R's were afterall, fairly well educated and JR's reading was more serious. PR might have read thrillers, but remember, (as we are constantly reminded by RDI) she had a degree in journalism, so dime store novel would hardly be her choice of reading material.

 

[dizzychick]

I heard a story way back when this case was new. A friend of mine lived in Littleton at the time and went to the same beauty shop as the cop that was first on the scene of the crime. She speculated and I gather it was the LE's opinion that Patsy came in to the room and found the husband with the child and swung to hit him, missed and hit Jon Benet. A fight ensued and they both decided to cover for each other . I guess they speculated the father was a child molester and the mother struck the fatal blow,by accident. Who knows what the truth was, we will never know but that cop felt they were responsible.

I had forgotten about this case till I saw that idiot John mark karr.

 

[BBB167893]

And both relied on whodunnits and dime store novels a bit too much to make it believable.

I know what you mean.

 

[BBB167893]

I heard a story way back when this case was new. A friend of mine lived in Littleton at the time and went to the same beauty shop as the cop that was first on the scene of the crime. She speculated and I gather it was the LE's opinion that Patsy came in to the room and found the husband with the child and swung to hit him, missed and hit Jon Benet. A fight ensued and they both decided to cover for each other . I guess they speculated the father was a child molester and the mother struck the fatal blow,by accident. Who knows what the truth was, we will never know but that cop felt they were responsible.

That is a popular theory. Perhaps with good reason.

 

[AbbieNormal]

Patsy probably took a %$#*load of zanax to get her through and as they started kicking in, she got bolder. She wrote the note with all of its TRANSPARENCY.

But as someone suggested on Topix, Patsy did not apologize to anyone before she died and in order to be forgiven, totally forgiven, one must be honest in their repentence. So since Patsy lived her life lying about "someone being out there", she needed to apologize to all of those people that she and John may have suggested were involved. They could start with Merrick.

Having NOT done that, Patsy I am afraid is not forgiven. Those are the rules. I did not make them up. :blowkiss:

LOL solace, I take XANAX occasionally (you spelled it wrong, what have you been smokin'?) and it does not affect my spelling. I have long believed that Patsy was the guilty party. Just gut feeling. I want to know- why????

I kind of expected Patsy to confess before she died. The fact that she did it (to me) is based on many little details that point to her being the guilty party. She was for sure medicated when she did the initial interviews. Shoo-we, was she messed up. Of course all mothers in America felt for her when she appeared and tried to keep her eyes open and speak to the press. Losing a child is any mothers nightmare. JMO. I felt bad for her too until I started reading about the case and the evidence. Wonder if John suspected or ever asked her. How can you live with a spouse/ spousal equivalent and not be *absolutely sure* they had nothing to do with a crime where your child is dead????

Maybe she confessed to John, or to God in private, or to a clergy, or in her heart asked for forgiveness. They say all you have to do is ask for forgiveness and mean it in your heart and you are forgiven. And eligible for heaven, too, I suppose. I have a different view. Wonder if that counts to get into heaven?

abbie