Dr. Phil w/George and Cindy Anthony Air Date 9/13 and 9/14 2011 Thead # 2

[Well Done 99]

Perhaps you are right.... although I have a feeling Cindy likes being the master lol/mistress/decision maker of the house and she is the one that dictates what George wears and how he dresses. Imo, she sees it as a reflection on her as being a 'good wife' and appearances are everything to CA.

I doubt she insisted that George work. She would much rather say that she had to do everything. I just find everything done by Cindy has an ulterior motive. Didn't he get hurt when he was on the police force and draws a disability check?

With him not working it keeps him right where she wanted him. Under her rule and thumb.

IMO

George is allowed to be a man only when Cindy wants or needs him to be.
IMO we saw a glimpse of the real George when he grabbed her by the shoulders and ushered her away from the mob on Hopespring.

 

[pip]

George is allowed to be a man only when Cindy wants or needs him to be.
IMO we saw a glimpse of the real George when he grabbed her by the shoulders and ushered her away from the mob on Hopespring.

And when Cindy was in the hall of the courthouse, stoned and blabbing incoherently (yet like a pitbull) about being a nurse of decompostion and George was firmly saying, that's enough, shut up, lets go and pushing her towards the door.

 

[pip]

And of course when George took the floor during Cindy's silent interview when she was too stoned to form syllables or lift her head up, much less open her eyes. He got to be the man that day too, by default.

 

[MsMacGyver]

Maybe the A's felt is was smarter of them to have Dr. P donate to their foundation. There are alot of people that respect Dr. P and might just figure since HE donated HIS money to the A's foundation then it must be on the up and up. An endorsement if you will. The A's promised they wouldn't use Dr. P donation to line their pockets but they never said anything about other donations made by the public. Maybe the A's are gambling on the fact that a large part of the public hasn't followed this case close enough to know what might really be going on plus it wasn't Dr. Phils money donated, it was the networks. If you think about it..pretty good scam. I'm not sure their smart enough to figure all this out but I'm sure they found a lawyer that was.
Might be the A's are waiting to see how huge the backlash is from the Dr. P interview before they jump into the deep end of the media pool or it could be that most networks can't afford their asking price. Maybe theres just not that much interest in them since it seems all the networks are gearing up for the Conrad Murray trial. Some are advertising as such...If you think the felon was the trial of the year then Conrad Murrays will be the trial of the century.

Anyone who has been married or gone through a divorce should realize that sometimes what you see is NOT what you get. It different when you live with someone, you are privy to the bad side of their personality. Everyone has one but some men & women are much worse than others. During a divorce sometimes you learn new things, not so nice things about the person you have lived with for years. I think it's interesting that some are taking GA at face value, maybe because compared to CA he DOES look good. If you think about GA and his past, you have to wonder if GA isn't very smart with money, pretty lazy and is missing some of his body parts namely his backbone. I think GA is one of those guys if you asked him a hard question, his answer would always be..I don't know.

 

[pip]

Maybe the A's felt is was smarter of them to have Dr. P donate to their foundation. There are alot of people that respect Dr. P and might just figure since HE donated HIS money to the A's foundation then it must be on the up and up. An endorsement if you will. The A's promised they wouldn't use Dr. P donation to line their pockets but they never said anything about other donations made by the public. Maybe the A's are gambling on the fact that a large part of the public hasn't followed this case close enough to know what might really be going on plus it wasn't Dr. Phils money donated, it was the networks. If you think about it..pretty good scam. I'm not sure their smart enough to figure all this out but I'm sure they found a lawyer that was.
Might be the A's are waiting to see how huge the backlash is from the Dr. P interview before they jump into the deep end of the media pool or it could be that most networks can't afford their asking price. Maybe theres just not that much interest in them since it seems all the networks are gearing up for the Conrad Murray trial. Some are advertising as such...If you think the felon was the trial of the year then Conrad Murrays will be the trial of the century.

