Do you think the parents were involved?

[IrishMist]

British newspapers come in for plenty of stick but they are paragons of virtue compared to the toxic hacks of the Portuguese press.

For some time Kate and Gerry McCann have been victims of a sustained smear campaign.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/10/01/papers-print-poison-89520-19874095/

Their slurs concern a real little girl and real parents devastated by their loss. The Portuguese cops have proved incapable of discovering what happened to Madeleine. With their crackpot allegations and lies, they and their pet journalists rub salt into wounds that must already be unbearable
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There's truth in this. IMO

Wow. This paragraph really sums up my feelings. I wish I'd have written it. Thanks for posting this.

 

[gord]

the law in the UK at least about leaving children alone is pretty unclear -

The law does not set a minimum age at which children can be left alone. However, it is an offence to leave a child alone when doing so puts him or her at risk.

any prosecution on child neglect has to be done in the frame of law - that is how things are done - we cant just say oh you probably murdered them but hey we cant prove that so lets just go for child neglect instead .

common sense in hindsight says leaving kids alone - wrong . Wither it was putting them in a position of risk has to be done in a court of law .

it is entirely a different matter from the murder/abduction case

 

[Jayelles]

Wow. This paragraph really sums up my feelings. I wish I'd have written it. Thanks for posting this.

What amazes me is that there has been so much garbage leaked by the Portuguese police - yet people still seem willing to believe them! You'd think that after the first few chestnuts that folk would start to at least regard the subsequent ones with a modicum of skepticism.... but alas no.

I think if the tabloids were to print that the Portuguese Police now suspect that the McCanns traded Maddie for a free bottle of bubbly at the Tapas Bar, there would be a whole bunch of people willing to accept it.

 

[daffodil]

What amazes me is that there has been so much garbage leaked by the Portuguese police - yet people still seem willing to believe them! You'd think that after the first few chestnuts that folk would start to at least regard the subsequent ones with a modicum of skepticism.... but alas no.

I think if the tabloids were to print that the Portuguese Police now suspect that the McCanns traded Maddie for a free bottle of bubbly at the Tapas Bar, there would be a whole bunch of people willing to accept it.

:laugh: Couldnt agree more.

 

[Brefie]

What amazes me is that there has been so much garbage leaked by the Portuguese police - yet people still seem willing to believe them! You'd think that after the first few chestnuts that folk would start to at least regard the subsequent ones with a modicum of skepticism.... but alas no.

I think if the tabloids were to print that the Portuguese Police now suspect that the McCanns traded Maddie for a free bottle of bubbly at the Tapas Bar, there would be a whole bunch of people willing to accept it.

I agree.

 

[SleuthMom]

That's because we still have HOPE that those in authority and training for this kind of job are doing the best they can. If we are NOT going to believe the police, who do you all suggest we believe to?

 

[SleuthMom]

But they HAVE admitted how sorry they are that they left the kids alone, haven't they? And child welfare DID come to their home and check.

I may have missed some of their quotes or maybe the quote where they said that they KNOW that no matter what they did (leave or no leave the kids alone) they know there is nothing they could have done to prevent this makes me want to just tell them to shut up for a minute or two. :snooty:

 

[colomom]

~snip~
The Portuguese cops have proved incapable of discovering what happened to Madeleine. With their crackpot allegations and lies, they and their pet journalists rub salt into wounds that must already be unbearable

Please explain why your statement does not read:

"The Portuguese cops, the British LE agents and Scotland Yard have proved incapable..."

 

[Rino]

British newspapers come in for plenty of stick but they are paragons of virtue compared to the toxic hacks of the Portuguese press.

For some time Kate and Gerry McCann have been victims of a sustained smear campaign.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/10/01/papers-print-poison-89520-19874095/

Their slurs concern a real little girl and real parents devastated by their loss. The Portuguese cops have proved incapable of discovering what happened to Madeleine. With their crackpot allegations and lies, they and their pet journalists rub salt into wounds that must already be unbearable
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There's truth in this. IMO

It is nothing but an opinion to begin with. The entire article should have closed with a big IMO.

 

[Texana]

What's the difference between a British editorial excoriating the Portuguese, and a Portuguese opinion essay praising the PJ?

No difference. Both are just opinion.

The comment about the "third world dictatorship" is a nice touch, though.

