Dr Phil w/ George and Cindy Anthony (Show airs 9.13.2011)

[razzyberry]

I understand that it really doesn't matter if anyone watches. If you don't have a Neilsen box that records what you are viewing, it doesn't matter.
I also know that my blood pressure is going to go through the roof, so I am opting out. Hope some of you can relay messages for the rest of us. TIA.

That is absolutely incorrect. In the age of cable, satellite and DVR, Everybodys viewership is tracked and recorded.

Niesen box or not, What u watch is part of the total tally.

 

[daisy7]

Ok , I give up. Unless there is proof of an agreement between Dr Phil and the Anthonys about editing this show, I will forever remain silent about this subject. So Help Me God.

No need for you to be silent about this. You and I just don't agree about this, and, of course, there's nothing wrong with that :blowkiss:

 

[Deleted member 39678]

lol yesterday i claimed to bite my fingers and not blog today...all i've done today!

I know what you mean. But sometimes its best to end a discussion after both sides have made their point clear and further discussions only lead to conflict.

 

[razzyberry]

What Cindy said is that Casey changed after she had the baby and that she might have hormonal change induced postpartum schizophrenia. Which is complete nonsense.

 

[Thinker Belle]

She supposedly has a brain tumor from stress??? Riiight because living at your parent's home while they pay for everything for you and your child, using them as a built-in-babysitter, partying and not attending college or holding a job for a 2 years is SO SO stressful! Poor Casey!!

 

[Whisperer]

Nothing new from the interview. They are the same way they always were. George wants to speak and cindy has his towing her line. No hard questions were answered. Cindy is in charge...as usual. What a waste of money. Dr. Phil could have had better people on and given a needy family a car and a check for life.

I am personally insulted over the opening statement made by him to explain away all the people that are screaming scammers to the Anthonys. I know in my heart that the statement he made was probably an agreement between Lipppman and the station in order to get the interview.

Dr. Phil has a foundation. He knows exactly how they operate. We got to see a small portion of the money G & A claimed they made on the other Caylee fund. GMAB! They made 100x more than they claimed. The Tshirts alone must have raised at least $50,000.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

No need for you to be silent about this. You and I just don't agree about this, and, of course, there's nothing wrong with that :blowkiss:

No. that's ok. See my last post.

 

[Chanler]

Summary from Dr. Phil: Cindy has advanced three theorys to explain her daughter's behavior.

1. Brain Tumor
2. Grand Mal Seizures
3. Post Partum Schizophrenia

He states he will never do an interview the felon. Her behavior speaks for itself. She doesn't have a brain tumor as there is no medical evidence. He doubts grand mal seizures would cause her behavvior. In addition, there is no evidence that casey suffered from post-partum Schizophrnia.

Hi, Whisperer. Even under much less pressing scrutiny, parents (especially mothers) can be defensive or in denial about their children's wrong-doing. In this, Cindy is grasping at straws. I wonder, for instance, if the "grand mal seizures" might have been the after-effects of chemical or alcohol self-indulgence.

 

[feddup]

Haven't read this whole thread as I prefer not to - since the verdict I have avoided everything and anything to do with this whole family. I did just now read on AOL a little about the interview with Dr. Phil...........

She was filling in for someone who didn't show at a hot body contest?
She has a brain tumor?????
She possibly might have post partum (post = after; partum = birth). Caylee was three for God's sakes.
She has grand mal seizures???? Cindy doesn't know if Casey had a seizure THAT day and wants to one day find out. What day - what is THAT day????? And how the heck is she ever going to find that out. Give me a break.

PULEEEEEEEEEZZZZZZZZEEEEEE DO NOT INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE.

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Cindy coms across as incredibly naive, she wants to trust everyone. That is what I take when I lsiten to her. In her mine, someday her daughter will tell her REALLY what happened to Caylee but I doubt, unless theyre with a really good counselor that will happen.
Im wondering why Dr P didnt ask them about the pool and what kc claimed happened?

 

[Etilema]

This has been my belief all along that KC wanted George out of the picture because he called her on the BS. Also, CA told her mom that she wasn't going to divorce GA since he would get half of their assets, which I'm sure KC wanted to get her hands on. I always thought GA was lying and that KC was the one gambling online but seeing GA publicly admit to the online gambling today, I may have been off base. Difficult to tell who if anyone is telling the truth.