Anyone who has been married or gone through a divorce should realize that sometimes what you see is NOT what you get. It different when you live with someone, you are privy to the bad side of their personality. Everyone has one but some men & women are much worse than others. During a divorce sometimes you learn new things, not so nice things about the person you have lived with for years. I think it's interesting that some are taking GA at face value, maybe because compared to CA he DOES look good. If you think about GA and his past, you have to wonder if GA isn't very smart with money, pretty lazy and is missing some of his body parts namely his backbone. I think GA is one of those guys if you asked him a hard question, his answer would always be..I don't know.

He is definitely not the sharpest knife in the drawer, nor the most ambitious. A perfect target for CA who likes to run the show.

 

[MissJames]

I'm not so sure that the Anthonys are hated or even disliked by the general public. And I think very few people know who their lawyer is, or care. Those who have been very involved in the case do, but not the public in general. No one I know in RL has as strong an opinion about the Anthonys as WSers do, for example. Casey, yes. But not her parents.

As I said, I don't think their foundation will go anywhere, but it's not because most people hate them or anything like that.

Dr. Phil has devoted 3 shows to Cindy and George . They were his big season opener. He told Cindy everyone watching wanted to shake their TV's.
Their antics have played out on every major media outlet.

They are ,at the very least ,controversial and the main reason this case became so big . Plenty of mom's murder their children,but George and Cindy added that something extra that kept everyone watching.

IMO their reputation extends far beyond WebSleuths. Cindy made sure of that.
The Today Show
Dateline
CBS Early Show
Larry King
Oprah (but she cancelled )
Dr. Phil
the list goes on and I don't believe it would if general public had neutral feelings about them.
as always JMO

 

[robmom]

I just find everything done by Cindy has an ulterior motive.

Me, too. I've tried for years to be sympathetic and have pity for her, but during the trial and now watching these interviews...she's just another pathological liar like her daughter. And the entire time she's talking you can see the wheels turning behind her eyes as she tees up the next response, the next lie. Every quote and everything she does is calculated. For what, i don't know, but I find this woman to be as scary as her daughter. I truly do.

 

[LancelotLink]

For three plus years I have seen the same act as on Dr. P. George and Cindy are Barnum and Bailey, my apologies to Barnum and Bailey, but my point is, they are two peas in a pod. Both are liars. And they figured out through web forums and comments that George was always the more sympathetic one. That is why the suicide lite when they were facing charges. Who called it in? Their lawyer. Who did they call? John Allen. And the world stopped, wringing their hands over nothing but a farce. Two suicide notes. One found in the car. Come on!!
Believe River Cruze or not, he was there, plenty of times and I believe her when she heard him on the phone, yelling at Cindy for not getting the money first for the interview in NY. I believe her when she talked of George calling reporters for paid interviews.
Sorry, this act is old, old, old!

 

[pip]

Me, too. I've tried for years to be sympathetic and have pity for her, but during the trial and now watching these interviews...she's just another pathological liar like her daughter. And the entire time she's talking you can see the wheels turning behind her eyes as she tees up the next response, the next lie. Every quote and everything she does is calculated. For what, i don't know, but I find this woman to be as scary as her daughter. I truly do.

And George is just her programmed sidekick. He is not very intelligent, which further compounds his dilemma. Cindy is sly like a fox and George has to play along, yet he is a football field behind her cues (requiring her hand on his knee at all interviews for morse code taps to guide his answers). It has been often mistaken as deception (even though he did plenty of lying), even when he told the truth on the stand he couldn't convince anyone because he was dimwitted milktoast. I don't believe for a minute he was involved with RC, yet he couldn't convincingly articulate that, nor the fact that he didn't molest FCA, nor that he didn't participate in disposing of Caylee's body. He didn't do any of those things, but his responses were so dimwitted and weak.

 

[pip]

George is no victim here, let's be straight about that. He has enough brain cells to know right from wrong..prisons are full of dopes like him..
His low intelligence and personal weaknesses got him into the position he finds himself in. Guilty. But CA is a whole nuther breed. She is a ring leader and a dangerous, toxic personality.

