Dominic Casey: Motion to Strike Notice of Deposition & Motion for Protective Order#2

  • #421
I'm left confused by this interchange. Is the judge saying that, if the States decides to call Dominic as a witness at trial, that they then must release the transcript of the investigative interview? If so, what is the latest date that we can expect to see it released? I just can't imagine that he won't be questioned at trail.

The State has Dominic on their witness list - he was added March 23, 2009.
The Judge was saying that if the State plans to use the TRANSCRIPT of Dominic's depo (for cross examination or impeachment of other contradictory testimony), then the State must file the TRANSCRIPT.

If the State decides to use the TRANSCRIPT of Dominic's depo in trial, then the State would have to file (release to the public) the TRANSCRIPT some time prior to trial. I don't know what Judge Perry's time schedule would be for filing such documents?

I believe the State is holding off on letting Dominic's depo TRANSCRIPT out, because it will give the Defense an advantage to know what Dom said to the State and what Dom will testify to.

I wonder when the Judge in the civil Zenaida trial will allow Morgan and co to depose Dominic?
 
  • #422
We knew that the reason Dom was so recklessly stabbing with his pocket knife the garbage bags in the woods was that he was simply there to create the idea that Caylee wasn't there at the time. That is the only thing the defense has to hang it's hat on....the broken record..if the baby's body was placed while Casey was jailed, then she couldn't have done it.

Here we have Cindy Anthony say under oath, with conviction, "She wasn't there when Dominic was there in November!"

This was in response to Mr. Morgan's question, "Didn't your daughter tell you Caylee is close. I feel like Caylee is close to home? It turns out she was right!!"
Cindy replied, someone heard her say that, and then they put Caylee's body there.

"What does that mean?", Mr. Morgan asked

Cindy Anthony answers, "Well, she was not there when Dominic was there in November!!".

Alrighty then. This is the type of logic Cindy will try to use when testifying. She continued, " Don't think just because something is said that it means anything! "

You just can't make this stuff up.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FBqh9csGH8[/ame]
 
  • #423
This is one of those things that always drives me crazy with this case, and beautifully illustrates how and why KC got away with so much for so long. (And I appologize Lambchop, I don't mean to pick on you for this. Everyone does it).

The big problem that most normal people have, is they do not immediately dismiss any information that originates with or comes exclusively from KC. Even when we know she is a "diabolical" liar, we still ferret away her statements and try and in some way blend them into reality.

In this case that statement to Kio, by KC that her mother hates Hispanic people, or didn't want them in the house. Now CA may or may not have her own personal petty bigotries. But attributing anything coming out of KC's mouth is just not a sign of such. KC used that particular lie as a way of keeping her various groups of friends compartmentalized. No one friend ever saw the entirety of her life,a nd therefore her lies. She could be a diferent person with each group. It was part of maintaining her fantasy life. It had no basis in reality.

But we normal people are not wired like sociopaths. So when we encounter one, our brains don't know quite how to respond. We are wired to default to believing what people say. And even when it is complete bs, our brains still record it,a t least in part, as fact, and it shapes our ideas and impressions. Marketing folks and Politicians use this failing in humanity all of the time in order to get what they want or encourage people to buy what they are selling. A sociopath cuts right through normal people like a hot knife through butter because of this. Even when you know the sociopath is lying, normal people do not dismiss the information. This is why we still see arguements around here over whether George and Lee molested KC, over whether Cindy hates hispanics, who "Zanny" really is, the list goes on. These are all things that were 100% made up by the murdering sociopath behind all of this in order to feed her fantasy. But our brains just can't let go of them.


:bow: :bow: :bow: :gold_crown:
 
  • #424
This is one of those things that always drives me crazy with this case, and beautifully illustrates how and why KC got away with so much for so long. (And I appologize Lambchop, I don't mean to pick on you for this. Everyone does it).

The big problem that most normal people have, is they do not immediately dismiss any information that originates with or comes exclusively from KC. Even when we know she is a "diabolical" liar, we still ferret away her statements and try and in some way blend them into reality.

In this case that statement to Kio, by KC that her mother hates Hispanic people, or didn't want them in the house. Now CA may or may not have her own personal petty bigotries. But attributing anything coming out of KC's mouth is just not a sign of such. KC used that particular lie as a way of keeping her various groups of friends compartmentalized. No one friend ever saw the entirety of her life,a nd therefore her lies. She could be a diferent person with each group. It was part of maintaining her fantasy life. It had no basis in reality.

