Discussion: Is TH responsible for Kyron's disappearance? #2(POLL ADDED)

[angelswatchoverthem]

Where is it being reported Kaine cheated on Terri? And maybe Terri had issues, but sexting after a little boy that was last known with you, that should be worrying, but everyone reacts differently, if Terri thought sexting would make her feel better, who are we to judge?

No one knows wether he did or didn't! I was replying to someone else's post about this.

 

[Chablis]

No one knows wether he did or didn't! I was replying to someone else's post about this.

So no one knows for sure, but its being factored in?

 

[wondering1]

Where is it being reported Kaine cheated on Terri? And maybe Terri had issues, but sexting after a little boy that was last known with you, that should be worrying, but everyone reacts differently, if Terri thought sexting would make her feel better, who are we to judge?

I read, and re-read the OP, and I don't see where it said that. It did say that KH cheated on DY with TH, and that TH may have felt abandoned when KH moved out, but I didn't see it say that KH cheated on TH....I'm gonna read it again lol

eta...nevah mind, I think you were referring to the post above the one I called the OP. SORRY!!!!

 

[ThoughtFox]

Where is it being reported Kaine cheated on Terri? And maybe Terri had issues, but sexting after a little boy that was last known with you, that should be worrying, but everyone reacts differently, if Terri thought sexting would make her feel better, who are we to judge?

I think someone was referring to the Kaine cheating on Desiree WITH Terri when his first marriage broke up.

As far as the sexting - one person's hobby is another person's definition of infidelity.

 

[grandmaj]

Kaine Horman was asked during a video interview if he was having an affair and he answered NO.

 

[Mamietwo]

Where is it being reported Kaine cheated on Terri? And maybe Terri had issues, but sexting after a little boy that was last known with you, that should be worrying, but everyone reacts differently, if Terri thought sexting would make her feel better, who are we to judge?

Actually, it was a tiny rumor for a short while that Kaine was "possibly" having an affair but unfounded. He was asked in one of the interviews and denied it. I think what the poster meant that you responded to was that Kaine had an affair on DY with Terri. That poster also said that Terri may have had doubts about his infidelity but that doesn't mean an affair----it only means doubt.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Actually, it was a tiny rumor for a short while that Kaine was "possibly" having an affair but unfounded. He was asked in one of the interviews and denied it. I think what the poster meant that you responded to was that Kaine had an affair on DY with Terri. That poster also said that Terri may have had doubts about his infidelity but that doesn't mean an affair----it only means doubt.

It was me, and Thankyou that is exactly what i was saying and meant.
Sorry Chablis if you misunderstood my post.
Its all good.

 

[Chablis]

Actually, it was a tiny rumor for a short while that Kaine was "possibly" having an affair but unfounded. He was asked in one of the interviews and denied it. I think what the poster meant that you responded to was that Kaine had an affair on DY with Terri. That poster also said that Terri may have had doubts about his infidelity but that doesn't mean an affair----it only means doubt.

Ok, so no one knows for sure that Kaine ever cheated on Terri, its all unfounded rumor. And even if its true, it really means nothing, well, maybe not nothing, I mean if motive is Terri found out and punished Kaine using his child, that would make it even more sick. I sure hope that is not motive.

 

[Mamietwo]

Ok, so no one knows for sure that Kaine ever cheated on Terri, its all unfounded rumor. And even if its true, it really means nothing, well, maybe not nothing, I mean if motive is Terri found out and punished Kaine using his child, that would make it even more sick. I sure hope that is not motive.

Kaine has denied having an affair while being married to Terri. I used the word "unfounded" because while it was a tiny, quick rumor way back when, it is no longer even being spoken about, unlike so many other things we've heard in this case. At this point, it is not true.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Ok, so no one knows for sure that Kaine ever cheated on Terri, its all unfounded rumor. And even if its true, it really means nothing, well, maybe not nothing, I mean if motive is Terri found out and punished Kaine using his child, that would make it even more sick. I sure hope that is not motive.

One would certainly hope this wasn't a motive for Kyron's disappearance! But isn't the baby girl also Kaine's child? Maybe that's another reason why Kaine was advised to leave Terri and to take the baby from her also? Maybe the MFH was just one of the reasons? Just an insurance, just in case, because as yet she has no formal charges against her.

 

[Emeralgem]

Ok, so no one knows for sure that Kaine ever cheated on Terri, its all unfounded rumor. And even if its true, it really means nothing, well, maybe not nothing, I mean if motive is Terri found out and punished Kaine using his child, that would make it even more sick. I sure hope that is not motive.