 

[Just K]

It makes it sound like they are asking for easier ways to gain custody of a child than it is now for grandparents.

Right, but then CA refers to her felon daughter as MOTY and an "AMAZING" mother. She can never have it both ways. No court will ever let grandparents take custody from an amazing parent unless that amazing parent becomes a bad parent.

 

[txsvicki]

I agree that the couple are two peas in a pod. However, a really good narcissist will fool people for years, and portray themselves as the victim while convincing those who don't know him/her very well. I've seen all the red flags concerning GA, and believe that he is no dummy, nor abused. He was excited and planning on starting a foundation right from the beginning when Casey was in first in jail. The two would do anything to save Casey from prison and they would also blame anyone, even let themselves be accused of heinous crimes if necessary.

 

[Carrington]

I feel that Cindy thinks all of it, from day 31 before and after is none of our business.
Everytime I see that smirk, I think that what she really wants to say is. none of your business, but she just can't bring herself to say it, she wants the checks to continue.

IMO

 

[txsvicki]

CA said on Dr. Phil she could have taken Caylee away from KC if she had wanted to. I'm guessing she is alluding to the total lack of voice grandparents have. Yes, children are their parents... I totally agree. But too many times the parent(s) is/are incompetent, and still the grandparent has no voice. I went through a similar thing. Child protective services was useless. When I went to court, the judge chided me. My voice, and numerous photos of abuse were laughed at. I was belittled by my daughter, son-in-law and the judge. They went on to have two more children. Years later when I got to see the four kids due to the son-in-law nearly killing my daughter, they had been horribly neglected and abused. Guess who is raising four damaged kids now! I am broker than I don't know what and deep in debt - and plain worn out. If the courts would have simply LOOKED at my photos and listened to me for a few minutes, there might have been just TWO well cared for kids. The HELL those kids went through makes me want to vomit. The judge even took away visitation previously given, saying it would disturb the family time, and leaving it up to my daughter, which was ZERO.

OK, I got on my soapbox, and now I am off. But CA probably does not want to SAY these things since she lauds FCA as a good mom... but maybe she found similar problems. She was helpless to help - like I was. I'm just saying MAYBE!

Mostly thanks to drugs taking over this country, I'm in the same boat with you and lots of other families. We could get nothing done and didn't have thousands to pay an attorney who told me I probably wouldn't win custody anyway. Finally the kids were taken away, but the two oldest have horrible problems. I had to quit my job, quit school, and now have no money, no foster care payments of any sort, getting older, and few brain cells left. At least in my story, the two youngest have had a chance to have a peaceful life away from drugs and craziness these past nine years. One thing for sure though: I didn't have the kids' parents living in my home, driving my vehicle, supporting them, covering up, lying for them, blaming everyone else, and putting them above the children like Cindy and George have done.

 

[Just K]

It's interesting that your talking about CA ramblings to confuse. I was watching the 1st interview again last night and I realized that I've gotten so used to her rambling that I stopped hearing what she says sometimes. I'm not sure anyone has brought this up.

CA...I'm going on those 31 days of knowing that KC took excellent care of Caylee, that she was a good mother, I never had any reason to doubt her relationship with Caylee.

We know from a few sources that CA did not think KC was a good mother.

Dr. P...refering to KC stealing- Did you ever consider shes behaving like a criminal?

GA...Absolutely I did , I even told her you can't keep this pattern up, " it's affecting your daughter, it's affecting my grandaughter" and I didn't want that to happen any further.

How was this affecting Caylee, no explanation

Dr. P...Everytime you talked to her you never heard a sqeek,cry, etc. KC is telling you shes gone, napping, out having fun.

CA...Thats why on July 3rd I drove down to Universal and tried to see KC & Caylee.
She then said she was in Jacksonville.

