Does TH's FB give us any clues?

[RainyGirl]

Pure conjecture here, but IMO I believe there is a great deal of solid, "behind-the-scenes" work being done by LE, the FBI and the DA right now.
Frustrating as heck for a concerned public? Yes.
Potentially valuable for any future Grand Jury proceedings? YES!!

JMO....

 

[CharlestonGal]

Yep, that may be true, Calliope. My main point though was to reemphasize the fact that the father was also at the gym and that he was also ignoring the media at that moment. I thought it was only fair. This was after I had read several posts about how despicable it was that the SM "hit the gym" only to find out that people were talking about the exact same incident that I saw on a local news video where the father was right there with her.

I suspect Kaine would be the one taking the heat for things like "hitting the gym" and such if he were the last one seen with Kyron. But since it was Terri with Kyron that morning and the last person known to have seen him, she is the one under scrutiny.

As an aside, people keep saying Kaine was working from home that Friday; that is TOTAL SPECULATION that came from a poster here in the form of, "A lot of people work from home on Fridays - maybe Kaine does too." That statement then grew legs and became, "Well, since Kaine was working from home that Friday, why didn't HE go to the talent show...." etc.

To my knowledge, nowhere has it been confirmed that Kaine was home that day.

 

[txsvicki]

I'd be willing to bet that LE is really looking at all the things that we're not able to discuss yet, but totally understand why we have to wait to discuss certain things.

 

[Calliope]

Yep, that may be true, Calliope. My main point though was to reemphasize the fact that the father was also at the gym and that he was also ignoring the media at that moment. I thought it was only fair. This was after I had read several posts about how despicable it was that the SM "hit the gym" only to find out that people were talking about the exact same incident that I saw on a local news video where the father was right there with her.

I absolutely agree with you. Kyron has four parents, plus an untold number of grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. Yet only one of those is being dissected and crucified for not publicly reacting as some people seem to think she should be.

 

[Calliope]

I suspect Kaine would be the one taking the heat for things like "hitting the gym" and such if he were the last one seen with Kyron. But since it was Terri with Kyron that morning and the last person known to have seen him, she is the one under scrutiny.

As an aside, people keep saying Kaine was working from home that Friday; that is TOTAL SPECULATION that came from a poster here in the form of, "A lot of people work from home on Fridays - maybe Kaine does too." That statement then grew legs and became, "Well, since Kaine was working from home that Friday, why didn't HE go to the talent show...." etc.

To my knowledge, nowhere has it been confirmed that Kaine was home that day.

To my knowledge, his whereabouts and movements on that day haven't been publicly accounted for, and neither have that of anyone else in the family. No outcry over that, though.

 

[Donjeta]

I would certainly like to hear what everyone was doing that day but I think the discussion of it (here on WS) has been limited by the board rules that we shouldn't discuss family members' private lives unless approved. It took a while for us to be allowed to discuss the SM and I think the alibis of many other people might be still off limits for discussion. Another thing is that we really have very little information about what anybody else said they were doing. I for one would feel a bit stupid later on if I had assumed that lack of information means lack of alibi and been very vocally outraged about it, only to find out later that the people I worried about had presented believable and confirmed alibis for the police on day 1.

To get back on topic, I don't have an opinion about Terri's Facebook because I haven't seen it but I appreciate everyone's insight.

 

[Wrinkles]

Hello RainyGirl,

Nice to meet you Rainy.

You wrote:
>>Pure conjecture here, but IMO I believe there is a great deal of solid, "behind-the-scenes" work being done by LE, the FBI and the DA right now.
Frustrating as heck for a concerned public? Yes.
Potentially valuable for any future Grand Jury proceedings? YES!!<<

This article just came out, it might interest you and others in here:
"Investigators in Kyron Horman disappearance say they're not ignoring tips"

The article made a point:
>>"If we released everything that we knew, we'd get all kinds of people that call in with all kinds of theories. What we want is when we get tips to get fresh information. If we get a call with details that haven't gone out, we know that person is a credible witness," Gates said. "That's integral to the case and that's going to help us solve it. When we release tidbits of information to the public, it's definitely in order to help us solve this case.<<

The above "If we get a call with details that haven't gone out" is important. It is difficult to wait for news, but there is a purpose. I hope this team of investigators resolve this soon -- I wish they could resolve it with the return of an unharmed and living Kyron.