So, it's back to being internet gambling, and not the Nigerian email scam he claimed to the FBI:

His separation from Cindy earlier in the year came about from a loss of money through a Nigerian scam he fell for. . . He lied to Cindy and told her it was through gambling because he was embarassed he fell for the scam.
http://cmm.lefora.com/2008/11/23/fbi-tapes-released-george-anthony-cindy-anthony/

OK, so is he assuming that Cindy never heard those recordings and so he is still lying to her about the source of the loss being gambling? Or did he lie to the FBI? If so, why? (Is it illegal to gamble in this way and he was afraid of legal repercussions, should he tell LE?)

 

[beach]

Yall, please be good on this thread when the show airs. :angel:

We should ALL be past being shocked at the lengths Cindy will go to protect Casey and the Anthony family image, so please don't go overboard with the bashing or feign utter shock at how crazy it all is. Nobody that has read this forum for more than an hour should be shocked about any of that stuff. The ONLY people that should be surprised would be those living in a cave or on a remote island w/o access to ANY electronic communication.

Let's try our hardest to just report the facts, describe their demeanor & recap the interview. I'm not saying not to discuss what is said during the interview and I am certainly not saying you should respect them -- all I am asking is for everyone to keep it in perspective considering all we know about Cindy & George. There are many, many posters who have chosen not to watch but have expressed that they will read the recaps here. Let's try to keep it on topic and timely.

This interview will be aired over 3 days - today, tomorrow and next Monday.

If it becomes dominated by bashing and bickering, it will be closed and we won't have anywhere to discuss it. So, please think about that, okay? It just isn't worth it.

Thanks you guys.

bump this post as needed

:bump: for those that may not have seen this.


There is some constructive conversation going on in this thread and for that I thank you! However, as it goes on, there is quite a bit of the "same old same old" that I was talking about in my bumped post. It is OLD people. It has all been said for years now.

This thread should probably be closed until it airs tomorrow so we don't blow it, but since there are quite a few constructive points being made I am leaving it open for a while longer.

If the :deadhorse: starts to dominate it, I am going to go ahead and lock it and we can reopen it before tomorrow's show airs.

Up to you guys.

 

[Whisperer]

Hi, Whisperer. Even under much less pressing scrutiny, parents (especially mothers) can be defensive or in denial about their children's wrong-doing. In this, Cindy is grasping at straws. I wonder, for instance, if the "grand mal seizures" might have been the after-effects of chemical or alcohol self-indulgence.

Hi Chanler :seeya:

I wouldn't trust any mother who defends her children about everything, who insists their child would NEVER lie to them. It is not normal or healthy. It is a bad sign and is a personality trait that I avoid at all costs

Cindy is not in denial nor is she the type that wants to see the good in all people. That was a another self-serving lie to protect her image. Dr. Phil fed that compliment to her..on a platter and she took it and flew with it.

 

[Thinker Belle]

:bump: for those that may not have seen this.


There is some constructive conversation going on in this thread and for that I thank you! However, as it goes on, there is quite a bit of the "same old same old" that I was talking about in my bumped post. It is OLD people. It has all been said for years now.

This thread should probably be closed until it airs tomorrow so we don't blow it, but since there are quite a few constructive points being made I am leaving it open for a while longer.

If the :deadhorse: starts to dominate it, I am going to go ahead and lock it and we can reopen it before tomorrow's show airs.

Up to you guys.

Great points and thanks for the reminder. it really is beating a dead horse and does nothing positive to constantly reiterate it. It is so easy to get sucked into the Anthony vortex by simply being baffled and disgusted by their words/behavior and then trying to make sense of it all but are we really surprised by anything at this point?

 

[MsMacGyver]

I was very interested in GA & CA body language. This is what I observed.

GA...I noticed 2 positions of his hands, one is called Steepling and the other was Interwoven fingers.
Steepling...thoughtfulness-looking for or explaining connections-confidence-authority-serene control-listening patiently & wisely-thinking deep & important thoughts
Interwoven Fingers...frustration-negativity-anxiousness
His legs were uncrossed-openess

CA hands..When one arm crosses the other with palms down...authority-strength-dominance-generally defiance or firm disagreement
CA legs were crossed...closed attitude-degree of caution-uncertainty-feeling threatened-mildly insecure. Upper crossed leg & knee points towards someone means person of interest...points away from someone means disinterest or perceived threat.
Cocked head means confused or challenging you.
Squinted eyes means attempt at understanding what is being said, usually skeptical.
Ankle lock- defensiveness-suppressing negative emotion.
I noticed CA & GA never touched each other except one time GA touched CA knee when she was upset/crying. GA was sitting straight and CA was leaning toward GA.
I just thought this was interesting.

 

[OneLostGrl]

I'd have to go back thru the events before the pregnancy to make a good judgment call, but I do know this: I would never have tolerated KC's behavior in the 31 days after Caylee's disappearance. CA missed some serious, whale sized, multi colored flags during that time period.
CA was talking to KC during that time, and she sensed something was wrong, but her propensity for denial was stronger than her common sense.

