Dr. Teresa Sievers - Motives and Theories (Including MS speculation)

[creepingskills]

POSTED BY CREEPINGSKILLS: (and somehow I didn't insert the quote correctly) I need some clarification regarding the raid being federal and ATF involvement? I thought the search of CWW's trailer (July 12) was performed by a SWAT team. The only mention of guns in connection with the search that I'm aware of was a neighbor saying the SWAT team had big guns or something to that effect. I don't recall weapons being removed from CWWs home, is this true?

IMO, if LE was trying to keep the search off the radar, and maintain the element of surprise, they wouldn't have shown up on a Sunday with a SWAT team. My assumption is if LE told MS, it would have been after CWW was in custody on July 12. I wouldn't classify this as a heads up, but more as a LE tactic to induce panic and see where that panic takes MS. For example...LE tells MS we just executed a search in MO and then they watch MS very closely to see if he acts on the info (destroying evidence, lawyering up, etc.).



Thanks CSkills...I just realized "my assumption" was probably wrong. (And that has NEVER happened to me before:what I don't know which agency (except SWAT was used in MSM stories)
"Scott did confirm that his office was involved in a SWAT raid of Wright’s trailer in Hillsboro, Missouri on July 12."
http://www.winknews.com/2015/09/04/...w-sievers-murder-suspect-was-linked-to-crime/
(SWAT ??= situations that require increased firepower or specialized tactics. The officers in a SWAT unit have undergone special training and have access to an arsenal of weaponry, armor and surveillance devices beyond standard-issue police gear.) It sure would be a "surprise raid ffor me on a Sunday afternoon." Now that you wisely pointed out the difference....JRR is in Federal custody & CWW in state custody...is this intentional to "keep them apart" even though they have both been charged with the same murder?
ONE more question: Curtis Wayne Wright, 47, of Hillsboro, and Jimmy Ray Rodgers, 25, ... Wright, of Cadet, Mo., were charged with murder in the death of a Florida ... Wright's residence in Hillsboro is 23 miles from Rogers in Cadet. Did anybody else notice sometimes HILLSBORO and sometimes CADET are mentioned as residence.
http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/...cle_b8672306-02b3-5b61-ade6-0f788059f929.html

Hopefully someone with more experience in booking/probation could weigh in here, but IMO, both CWW and JW could be kept separate regardless of the fed v. state custody. I wouldn't think that JR would be held in a federal prison prior to the revocation hearing.

I do think its telling that SWAT showed up at CWW's, but we haven't heard of the same showing of force used in connection with the search of JR's trailer. And JR is the one with a history of possessing an amount of guns to supply a small army.

 

[creepingskills]

One article I read said he was released in 12 hours.
Was he detained twice?


Wright was initially arrested as detectives waited for a warrant in the case to be filed. He was booked into jail at 6 a.m. July 12, only to be released more than 12 hours later.

http://www.abc-7.com/story/29962990...-released-prior-to-murder-charge#.VfCZ_xFVikp

Thanks! 12 hours makes more sense than 3 days.

 

[MinnesotaMary]

So y'all know, it is NOT at all uncommon for police to place people on 'probable cause holds', particularly on a Frid., or Sat. Many of those persons wind up released without being charged right then. Some are never charged; some are. Statute of Limitations ('S/L') for most crimes here in MN is 3 yrs. There's NO S/L for murder. (Right now MN legislature is trying to add more crimes to that 'No S/L' grouping, EG kidnapping, child s@x crimes...).

 

[concernedmother]

Not that it really means anything but I checked out the computer at the DR office today.. The nurse entered my weight and all that stuff so when she left I looked at it while waiting for the DR. They enter every detail in a program called Prime Suite by Greenway. The doctor enters as he goes too. This sounds like what Dr Sievers probably used. When I check out, every thing they done to me is given to me printed out. Its really a nice way to keep a record at home if you want to moniter something about your health.

 

[Sparky]

All of this keeps me very busy, but in my spare time I love the sun, live to cook and reading is my outlet.

https://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100004391764552&sk=about&section=bio&pnref=about

 

[sparkalita]

I firmly believe that there was a love triangle but not in the traditional physical sense of the word. I don't see TS being unfaithful but I do see her being very close to one person that she confided her problems and frustrations to, a soulmate of the nonphysical kind. (I am a female that feels strongly that we all need that one female friend that we can vent with, otherwise some of our marriages or relationships would implode. ) This person starts planting ideas in MS's mind and making him feel like TS is about to leave him anyway. Through mutual complaining about TS, they become close and probably even physically involved (that doesn't really matter, although it makes good reading). Conversation turns to fantasies about how they can do the practice without TS. Conversation turns to action with the help of CWW who is loyal to MS.

I don't know how exactly the plan was carried out. But I do think this love triangle and a couple of hitmen is the thing that makes great books and movies!

 

[kammiemc]

It seems telling that when the sheriff said there are other victims in TS's death, he included her children, but he did not mention her spouse.


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[Southwflorida]

It seems telling that when the sheriff said there are other victims in TS's death, he included her children, but he did not mention her spouse.


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I just got home from work. What else did I miss???

 

[nifwor1967]

When I think about all the possibilities of this case, a few things come to mind.

1. If CWW was the office computer whiz, TS probably trusted him with setting up her personal technology as well. Those things would include setting up her iPhone, or iPad, etc. If she had any apps to operate work programs or a VPN, he would have the information, such as Apple ID and password or other means to get her passwords. With that information they can log into her personal account and monitor everything. CWW or MS could have been monitoring her personal texts / emails for some time without her knowing.

2. If... and I only say if... there were any texts deemed crossing the line by MS and he was reading them, maybe he became jealous and then the anger developed to where this case is now. Or CWW was reading them and brought them to MS.