This was an important statement to me. Notice how CA skims over the part of being at Universal and what happened when she got there. Now your a grandparent who has seen your grandaughter pretty much everyday since she was born. You were the primary babysitter besides KC. You haven't seen Caylee for about 18 days, not a peep but you have been talking to KC everyday. You drive to Universal and what happens?
We know when LE went there and tried to get in they were told that KC didn't work there. So CA stops at the gate and says, my daughter works here and I would like to surprise her and my grandaughter. Plus no one ever mentioned that KC ever took Caylee to work with her. CA is probably told your daughter doesn't work here.
So now you know on July 3rd that KC has been stealing from you and now you know she has lied about having a job but still you do nothing.
CA expected her daughter to be perfect and she was anything but. KC had to call CA to let her know where she was, what she was doing, when she would be home. Basically CA wanted to know everytime KC had a bowel movement but yet CA knew KC took excellent care of Caylee.

If I knew my 22 year old daughter took excellent care of her child why would I expect her to constantly call in to report?

CA wanted to control KC's life, she was worried about something but yet she never met Zanny after hearing her name for 2 years, didn't know her phone number, where she lived. CA had no number to reach KC at except for KC's number, no friends numbers or addresses. The only way she found KC that night was because she found Amy's number in KC's car. Things just don't add up...

Sometimes something can be so obvious that we don't even see it or notice it.

CA has said from very early on that she went to Universal Studios, when her felon daughter said that she had Caylee there with her for a family day type-event. That once there she found out there was no such event and that her felon daughter was not employed there.

So, on July 16th, 2008, when Yuri Melich and John Allen took their own valuable time (away from other equally as important cases) to escort the lying mother of a reported "missing child"; why didn't Cindy Anthony say there is no need to waste your valuable time going to Universal. She doesn't work there.

 

[BuzzieCat]

ITA. And I think the bigger problem is that even with grandparents rights, they'd still have to go to court and get on record that Casey was an unfit mother. Cindy just can't do that. She can't admit that Casey is not a good mother. She knows there has never been nor is there any proof of any medical or psychological problems with Casey. Her need to be seen as a good mother (which Cindy wouldn't be if Casey is unfit) trumped her love for Caylee. No grandparent's rights would have made Cindy call Casey unfit in a court of law. Caylee's Fund is a total fraud, IMO. Cindy would never risk airing any dirty laundry in public to save Caylee. She is full of chit.

Exactly.

Furthermore, CA believes the felon was a great mother and Caylee died because of an accidental drowning. What on God's Green Earth does that have to do with Grandparents' Rights?? Why is noone in the media questioning this?? Why did the good doctor Phil give a donation to this foundation?? etc.

Exactly!

Right, but then CA refers to her felon daughter as MOTY and an "AMAZING" mother. She can never have it both ways. No court will ever let grandparents take custody from an amazing parent unless that amazing parent becomes a bad parent.

Apparently Cindy wanted a law where it would be really easy and inexpensive to take custody of a child away from its parent without having to tell the truth (imagine that). This is the scenario she would have preferred imo:

Cindy (in court): Your Honor, my daughter Casey is the mother of the year. She is the best mother that has ever existed in the history of the world. However, she seems to be suffering from a brain tumor, seizure disorder, and postpartum schizophrenia [even though the birth was almost 3 years ago]. These health problems that I diagnosed her with are putting Caylee in jeopardy. I don't have any medical records or examples of Casey's behavior to show you. I'm also not going to take Casey to a doctor for evaluation. I just think you should award me custody of Caylee right now.
Judge: Okay, whatever you want.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Dr Phil, Cindy Anthony and George Anthony.

Dr Phil has obvious motives of self promotion. The Anthonys' interview gave him the high ratings he was hoping for with his opening season's program. He's claiming he hasn't compensated for the interview but has "donated" a sum of money (that is so high that the amount is being kept secret) to a questionable foundation established by the Anthonys. His "donation" is likely to lead some viewers to believe that this foundation is one worth their donations, too.