 

[lillygator]

To my knowledge, his whereabouts and movements on that day haven't been publicly accounted for, and neither have that of anyone else in the family. No outcry over that, though.

probably because none of them were the last person to see (or be with) Kyron.


I still can't wrap my head around the gym postings and the smilies....outrageous in my opinion.

Did the father have a fb that he posted on?

 

[sofia76]

Did the father have a fb that he posted on?

Yes, but his FB page was private, unlike Terri's. He did have a Missing: Kyron Horman photo as his profile pic early on, however.

 

[Calliope]

probably because none of them were the last person to see (or be with) Kyron.


I still can't wrap my head around the gym postings and the smilies....outrageous in my opinion.

Did the father have a fb that he posted on?

bbm

That we know of.

 

[Wrinkles]

Hello Calliope,

I absolutely agree with you. Kyron has four parents, plus an untold number of grandparents, aunts, uncles, cousins, etc. Yet only one of those is being dissected and crucified for not publicly reacting as some people seem to think she should be.

Wouldn't it be a sweetness to know that there had never been a parent who would harm their child? Wouldn't it be a sweetness to know that no parent and no one would ever have to be scrutinized to determine if they had something to do with a child going missing? That would be a large part of my perfect world.

There are boundaries within this forum in terms of who can be scrutinized and at what point they can be. So far, I have seen a number of family members looked at ... not just one. Of course, one has received more scrutiny due to the boundaries for scrutiny being met.

How is it that Kyron would just quietly disappear from a school? What do we do with someone being considered the last person to see Kyron -- how does that fit into investigation? YES, I do believe that there could have been someone in that school that could have removed Kyron outside of one of his family members.

There is nothing in me that would want to suspect Terri, I would love for her to be on a pedestal as a loving and giving Christian step mom who has taken on a child as her own and loved him with all of her heart and being. I WANT THIS...but can I have it? I realize that I sometimes exhibit that which others would consider inappropriate responses, but I don't have a child who was in my care and one who I was the last to see before they went missing. If I did, I would EXPECT others to scrutinize me and what they considered to be my inappropriate behaviors and anything else that could help -- just PLEASE find my missing child!!!

I have had a child in my life that was in my care and that wasn't my birth child (a 3 month old) -- I did NOT have the same bonding to this child as I did with my own children. Even so, I can tell you that I would have laid down my life to find this child if he had disappeared from me suddenly -- I loved this little precious fellow, my whole family did. I would have taken whatever beating was necessary or came to pass if this child had disappeared from me -- if I was the last person to see him -- the child first, me last.

So, you are obviously feeling that Terri is receiving undue scrutiny, that she is being "dissected and crucified." Who are you scrutinizing in this particular case?

 

[Wondergirl]

I hope this post is okay, with questions regarding my intepretation of TH's FB.

What I am wondering, is why there were so many "likes" to all the comments, posted at various times and days, and almost all of them had a "like" by TH, which means that she was reading and replying alot on FB in the time after Kyron's disappearance.

I am not sure if there were any actual responses, but there were alot of acknowledgments by TH through "likes".

 

[brandi]

I hope this post is okay, with questions regarding my intepretation of TH's FB.

What I am wondering, is why there were so many "likes" to all the comments, posted at various times and days, and almost all of them had a "like" by TH, which means that she was reading and replying alot on FB in the time after Kyron's disappearance.

I am not sure if there were any actual responses, but there were alot of acknowledgments by TH through "likes".

She was probably saying she "likes" what they were saying, as in, thanking them for their support. I might have misunderstood your interpretation.Are you saying that you think she should not have been on FB? What do you think she should have been doing? just curious....

