Discuss Max's death here - Thread #1.

[SophieRose]

This is such a good point I wanted to bump it, and think about it some more. It is true that if Rebecca was believed to be culpable somehow Max's death, from either her inadequate supervision of him or by some more direct method, a motive for her murder suddenly comes crystal clear, whereas if Max's death was simply a tragic accident, with nobody to blame, then who would want Rebecca dead?

Interesting, indeed.

It also should become more clear why she would commit suicide.

 

[CDS22]

It also should become more clear why she would commit suicide.

Indeed, if she feared jail or the loss of the multi-million dollar lifestyle she'd become accustomed to. Because according to her sister, she didn't feel badly at all about MS's death. She was able to shop and have dinner and thought it was just an "accident".

 

[CalElliot]

The picture of the chandelier is not recent, it was taken years ago.

It was already back up when LE were there with search warrant.

 

[jjenny]

Jail? Nonsense. Police believed it to be nothing more than an accident. After investigating it, they still declared it a tragic accident. Nobody was going to go to jail for it.

 

[SophieRose]

It was already back up when LE were there with search warrant.

MS autopsy report states it was on the floor.

 

[deanna82437]

MS autopsy report states it was on the floor.

The autopsy states it (the chandelier) was on the floor next to MS on 7/11 the day of his accident. IIRC the search warrants were not issued until following RZ's event. Anyone know?

 

[SunnieRN]

Police never said the clothes belong to the sister, only that they determined the clothes didn't belong to RN, but to a female guest who stayed in the guest house earlier. The article is speculating that they could have belonged to the sister because she stayed with RN earlier, but it's a complete speculation and frankly why would RN put her teenage sister in the guest house when the mansion had guest rooms? Also why did they put the brother into messy guest house with clothing on the floor from some earlier guest?

"We determined that that clothing was not from Rebecca," Lt. Nesbit said. "The clothing was left by a female guest who stayed in the guest house earlier, prior to the (hanging) incident."
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/15466715/questions-linger-in-coronado-mansion-hanging-death

Thank you for clarifying that it did not say it was XZ. I had a feeling that if it HAD, that would have been headline news!!:seeya:

 

[Brit]

Thank you for clarifying that it did not say it was XZ. I had a feeling that if it HAD, that would have been headline news!!:seeya:

This is interesting. I remember when this first happened reading somewhere that ds was staying at the house for some reason??? Am I remembering correctly? Does anyone else remember reading this? I dont have time to look up the links so I apologize if I am incorrect.

 

[SophieRose]

Police never said the clothes belong to the sister, only that they determined the clothes didn't belong to RN, but to a female guest who stayed in the guest house earlier. The article is speculating that they could have belonged to the sister because she stayed with RN earlier, but it's a complete speculation and frankly why would RN put her teenage sister in the guest house when the mansion had guest rooms? Also why did they put the brother into messy guest house with clothing on the floor from some earlier guest?

"We determined that that clothing was not from Rebecca," Lt. Nesbit said. "The clothing was left by a female guest who stayed in the guest house earlier, prior to the (hanging) incident."
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/15466715/questions-linger-in-coronado-mansion-hanging-death

The dog guy said there were two women at the house when he came to talk about boarding the dog. Most of us could not figure out who the second woman was and thought it might have mistook XZ as a woman. Perhaps RN had another friend stay over the first night and she left her things planning to return another day.
IMO

 

[deanna82437]

The dog guy said there were two women at the house when he came to talk about boarding the dog. Most of us could not figure out who the second woman was and thought it might have mistook XZ as a woman. Perhaps RN had another friend stay over the first night and she left her things planning to return another day.
IMO

That has been a question that has been brought up some time ago. No one has come up with an answer that I'm aware of. Seems old theories/news just keep getting repeated.

This is OT however. Thread is about MS's death.

 

[CDS22]

Police never said the clothes belong to the sister, only that they determined the clothes didn't belong to RN, but to a female guest who stayed in the guest house earlier. The article is speculating that they could have belonged to the sister because she stayed with RN earlier, but it's a complete speculation and frankly why would RN put her teenage sister in the guest house when the mansion had guest rooms? Also why did they put the brother into messy guest house with clothing on the floor from some earlier guest?

"We determined that that clothing was not from Rebecca," Lt. Nesbit said. "The clothing was left by a female guest who stayed in the guest house earlier, prior to the (hanging) incident."
http://www.760kfmb.com/story/15466715/questions-linger-in-coronado-mansion-hanging-death

She stayed in the second bedroom, not the same bedroom AS stayed in.

 

[jjenny]

She stayed in the second bedroom, not the same bedroom AS stayed in.

Who stayed in the second bedroom?

 

[CDS22]

The dog guy said there were two women at the house when he came to talk about boarding the dog. Most of us could not figure out who the second woman was and thought it might have mistook XZ as a woman. Perhaps RN had another friend stay over the first night and she left her things planning to return another day.
IMO

If XZ was wearing a lot of make up, she might have looked older than 13.

 

[CDS22]

Who stayed in the second bedroom?

Whoever the female guest was.

 

[jjenny]

Whoever the female guest was.

And how do you know female guest stayed in the second bedroom? As I recall the report only described one unmade bed.

 

[CDS22]

And how do you know female guest stayed in the second bedroom? As I recall the report only described one unmade bed.

Ac

cording to Zahau's autopsy report, "The guest house consisted of two bedrooms. One of the rooms had a suitcase and the other room had an unmade bed, a few pieces of women's clothing on the floor, make up wipes on the dresser and a glass with clear liquid on the night stand."

From the article you posted.

 

[CDS22]

Jail? Nonsense. Police believed it to be nothing more than an accident. After investigating it, they still declared it a tragic accident. Nobody was going to go to jail for it.

If someone was alive to question, that might have changed. Also, RZ did not know what the outcome would be.

IMO

 

[deanna82437]

Whoever the female guest was.

Do you have a link as to who that guest was?

 

[jjenny]

Ac

From the article you posted.

And? Only the room with the clothing had an unmade bed.

 

[CDS22]

This picture, originally posted by SDSD here:
http://www.sdsheriff.net/coronado/images/ms02.jpg

Clearly shows that the chandelier hangs much lower than the second floor landing. If Max went off the stairway anywhere above the third or fourth stair down from the second floor, it shouldn't be that hard for an athletic child who loved to play soccer to land on that chandelier. It is LARGE and takes up a good deal of the space in the U of the stairwell where Max fell. We are not talking about the puny light fixtures in my house, this thing is BIG and hangs much lower than perhaps is being taken into account. If he went off anywhere near where LE says he did (and if we are not going to believe that, why accept a single thing they said about either death???) I have no trouble seeing how he could have impacted with the chandelier and if the scooter was involved, it is even easier to see, in my very humble opinion.

That picture makes it harder for me to understand how he could have landed on his face, but have injuries on his back, and bring the chandelier down. He was a little 6 year old boy, not a gymnast.