But we normal people are not wired like sociopaths. So when we encounter one, our brains don't know quite how to respond. We are wired to default to believing what people say. And even when it is complete bs, our brains still record it,a t least in part, as fact, and it shapes our ideas and impressions. Marketing folks and Politicians use this failing in humanity all of the time in order to get what they want or encourage people to buy what they are selling. A sociopath cuts right through normal people like a hot knife through butter because of this. Even when you know the sociopath is lying, normal people do not dismiss the information. This is why we still see arguements around here over whether George and Lee molested KC, over whether Cindy hates hispanics, who "Zanny" really is, the list goes on. These are all things that were 100% made up by the murdering sociopath behind all of this in order to feed her fantasy. But our brains just can't let go of them.

Perfect illustration of what I have thought for a long time and not been able to properly express. Thank you, faefrost.

If we processed everything through a sieve and filtered out all the information which originated with Casey (or any of the manipulative Anthonys for that matter) we would be left with but a teaspoon of facts in this case. If I were smart and patient enough to do this I'm pretty sure there would only be precious, bare little bones left that pointed clearly and directly to Casey Anthony. MOO.
 
  • #425
Wait...wasn't it the DEFENSE who wanted part of DC's interview sealed because the DEFENSE claimed there was some privileged information in there?? :waitasec:

You are always spot on. So now we see that they all had a lot to be ashamed of. Dear God!!
 
  • #426
Hello WS

TWA and other WSers said a while ago, that DC was a big piece in this puzzle. That his trying to hide what he knew was very important information, and although it has been a while since I read this thread I know much of what we found out regarding DC in the recent doc dump was discussed and sleuthed by WS.

With the dates on those emails(barring sleuthing not done yet)it seems that DC was privy to much information very early on, as was Cindy.

Here is a link to a closed WS thread, otherwise I would have just bumped it.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=82487&highlight=Cindy

...js...
 
  • #427
At least now I know why DC avoided testifying for so long. It wasn't anything important or critical at all.

His lawyer seems pretty bright. And she said to him - you are crazier than a fruitcake! Zip It forever!!! The world will laugh at you if you get on the stand and tell them what you've been doing. Trust me - you'll never work again.
Just Zip it!
:croc:
 
  • #428
At least now I know why DC avoided testifying for so long. It wasn't anything important or critical at all.

His lawyer seems pretty bright. And she said to him - you are crazier than a fruitcake! Zip It forever!!! The world will laugh at you if you get on the stand and tell them what you've been doing. Trust me - you'll never work again.
Just Zip it!
:croc:


Soooooooo wish we had a "zipper" auditory emoticon !!!!!
 
  • #429
Did we ever get the deposition transcript of this? I wonder if the media did not request if specifically.
 
  • #430
Did we ever get the deposition transcript of this? I wonder if the media did not request if specifically.

JB is desperate to make an issue where none exists. It's clear that the area where Caylee's remains were ultimately found was NEVER searched because it was an area that was under water until approximately 3 weeks prior to the discovery of Caylee's remains.

At the time of the first TES search Tim Miller stated that there were areas they wanted to search that were under water, and those areas would be searched when the water subsided.

At the time of the second TES search, there were still a few areas that were under water. At the conclusion of the second TES search, Tim said there was one area they wanted to search but they almost lost an ATV in the process and called off the search of that area. This turned out to be the area where Caylee's remains were later found.

On Dec. 11, 2008, the day Caylee's remains were found, Tim Miller came to the remains site and was interviewed. He said that was the place they wanted to search, but was still under water when they tried to search it during the second TES search, and the area where they almost lost an ATV before calling off the search. He said he was thankful that he DID call off that search because if they had tried to continue, a horse or ATV might have pushed Caylee's remains into the mud and they never would have been found.

Also interviewed at the remains site on December 11 or 12, 2008, was a young man about 16 or 17 years old, who was a resident on Suburban Drive. He said that back in late June or early July there was an odor in the area that he described as the smell of something dead. He said the neighbors called LE who came out to investigate. A police officer found a dead animal a few feet off the pavement near where Caylee's remains were later found. The odor lingered and the neighbors in the area attributed it to the dead animal the officer found. I have to wonder if the odor was solely from the dead animal or was part of the odor Caylee's decomposing body?

JB is wasting a lot of time trying to make claims that have no valid basis. The area where Caylee's remains were found was under water from the time of Hurricane Fay (August 18, 2008) until just a few weeks prior to the discovery of the remains. Coupled with the forensic botany showing that Caylee's remains were at that site from approximately late June onward, disputes JB's contention that someone placed Caylee's remains at that site at a later date and while Casey was in jail.
 