 

[ella971]

Hello Calliope,



Wouldn't it be a sweetness to know that there had never been a parent who would harm their child? Wouldn't it be a sweetness to know that no parent and no one would ever have to be scrutinized to determine if they had something to do with a child going missing? That would be a large part of my perfect world.

There are boundaries within this forum in terms of who can be scrutinized and at what point they can be. So far, I have seen a number of family members looked at ... not just one. Of course, one has received more scrutiny due to the boundaries for scrutiny being met.

How is it that Kyron would just quietly disappear from a school? What do we do with someone being considered the last person to see Kyron -- how does that fit into investigation? YES, I do believe that there could have been someone in that school that could have removed Kyron outside of one of his family members.

There is nothing in me that would want to suspect Terri, I would love for her to be on a pedestal as a loving and giving Christian step mom who has taken on a child as her own and loved him with all of her heart and being. I WANT THIS...but can I have it? I realize that I sometimes exhibit that which others would consider inappropriate responses, but I don't have a child who was in my care and one who I was the last to see before they went missing. If I did, I would EXPECT others to scrutinize me and what they considered to be my inappropriate behaviors and anything else that could help -- just PLEASE find my missing child!!!

I have had a child in my life that was in my care and that wasn't my birth child (a 3 month old) -- I did NOT have the same bonding to this child as I did with my own children. Even so, I can tell you that I would have laid down my life to find this child if he had disappeared from me suddenly -- I loved this little precious fellow, my whole family did. I would have taken whatever beating was necessary or came to pass if this child had disappeared from me -- if I was the last person to see him -- the child first, me last.

So, you are obviously feeling that Terri is receiving undue scrutiny, that she is being "dissected and crucified." Who are you scrutinizing in this particular case?

Thank You for your post.I agree with you and very much can relate.

 

[T-Rex]

It seemed like the "likes" were clustered to one time group--as if she did them all in one sitting, and were in response to posts like, 'Our thoughts and prayers are with you.'

 

[T-Rex]

It seems like maybe the family's media-shyness is in deference to LE. At one point while FB was still public, a friend offered to enlist a reporter-friend's help on something, and Terri said she'd have to check with LE first.

 

[seeking truth]

It seems like maybe the family's media-shyness is in deference to LE. At one point while FB was still public, a friend offered to enlist a reporter-friend's help on something, and Terri said she'd have to check with LE first.

BBM

T-Rex,

I take her word with a grain of salt. She has not shown herself to be an honest person. When LE has to ask the whole community to back up what she has told them (the flyer; with her picture, the truck's picture, and Kyron's picture, along with the very pointed questions about her, her vehicle, ) then there appears to some serious problems with her version of events and her veracity, in my opinion

She and her husband basically ordered their friends and co-workers not to speak to the media. She, (reportedly) using facebook, he, using that interesting email sent out on Sunday morning, less than 48 hours after Kyron was reported missing.

Until LE denies or confirms that they requested Teri and Kaine to do this I can only go by the fact that these "requests" for not speaking to the media originated from the Hormans themselves.

Lastly, Terri's friend and spokesperson has obviously hit the media with a P.R. campaign for Terri. I wonder what LE thinks of this?

These are all my opinions and my thoughts about what is going on.

 

[Manfro]

FWIW, I was talking to my mom about this last night and she said something really interesting. When I mentioned TM not updating her FB about Kyron, my mom replied, "Would that even be appropriate?"

IMO it's good to remember that some people aren't as social network-inclined as others. Granted, TM obviously used FB but that doesn't mean her first thought would be "I need to update my profile." For all we know, she texted all her friends or - as someone brought up - private messaged them and figured that was enough because Kyron's photo was already all over the media.

That last point is the crux of the issue for me, because I don't think people would happen across TM's page to discover Kyron was gone. I don't think it'd hurt to update your profile accordingly, but I could see TM thinking that Kyron's photo being everywhere was enough to get the word out.

Or, maybe even more likely, in the chaos of everything happening those first few days, the last thing on her mind would be updating Facebook.

All this is purely speculation but FB and Twitter and all the other new social networks are just that: new. To many, they might even be frivolous and not the first place they'd go when a family disaster hits.