3. Maybe she suspected one of them to be suspects in a previous "cold case" and put her concerns in writing somehow (text or email) or another way they became aware of her knowledge illegally (which of course included their guilt).

I think there are many possibilities, but I do think the moment police looked into her phone, there would be clues everywhere as to who the key players are in this case. If there were any concerns of extramarital affairs on either side, it would be apparent almost immediately by reading texts. For example, on her side, she may have text a friend something regarding MS or her annoyance with him or suspicions of an affair to a girlfriend. If it was TS having the affair, you would think there would be some sort of text somewhere or phone communications indicating this.

That is what I am thinking as part of a "digital footprint".

 

[relay]

Tricia asked Sheriff Scott to further elaborate on the meaning of MS being within the envelope of suspicion on blogradio tonight. He answered by saying that first they look at those closest to the victim and that was what led them to Missouri. I already posted this in the blogradio thread but also wanted it here because I think it is very telling. He stated this near or around the 17th-19th minute of the program, iirc.

 

[KateB]

I just got home from work. What else did I miss???

30 minutes with Sheriff Scott - Recorded and available on demand here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websle...about-the-strange-murder-of-dr-teresa-sievers

 

[SeesSeas]

Jumping off your post, Tricia asked Sheriff Scott to further elaborate on the meaning of MS being within the envelope of suspicion on blogradio tonight. He answered by saying that first they look at those closest to the victim and that was what led them to Missouri. I already posted this in the blogradio thread but also wanted it here because I think it is very telling. He stated this near or around the 17th-19th minute of the program, iirc.

Interview excerpts:
Scott - 23:40 – "The inside out led us to Missouri . . . within that realm of witness/suspect/etcetera in terms of their involvement or knowledge of the case.. . "
Tricia - 24:25 – "We do have to be careful. We can only really talk about the people who have been arrested. It would be horrible to assume that somebody is a suspect and treat them like a suspect on the internet and have their lives torn up if they’re not. So, we have to be very careful . . ."

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

I just got home from work. What else did I miss???

Nothing except giving you a big thank you for your contribution here & for your big-heartedness in your actions.
Thank you, SW!

 

[Dushi]

30 minutes with Sheriff Scott - Recorded and available on demand here:

http://www.blogtalkradio.com/websle...about-the-strange-murder-of-dr-teresa-sievers

My sincerest thanks will have to review it tomorrow

 

[Southwflorida]

Nothing except giving you a big thank you for your contribution here & for your big-heartedness in your actions.
Thank you, SW!

Thank you - very sweet. I just listened to the radio interview. Tricia did a fabulous job! Sheriff Scott referred to the children as victims too, but not Mark. That speaks loudly to me. I certainly have my opinion on what happened.

 

[kammiemc]

Jumping off your post, Tricia asked Sheriff Scott to further elaborate on the meaning of MS being within the envelope of suspicion on blogradio tonight. He answered by saying that first they look at those closest to the victim and that was what led them to Missouri. I already posted this in the blogradio thread but also wanted it here because I think it is very telling. He stated this near or around the 17th-19th minute of the program, iirc.

That makes it seem that they looked at MS and his tentacles led them to CWW and JR. I agree, telling. Keepin the spirit of this thread (dedicated to motives and theories involving MS) I speculate that: a) MS believed that LE would buy into the break in gone wrong scenario and wouldn't connect it to an outta state guy like JR; b) MS believed that any communication he had with CWW wouldn't seem suspicious to LE because CWW worked for the practice; and c) MS didn't think CWW would ever get connected to the crime since he didn't think JR would get fingered for it.

But MS didn't take into account the inside out technique of investigating. He didn't realize that LE would quickly scan his friends to see if any had records. Boom. Best friend. Record. Friend of best friend fancies himself a hitman. The rest writes itself.



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[human]

I am stuck more than ever on the twists and turns, the fascinating, and th tragedies that led up to the murder.

I have little idea except money money and more money. Probably "love". ( these creeps cannot love).

Those things are standard issue so I cannot see it being that simple

 

[relay]

That makes it seem that they looked at MS and his tentacles led them to CWW and JR. I agree, telling. Keepin the spirit of this thread (dedicated to motives and theories involving MS) I speculate that: a) MS believed that LE would buy into the break in gone wrong scenario and wouldn't connect it to an outta state guy like JR; b) MS believed that any communication he had with CWW wouldn't seem suspicious to LE because CWW worked for the practice; and c) MS didn't think CWW would ever get connected to the crime since he didn't think JR would get fingered for it.

But MS didn't take into account the inside out technique of investigating. He didn't realize that LE would quickly scan his friends to see if any had records. Boom. Best friend. Record. Friend of best friend fancies himself a hitman. The rest writes itself.



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Exactly!

 

[debbiegarcia36]

I am stuck more than ever on the twists and turns, the fascinating, and th tragedies that led up to the murder.

I have little idea except money money and more money. Probably "love". ( these creeps cannot love).

Those things are standard issue so I cannot see it being that simple

IMO to meet the criteria of a "complicated" and "intricate"case where the information we currently have only "scratcbes the surface" of what's out there, I am 80% convinced that CWW was involved in drug trafficking of some sort between Missouri and Florida. JMO of course.

Missouri is a big drug trafficking state especially for meth. A drug trafficking ring involves many layers of players (intricate)and is a dangerous and complex business. Somehow the office computer system may have been used or there were events, activities, etc that made TS suspicious and she ended up a threat to the whole enterprise.

 

[human]

If she uncovered something, wouldn't she be afraid to come home alone especially knowing her hubby had a close relationship with CCW?