 

[Lola]

Please explain why your statement does not read:

"The Portuguese cops, the British LE agents and Scotland Yard have proved incapable..."

Not my statement, but by the time the British LE were involved (that by the way is Scotland Yard as well as various consultants) the Portuguese had already made a hash of this case.

 

[SleuthMom]

Not my statement, but by the time the British LE were involved (that by the way is Scotland Yard as well as various consultants) the Portuguese had already made a hash of this case.

...and I thought it was the idea of the British police to bring cadaver dogs, etc when they saw the Portuguese police idea of "abduction" was not holding up.

 

[christine2448]

Come on, knock it off. Get back on track please

 

[christine2448]

What amazes me is that there has been so much garbage leaked by the Portuguese police - yet people still seem willing to believe them! You'd think that after the first few chestnuts that folk would start to at least regard the subsequent ones with a modicum of skepticism.... but alas no.

I think if the tabloids were to print that the Portuguese Police now suspect that the McCanns traded Maddie for a free bottle of bubbly at the Tapas Bar, there would be a whole bunch of people willing to accept it.

I don't see WSers in this statement, maybe I read it wrong...and I'm first to admit, the media has tugged me around throughout this whole thing.

Don't be so jumpy everyone.

If you have a problem w/a poster and things are going on that involve WS, blah blah blah, take it up w/mods & admin in PM. No need to air everyone's dirty laundry. If you want to gossip amongst yerselves, do it via PM, TIA.

 

[april4sky]

Please explain why your statement does not read:

"The Portuguese cops, the British LE agents and Scotland Yard have proved incapable..."

colomom it was not my statement
It was part of the mirror article.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/topstories/2007/10/01/papers-print-poison-89520-19874095/

 

[Shazza]

Come on, knock it off. Get back on track please

Thankyou christine2448, has a poster on this forum from the very beginning, I thank you for trying to get us back on track.:blowkiss:

 

[CaliKid]

The funny thing is, the more accounts from various witnesses who claim to have seen something funny on May 3, the more I think the McCanns are lying.

 

[teacherbees]

me too, calikid

 

[colomom]

The funny thing is, the more accounts from various witnesses who claim to have seen something funny on May 3, the more I think the McCanns are lying.

On the subject of "witnesses", did you see this?

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/10/police-asked-interpol-to-investigate.html

"Polícia Judiciária sent a formal request to Interpol, asking police from several countries (Spain, Malta, Belgium, UK and Morocco) to investigate a specific list of names. Those are names from people that claimed they saw Madeleine McCann, since August 11, when the PJ spokesman, Mr. Olegário de Sousa, told to BBC that Police had a new line of inquiry and that line admitted Madeleine McCann was dead.

Also included is the name of Mari Olli, the first witness to say that she saw Madeleine in Morocco, on May 9. Mari Olli, married with Ray Pollard, form Leicester, told British Police she saw Madeleine at a shop, near a gas station in Marrakesh. But Moroccan police seized the video from that shop and, while Mrs Olli appears in the images, there is no child among the clients, according to a source from the “Sureté Nacional”."

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[CaliKid]

On the subject of "witnesses", did you see this?

http://gazetadigitalmadeleinecase.blogspot.com/2007/10/police-asked-interpol-to-investigate.html

"Polícia Judiciária sent a formal request to Interpol, asking police from several countries (Spain, Malta, Belgium, UK and Morocco) to investigate a specific list of names. Those are names from people that claimed they saw Madeleine McCann, since August 11, when the PJ spokesman, Mr. Olegário de Sousa, told to BBC that Police had a new line of inquiry and that line admitted Madeleine McCann was dead.

Also included is the name of Mari Olli, the first witness to say that she saw Madeleine in Morocco, on May 9. Mari Olli, married with Ray Pollard, form Leicester, told British Police she saw Madeleine at a shop, near a gas station in Marrakesh. But Moroccan police seized the video from that shop and, while Mrs Olli appears in the images, there is no child among the clients, according to a source from the “Sureté Nacional”."

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Yes, Ray Pollard, resident of Groby, has a link through his brother to Gerry McCann's brother because they're both in local government in Leic.

There is also a rumor floating around that the woman who took the picture of Bouchra was bribed to find a small, blond child in North Africa and photograph her.