Cindy Anthony continues with her song and dance. Her lies are like gristle; the more they're chewed ~ the bigger they get. She has managed now to insult thousands who suffer with legitimate diseases and has even invented one of her own. Referring to Caylee's insect and animal eaten and strewn body as only a shell was a selfish rationalization that shocked many.

George Anthony continues to roll with the tide. It appears he can't quite make up his mind whether he wants to stand on his own beliefs or swim with the current. I have seen him play so many roles (from "Hi Beautiful, you're the CEO" to enraged father and from "I know that smell" to "I never knew garbage could smell that bad") that I just don't trust him and his overly dramatic posturing. George is not the proverbial empty suit but he may just be an empty pair of flip-flops. The fact that he's not as bad as Cindy does not impress me one single bit. That's no standard worth rating, imo.

With these three standing around the witch's cauldron it will be interesting to see the after effects of the brew they're stirring up.

Double, double toil and trouble . . .​

 

[Azcrabcakes]

Sometimes something can be so obvious that we don't even see it or notice it.

CA has said from very early on that she went to Universal Studios, when her felon daughter said that she had Caylee there with her for a family day type-event. That once there she found out there was no such event and that her felon daughter was not employed there.

So, on July 16th, 2008, when Yuri Melich and John Allen took their own valuable time (away from other equally as important cases) to escort the lying mother of a reported "missing child"; why didn't Cindy Anthony say there is no need to waste your valuable time going to Universal. She doesn't work there.

Excellent point! I envy your thinking process! So many contradictions, omissions and lies, er, mis-truths it IS hard to examine them for inconsistencies. However, you caught this glaring oversight by authorities! Applause! Oh, maybe she was not involved or around when LE went to Universal? Still, she should have reported this lie, I mean mis-truth, right away to LE.

 

[miss plum]

They won't get much traction with the general public,but they seem to attract people with money and questionable histories.
I don't know anything about finance or money laundering so I'm not even sure a charity is useful for that type of thing,but the Anthony's and their lawyer are well aware that they are disliked and even hated by the general public. Surely they realize they won't have a popular foundation,so how do they expect to get donations?
Just more hinkiness in a long line of hink.
MOO

I doubt they care about the future of this foundation. It's probably already served its purpose, which was to legally launder payment from Dr. Phil for their disgusting interview. Weren't CA and GA seen visiting some fancy financial advisor shortly after the trial? He/She could have set this up as a vehicle for them to be paid in a way that enables DP to say hand on heart he didn't pay them.
Caylee RIP.

 

[rotterdam]

For three plus years I have seen the same act as on Dr. P. George and Cindy are Barnum and Bailey, my apologies to Barnum and Bailey, but my point is, they are two peas in a pod. Both are liars. And they figured out through web forums and comments that George was always the more sympathetic one. That is why the suicide lite when they were facing charges. Who called it in? Their lawyer. Who did they call? John Allen. And the world stopped, wringing their hands over nothing but a farce. Two suicide notes. One found in the car. Come on!!
Believe River Cruze or not, he was there, plenty of times and I believe her when she heard him on the phone, yelling at Cindy for not getting the money first for the interview in NY. I believe her when she talked of George calling reporters for paid interviews.
Sorry, this act is old, old, old!

Thank you , thank you for that bolded part of post . I was hunting for that info from RC about that remark which I believed.. Thought may be , I did not remember it right. George was the one IMO that saw the blood money opportunity way before CA. About the same time as Baez.

George was the one emptying the donation jars at the two begging command centers. George was the one running around with that bill board behind his car, ensuring folks did not forget to keep the money coming while he knew there was no missing Caylee but a deceased Caylee. George is just a plain grifter. Not any better than CA. Actually he is better in his con game than CA judging by the sympathy he is able to drum up..
CA has somewhat a handicap , she has lots of screws loose. George is just cunning,lazy, mercenary and loves easy money JMO. The ultimate parasite. He has not fooled me one iota in those three years.