  • #431
Is Dominic's depo in these docs?

I sure hope his PI board hears about his scheming to try to frame, allegedly, Kronk and his son. It is vile!

Comical that someone of such ill repute is making bar complaints with righteous indignation. I know now he wasn't morally outraged about being told not to call 911 by Baez. IMO he was just mad he did not get paid.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67qpUNAz4vQ[/ame]

Where do they get these people?
 
  • #432
Is Dominic's depo in these docs?

I sure hope his PI board hears about his scheming to try to frame, allegedly, Kronk and his son. It is vile!

Comical that someone of such ill repute is making bar complaints with righteous indignation. I know now he wasn't morally outraged about being told not to call 911 by Baez. IMO he was just mad he did not get paid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67qpUNAz4vQ

Where do they get these people?

BBM: I don't know but there seem to be a lot in Florida. jmo
 
  • #433
Bump RE: Blanket discussion in another thread. See post #343 in this thread re: the pink blanket, and CA's mistatements about sending people to Suburban....she lied by ommission-she sent DC, and they found one of Caylee's blankets, IMO.
 
  • #434
Because DC is brought up in the Hearing TES thread, and(LolaMoon :wave: ) asked why doesn't the defense go after DC with all the pictures and video he has? That made me remember DC! There has been so much in this case, so many players, so much information that I have forgotten whole chunks of it, important chunks. I have bumped this wondering what has become of this part of the case, this motion. I'm writing this post before I have re-read the thread, it's been a while for DC stuff.

I do wonder how a personality such as JB makes it through law school. I would think his lack of organizational skills alone, would have kept him from making it through. I do speak from ignorance, as I have no idea what it takes to be a professional lawyer(esp. schooling wise). But I do have imo plenty of examples of Jose being woefully unprepared for the smallest of tasks, deadlines and expectations that even a lay person such as myself can understand. And if I may say so, respect. :innocent:

The fact that I had forgotten DC, did not make me feel Casey was any less guilty. Truly, the basic facts of this case: the 31 days the "pattern of conduct", exhibited by Casey will be more than enough for a jury imo.

It's okay to forget these people. I am glad the judge knows we are just chit chat, because that is what we are. That is all I wish to be in this case because all I care about is I will never forget Caylee.

...js...
 
  • #435
Could it be that the information SA was able to get out of DC during their last "investigative" interview with him would be more useful for another matter that will be coming up after the trial? I would think whatever DC has would not affect the trial of Ms. Anthony but has more to do with her parents and one in particular. It may not have been released because of the fact that it is still an ongoing investigation. jmo
 
  • #436
Could it be that the information SA was able to get out of DC during their last "investigative" interview with him would be more useful for another matter that will be coming up after the trial? I would think whatever DC has would not affect the trial of Ms. Anthony but has more to do with her parents and one in particular. It may not have been released because of the fact that it is still an ongoing investigation. jmo

Respectfully Quoted LambChop :cool2:

Okay. Some of that is coming back to me now. Thank you. The SA does not even need to get into all of this, yah? That is the stuff Cindy and (JB?)were doing and really does have nothing to do with why Casey is going to be on trial.

Thanks again. :blowkiss: I really should just walk away until the trial...sigh, yet I don't. :crazy:

:twocents:
 
  • #437
*bump* without looking through this entire thread. Is DC on the prosecution witness list? TIA
 
  • #438
*bump* without looking through this entire thread. Is DC on the prosecution witness list? TIA

If [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5301066&postcount=377"]this list [/ame]still accurate, he is #50 and was added 3/23/09.
 
  • #439
IF I remember correctly, the State was doing an investigative interview with DC. I don't believe he was even on the States witness list, but I do remember Judge Strickland tell the State to go ahead with the investigative interview... I also remember JB wanting to be at this interview and was told that he needed to put DC on his witness list and it would then be a deposition... IF I remember correctly, JB did NOT want to do that.

I want to say this hearing was in late December 2008/early January 2008? Maybe someone has the hearing video? I don't believe DC was added to the States witness list until March 2009? I have NO IDEA what has happened since then?

Hopefully I am not too wrong about this, but it is the way I remember it?
 
  • #440
LolaMoon, see the atty. thread too. More info there.


DC haunts me. All this wondering and thinking about him and just watch.... He either won't get called to testify or, if so, depending on the scope of questioning, his testimony will prob be dull and I will be disappointed. lol

I better get some answers 'cause I wanna know. :D
 

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