IIRC, TMH's first husband, the father of her son, revealed she had cheated on him..Wonder IF that person she cheated on him with was the second husband since he the one who adoped her son.
And am now wondering IF she cheated on the second husband..And If the person she cheated on the second husband with was Kaine....
And didn't she also take the second husband to court to pay child support eventhough she had divorced him and he wasn't the biological father of her son?And now the son is back living with his biological father... Piece of work that woman is...I pray her son is in counselling....IMHO.. Anyone and everyone who has ever been associated with her may need counselling..JMO

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

Just because someone denies having an affair doesn't necessarily mean they didn't have one either! Lots of people lie about this very thing in their relationships when confronted. I'm not accusing Kaine in any way, and i hope for his sake he is being truthful.
I guess all the players in this case are the only ones that do know exactly what they have or haven't done.
As i have also mentioned before what if Terri is a compulsive liar, and has been that for a long time even before Kyron disappeared. Some people have this trait, and can't seem to help themselves! With some people it is a form of mental illness.

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

IIRC, TMH's first husband, the father of her son, revealed she had cheated on him..Wonder IF that person she cheated on him with was the second husband since he the one who adoped her son.
And am now wondering IF she cheated on the second husband..And If the person she cheated on the second husband with was Kaine....
And didn't she also take the second husband to court to pay child support eventhough she had divorced him and he wasn't the biological father of her son?And now the son is back living with his biological father... Piece of work that woman is...I pray her son is in counselling....IMHO.. Anyone and everyone who has ever been associated with her may need counselling..JMO

Then maybe she is just a compulsive liar and cheat? Unfortunately she wouldn't be the first or last person out there like that. And if this is the case the woman definitely has some issues! But does any of this make her guilty in Kyron's disappearance? Guess that is the big question!

 

[grandmaj]

And in that it is an unfounded rumor that Kaine had an affair it is not a subject of discussion here because it is a rumor. Thank YOU.

 

[Emeralgem]

Then maybe she is just a compulsive liar and cheat? Unfortunately she wouldn't be the first or last person out there like that. And if this is the case the woman definitely has some issues! But does any of this make her guilty in Kyron's disappearance? Guess that is the big question!

IMHO..It could very well be credence.. Seems she views others as mere objects who are easily discarded and disposable..JMO

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

I keep hearing that charges against Terri will be imminent, in media reports, but as of yet, nothing?

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

IMHO..It could very well be credence.. Seems she views others as mere objects who are easily discarded and disposable..JMO

I don't really know how this woman views others? Think she has major insecurity issues though?

 

[angelswatchoverthem]

I guess unless we are living with a family, none of us really know the dynamics of their situation. Lots of people will put on a good front to the public, even when their private lives are anything but favourable. We all have our different faces for different situations in life. And what is truth? It changes from moment to moment, just like emotions do.
If i am honest i must say there are days where life seems pretty crappy, but then on other days i am on top of the world! Don't we all get like that?

 

[Jack]

I believe that , as in the Scott Peterson case, a court of law may well look at all these things TOGETHER and ask if they might ALL be coincidence. It was ALL the "hinky" things in the Peterson's trial that knit together to convince a jury. His attorney tried to argue against these things piecemeal but the jury rejected his plethora of innocent explanations.

Suppose I leave my opinion out.

I am not "twisting" the fact that , as of now, Terri is the last KNOWN person to see Kyron. I am not "twisting" the police statement about her "cooperation" being partial. I am not "twisting" that a court document asserts that there is someone who alleges she tried to hire him to murder. I am not "twisting" that there is another document that claims she has been involved in sending sexually explicit texts to a new acquaintance very soon after this child disappeared.

What above is just a "snippet of information" twisted to fit a scenario? Instead, I believe it is these things THEMSELVES... grouped together...that CREATE their own scenario. One needn't add an opinion at all. Let them stand on their own.

I've omitted for now the accounts that her story does not match the details the police developed, that fact that she failed (by her own account to Kyron's parents)... two lie detector tests, and that accounts say her friend left her job on the day Kyron disappeared unexpectedly. If ALL this is also added...the scenario of guilt becomes even stronger.

It is not a "rush to judgment"...if this is indeed the case as it is reported developing. And developing the case, is the best way any of us have now...of helping Kyron.

Please show me in what I stated above what I have "twisted" because I would like to be fair and to understand.