It still is, in many ways. Dr. Phil confronted her when she said I'm not making excused for kC, and he said yes you are. What do you think, George?

Has that conversation never come up between GA and CA? Has CA never been shown how she does indeed make excuses? I wonder if she insists with those she talks to that she doesn't need therapy. She needs it, and I'm not being hateful. She really needs to come to terms with this stuff.

http://www.internet-of-the-mind.com/enabling_behavior.html

http://www.livestrong.com/article/14675-enabling-personality/

 

[Deleted member 39678]

I was very interested in GA & CA body language. This is what I observed.

GA...I noticed 2 positions of his hands, one is called Steepling and the other was Interwoven fingers.
Steepling...thoughtfulness-looking for or explaining connections-confidence-authority-serene control-listening patiently & wisely-thinking deep & important thoughts
Interwoven Fingers...frustration-negativity-anxiousness
His legs were uncrossed-openess

CA hands..When one arm crosses the other with palms down...authority-strength-dominance-generally defiance or firm disagreement
CA legs were crossed...closed attitude-degree of caution-uncertainty-feeling threatened-mildly insecure. Upper crossed leg & knee points towards someone means person of interest...points away from someone means disinterest or perceived threat.
Cocked head means confused or challenging you.
Squinted eyes means attempt at understanding what is being said, usually skeptical.
Ankle lock- defensiveness-suppressing negative emotion.
I noticed CA & GA never touched each other except one time GA touched CA knee when she was upset/crying. GA was sitting straight and CA was leaning toward GA.
I just thought this was interesting.

I found your post interesting. Thanks. Posts like this help a lot for those of us that haven't watched the show on TV. Thanks again.

 

[Thinker Belle]

I wonder how many viewers the episode attracted? Matt Morgan was one of them. He was asked on his Twitter page if he would be watching and replied:

"I would prefer to boycott but must watch to prepare for #CaseyAnthony 's deposition on October 8th."

 

[krkrjx]

I did not watch the interview, and am just now catching up on what was said during it. So far I have read that Cindy claims FCA suffered from postpartum schizophrenia? Andrea Yates suffered from postpartum PSYCHOSIS (don't believe there is such a thing as PP schizophrenia), drowned her 5 children in the bathtub, and STILL MANAGED TO CALL 911

Plus, Yates' youngest child was around 6 months old at the time. That is more typical a timeframe for anything post-partum. Caylee was almost 3 years old so even if Casey had suffered some post-partum issues they would certainly not have continued years after she gave birth.

Casey did her evil deed out of spite, not illness. Clearly she knew right from wrong or she would not have covered anything up. Yates, on the other hand, did not cover up her actions, and Yates was truly ill.

I do not know WHAT Cindy's problem is but whatever it is, I doubt she will ever get it fixed.

 

[Whisperer]

I'm not sure if anyone has commented on this but I watched JVM and NG. The A's were totally slammed for their interview. Mr. Kesse was on NG and was very upset about the donation that Dr. P made to the foundation. NG said that if the terms of the donation hasn't been made public then there could be some untruths about it.
One question I had was Dr. P saying there were 6 calls in 4 minutes to CA. CA says she spoke to the felon but doesn't remember the conversation. Are there any theorys on what the felon said to CA and how that could have effected the actions of CA after.
Also CA claimed she never told the felon she would take Caylee away from her and in the next breath said I even told her I would never do that. Wouldn't that suggest that CA & the felon did have a conversation about that very subject?

In the first two weeks immediately following the felon leaving home...she called her mother many times. I see few, if any, returned calls made by cindy. I recently found all the phone records.

Shouldn't that tell us something? My impression is that both parents are covering. They lied to authorities and on the stand and can't get out of it now. It was probaboly a case of casey running out of the house with caylee in tow. They new the state of mind kc was in and chose to bury their heads in the sand.

I will say it again, they knew kc was fuming. They didn't take any steps to protect Caylee and they will not admit that and most likely regret it...so they chose to make up a story of kc going on vacation w/Jeff and bonding with Caylee. When cindy said "Bonding", that tells me that she observed NO bonding all along. The words "Awesome" and "Amazing" are words of no description in which many people choose to cover up all sorts of reality. Scott Petersonj described his marriage as that.

 

[Whisperer]

In reviewing the hundreds of photos of kc and Caylee, she is not bonding with the child. It is more like a photo op for kc herself. SheLooks like she treated Caylee as some sort of doll, playing dress up and house.