Another way to see it is that if LE told them not to talk to media and/or keep their mouths shut, they may have purposefully laid off FB during those first few days. I don't know, I just think there's a lot of different factors that could have come into play.

I say all this as part of the FB generation. When I get busy at work or life I rarely update, and I think it'd be the last thing on my mind if something this serious happened. Others are different, of course, but again, IMO, it's important to take into consideration how different people value social networks.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Until LE denies or confirms that they requested Teri and Kaine to do this I can only go by the fact that these "requests" for not speaking to the media originated from the Hormans themselves.

Lastly, Terri's friend and spokesperson has obviously hit the media with a P.R. campaign for Terri. I wonder what LE thinks of this?

These are all my opinions and my thoughts about what is going on.

There has been an independent corroboration that LE has asked witnesses not to speak to the media. The guardian of Kyron's deskmate said that the FBI had asked her not to allow the child to speak to the media. Obviously, she did so anyway and a very unwise decision I believe it to be.

I suppose it is possible that the Hormans are orchestrating an incredibly complex media campaign that included manipulating the guardian into telling the media a lie.

The simpler solution is that LE, including the FBI, has asked witnesses not to go to the media and the vast majority of them are complying. Not everyone obeyed, obviously, but then even the White House can't keep every set of loose lips buttoned.

 

[Calliope]

Hello Calliope,



Wouldn't it be a sweetness to know that there had never been a parent who would harm their child? Wouldn't it be a sweetness to know that no parent and no one would ever have to be scrutinized to determine if they had something to do with a child going missing? That would be a large part of my perfect world.

There are boundaries within this forum in terms of who can be scrutinized and at what point they can be. So far, I have seen a number of family members looked at ... not just one. Of course, one has received more scrutiny due to the boundaries for scrutiny being met.

How is it that Kyron would just quietly disappear from a school? What do we do with someone being considered the last person to see Kyron -- how does that fit into investigation? YES, I do believe that there could have been someone in that school that could have removed Kyron outside of one of his family members.

There is nothing in me that would want to suspect Terri, I would love for her to be on a pedestal as a loving and giving Christian step mom who has taken on a child as her own and loved him with all of her heart and being. I WANT THIS...but can I have it? I realize that I sometimes exhibit that which others would consider inappropriate responses, but I don't have a child who was in my care and one who I was the last to see before they went missing. If I did, I would EXPECT others to scrutinize me and what they considered to be my inappropriate behaviors and anything else that could help -- just PLEASE find my missing child!!!

I have had a child in my life that was in my care and that wasn't my birth child (a 3 month old) -- I did NOT have the same bonding to this child as I did with my own children. Even so, I can tell you that I would have laid down my life to find this child if he had disappeared from me suddenly -- I loved this little precious fellow, my whole family did. I would have taken whatever beating was necessary or came to pass if this child had disappeared from me -- if I was the last person to see him -- the child first, me last.

So, you are obviously feeling that Terri is receiving undue scrutiny, that she is being "dissected and crucified." Who are you scrutinizing in this particular case?

I'm keeping an open mind. I just have seen no facts that convince me Terri harmed Kyron. I have my suspicions, of course, but not to the point I want to say I think she did this or is involved. My point in the post you responded to is that there are other family members who have been silent or near-silent, and yet Terri is being dissected almost to the exclusion of everyone else. As pointed out above, Kaine "hit the gym" with Terri. Have you seen anyone accusing him of not loving his son, of harming his son, because he "hit the gym" and hasn't spoken out to the media?

What I see are people transferring they believe their actions would be in a similar circumstance --- and crucifying Terri for not doing what they'd do. I don't think any of us can say for certain how we'd react. I can say I don't see me going in front of the media and making pleas, but who knows? Maybe I would (but I seriously doubt it). I don't cry in public, and have very dry eyes. So I guess I should be prepared to be suspect for blinking too much.

I know one thing, if the police, FBI or a family member who just happened to be a detective even hinted that publicity coming from anywhere other than an environment tightly controlled by LE could harm the investigation in any way whatsoever, I'd keep my mouth shut.