Dr. Teresa Sievers - Motives and Theories (Including MS speculation)

[debbiegarcia36]

If she uncovered something, wouldn't she be afraid to come home alone especially knowing her hubby had a close relationship with CCW?

Yes, I am stuck there. But the motive had to be more than a murder for hire or affair. IMO she had to have been a threat to someone and what ever was going on involved lots of evidence that LE recovered in MO and elsewhere that still needs to be examined. If it wasn't drugs it had to be some other type of illegal enterprise, scam, conspiracy that involved layers of people and a trail of paper IMO Maybe identity theft????

 

[howonkee]

Yes, I am stuck there. But the motive had to be more than a murder for hire or affair. IMO she had to have been a threat to someone and what ever was going on involved lots of evidence that LE recovered in MO and elsewhere that still needs to be examined. If it wasn't drugs it had to be some other type of illegal enterprise, scam, conspiracy that involved layers of people and a trail of paper IMO Maybe identity theft????

I agree with this. One thing that occurred to me was that since CWW was their computer guy, maybe he convinced them that they needed an expensive server when they really did not, then ran the server from his place in MO, and said server was used for nefarious purposes. Why not?

 

[debbiegarcia36]

I agree with this. One thing that occurred to me was that since CWW was their computer guy, maybe he convinced them that they needed an expensive server when they really did not, then ran the server from his place in MO, and said server was used for nefarious purposes. Why not?

Absolutely very possible!

 

[makayla]

IMO to meet the criteria of a "complicated" and "intricate"case where the information we currently have only "scratcbes the surface" of what's out there, I am 80% convinced that CWW was involved in drug trafficking of some sort between Missouri and Florida. JMO of course.

Missouri is a big drug trafficking state especially for meth. A drug trafficking ring involves many layers of players (intricate)and is a dangerous and complex business. Somehow the office computer system may have been used or there were events, activities, etc that made TS suspicious and she ended up a threat to the whole enterprise.

I was just mentioning this yesterday, and from the beginning I've believed that in order to fulfill the criteria of "complicated and intricate" it probably includes nefarious actions by CWW, the IT guy. I would be surprised if it doesn't include drugs of some kind and no matter how hard I try to remove drugs or some $$$$ shenanigans, I haven't been able to come up with anything else. I'm not saying that there may not be the added bonus of an affair, because I think that is still a possibility, but I believe it's more than just an affair ... much more. MS has been on my radar from day one and so far hasn't been eliminated.

I'd like to thank Tricia for the fabulous interview with Sheriff Scott, which I was able to listen to tonight after work. Great job Tricia!! Nothing from that interview changed my mind to my above opinions, they really just confirmed my thoughts.

As usual ... JMHO

 

[Stopwatch]

The sheriff mentioned something about tragic events leading up to the murder. According to Skinner, MS had expressed some suspicions regarding his sister's death. Is it possible that MS felt something was close to being exposed (what with LE having mountains of computer evidence) and decided the best defense was a good offense?

 

[human]

I did not hear the show, but I was reading the comments the listeners on here said.

Did the Sheriff use the word "pregnant"?

I wonder if someone is pregnant? Not the gf of JR, but someone else.

 

[LemonCloud]

In reference to the radio interview, does anybody think the Sheriff may have dropped hints or used certain words to jolt any possible suspect who might be listening?

 

[human]

If the driver of the Avalanche has a part to play, what is it?

 

[ModMaiden]

I still feel her phone call to MS upon arriving to Florida was the signal. So I wonder how did MS act or behave from the time of the signal to the time of being notified she died. Did he seem a bit nervous? Looked at his phone too often? Pacing? Did he keep away from family to hide any possible signs of his behavior being out of the normal? Did MS go to extra lengths asking Teresa to make sure she calls him upon getting back to Florida? Perhaps she replied in some joking manner about his insistence of her calling.

Why I tend to go back to that phone call is it could have been to let CWW and JR know it was a green light and move ahead with the plan. What did MS do after ending his call with Teresa I wonder?

CWW and JR knew she was at home so how did they know that? Well, they weren’t expecting anyone to be at the house. So why not rob the home sooner when they know the family was gone. CWW worked for them so surely he knew their office schedule. He is a friend of MS and perhaps through conversation had learned of the planned vacation.

I was debating with myself to see how could I get past that phone call. How did those two know she was at home? Was that phone call the signal?

Of course, that leads me down the “why?” path. Why would MS want to kill his wife? What is he hiding?