I believe most here would do anything to help Kyron or any child.

In my opinion, (and here I'm admitting this is opinion) it is sad that the woman who put him to bed every night since he was two, who knows him intimately, has a million memories of him in her mind...is not , according to LE assisting 100% for Kyron in their estimation.

The circumstantial evidence against SP was evident very early on and IMO, a little more compelling. If there was the same type of circumstantial evidence against TH I would be right there with everyone ready to convict her. But TH was not found to be making anchors, and claiming to have gone fishing a hundred miles away the day Kyron went missing. Not only that but most of the "hinky" stuff that people are accusing TH of isn't evidence of anything. She must be guilty because she isn't claiming publicly proclaiming her innocence (we can all see how well that worked for the Ramseys). She must be guilty because she isn't reacting they way "I" would. She must be guilty because someone said she did something bad, or she had an affair. She must be guilty because she said she failed a polygraph (which she may or may not have, but it isn't evidence and why would she have gone back for another if she didn't think she could pass it.) She must be guilty because blah blah blah... its getting ridiculous with all the assuming and just plain making things up about this woman. There are even people diagnosing her with mental illnesses, which I find particularly incredible.

Please understand that I am not now, nor was I directing my comments in my original response specifically to you, or any one person, but to the general mindset that based upon what we know right now we should all join a lynch mob to convict this woman. It is undeniable that people are taking situations and twisting them to fit their theory that she is guilty. Such as, she is the last person to see Kyron so she must be guilty. Like I said before, LE never said she was but people want to leave out the word "known" and morph that statement into her factually being the last person to see him. If I'm not mistaken your original post said as much as well which is really what led me to reply in the first place. I don't have the time right now, or the desire to go through each of the points you made. I'll just say that your opinions seem to be in the mainstream of opinions people in general have concerning this case. I responded to it because I am troubled by the willingness of people to take a tiny bit of information and create entire elaborate scenarios that paint this woman as guilty when they aren't willing to consider that perhaps they aren't considering these snippets in the proper context. I give TH the benefit of the doubt because the reality is that there is no reason not to at this point and until there is I'll stay on the fence. If Kyron is found stashed away in a place that is connected to TH or DDS, and either one of them were spotted near there on the day he went missing then I'll start leaning toward the guilty side of the fence.

 

[nonfictionrocks]

The circumstantial evidence against SP was evident very early on and IMO, a little more compelling. If there was the same type of circumstantial evidence against TH I would be right there with everyone ready to convict her. But TH was not found to be making anchors, and claiming to have gone fishing a hundred miles away the day Kyron went missing. Not only that but most of the "hinky" stuff that people are accusing TH of isn't evidence of anything. She must be guilty because she isn't claiming publicly proclaiming her innocence (we can all see how well that worked for the Ramseys). She must be guilty because she isn't reacting they way "I" would. She must be guilty because someone said she did something bad, or she had an affair. She must be guilty because she said she failed a polygraph (which she may or may not have, but it isn't evidence and why would she have gone back for another if she didn't think she could pass it.) She must be guilty because blah blah blah... its getting ridiculous with all the assuming and just plain making things up about this woman. There are even people diagnosing her with mental illnesses, which I find particularly incredible.

Please understand that I am not now, nor was I directing my comments in my original response specifically to you, or any one person, but to the general mindset that based upon what we know right now we should all join a lynch mob to convict this woman. It is undeniable that people are taking situations and twisting them to fit their theory that she is guilty. Such as, she is the last person to see Kyron so she must be guilty. Like I said before, LE never said she was but people want to leave out the word "known" and morph that statement into her factually being the last person to see him. If I'm not mistaken your original post said as much as well which is really what led me to reply in the first place. I don't have the time right now, or the desire to go through each of the points you made. I'll just say that your opinions seem to be in the mainstream of opinions people in general have concerning this case. I responded to it because I am troubled by the willingness of people to take a tiny bit of information and create entire elaborate scenarios that paint this woman as guilty when they aren't willing to consider that perhaps they aren't considering these snippets in the proper context. I give TH the benefit of the doubt because the reality is that there is no reason not to at this point and until there is I'll stay on the fence. If Kyron is found stashed away in a place that is connected to TH or DDS, and either one of them were spotted near there on the day he went missing then I'll start leaning toward the guilty side of the fence.

Thank you Jack, so eloquently worded - I whole heartedly agree. Please move over and make room for me on your fence; I'll share my popcorn with you.