Debt comes to mind if she was unaware of their finances if MS handled it all. Things could have gotten out of hand and he started to panic in fear of TS finding out.

An affair is possible but I don’t see MS wanting to give up that lifestyle with Teresa. Did he suspect she was having an affair and thought it was the person he phoned to find her?

Was he seduced by the promise of more money and greater success with someone else at the steering wheel? Sometimes even the action of others is telling and I wonder what the hidden meaning is behind some of their words.

The why is still a mystery but that phone call, in my opinion, started the chain of events that had been planned out to occur.

 

[CoolJ]

I still feel her phone call to MS upon arriving to Florida was the signal. So I wonder how did MS act or behave from the time of the signal to the time of being notified she died. Did he seem a bit nervous? Looked at his phone too often? Pacing? Did he keep away from family to hide any possible signs of his behavior being out of the normal? Did MS go to extra lengths asking Teresa to make sure she calls him upon getting back to Florida? Perhaps she replied in some joking manner about his insistence of her calling.

Why I tend to go back to that phone call is it could have been to let CWW and JR know it was a green light and move ahead with the plan. What did MS do after ending his call with Teresa I wonder?

CWW and JR knew she was at home so how did they know that? Well, they weren’t expecting anyone to be at the house. So why not rob the home sooner when they know the family was gone. CWW worked for them so surely he knew their office schedule. He is a friend of MS and perhaps through conversation had learned of the planned vacation.

I was debating with myself to see how could I get past that phone call. How did those two know she was at home? Was that phone call the signal?

Of course, that leads me down the “why?” path. Why would MS want to kill his wife? What is he hiding?

Debt comes to mind if she was unaware of their finances if MS handled it all. Things could have gotten out of hand and he started to panic in fear of TS finding out.

An affair is possible but I don’t see MS wanting to give up that lifestyle with Teresa. Did he suspect she was having an affair and thought it was the person he phoned to find her?

Was he seduced by the promise of more money and greater success with someone else at the steering wheel? Sometimes even the action of others is telling and I wonder what the hidden meaning is behind some of their words.

The why is still a mystery but that phone call, in my opinion, started the chain of events that had been planned out to occur.

Interesting about the phone call. How would CWW and JR know the phone call was made?

 

[NSS]

People who are having an affair are not thinking with their logical brain. No one thinks they are going to lose their lifestyle/family/job, quite the opposite they have their cake and eat it.

The Sheriff was very guarded last night, but he said the tragic events that led to her death, he could have said the horrific crime, the senseless killing, but he was (IMO) letting us know that this was not an unplanned random burglary. Murder was the intention and there was a 'lead up'. I wonder if that was weeks, months or days.

I also think that the net has been cast wide here. If there were an affair or money trouble, my guess is that there are many people who knew and said nothing. There is guilt weighing a lot of people down right now.

There is a palpable sense of sadness over her death, people sharing their memories, and building a picture of a great person and their personal sense of loss. There are a few people who were very close to TS who have not done this.

One of the less significant things I noticed is that - in some places TS is referred to using her maiden and married name Tottenham Sievers.

 

[ModMaiden]

Interesting about the phone call. How would CWW and JR know the phone call was made?

She called MS when she got to FL so that was his signal to notify CWW to proceed. I might not have worded it clearly. I do wonder how did CWW know she was home. The phone call is troubling because not many spouses who do this when traveling end up murdered so his actions prior to her leaving CT and how he acted after her call may indicate some involvement. His body language and behaviors could have been noticed by others as out of character.

It sends chills down my back at this thought because he would have known it was the last time he would ever speak to her. That alone gives me pause about that call but I still wonder if her calling him played a role in getting the ball rolling. MS wouldn't know she was back until she called him. They couldn't kill her if she wasn't home so how did they know when to commit the crime?

JMO and all that jazz.

 

[IQuestion]

She called MS when she got to FL so that was his signal to notify CWW to proceed. I might not have worded it clearly. I do wonder how did CWW know she was home. The phone call is troubling because not many spouses who do this when traveling end up murdered so his actions prior to her leaving CT and how he acted after her call may indicate some involvement. His body language and behaviors could have been noticed by others as out of character.

It sends chills down my back at this thought because he would have known it was the last time he would ever speak to her. That alone gives me pause about that call but I still wonder if her calling him played a role in getting the ball rolling. MS wouldn't know she was back until she called him. They couldn't kill her if she wasn't home so how did they know when to commit the crime?

JMO and all that jazz.

Hmmm, I been developing a totally different time line, based on what the neighbors (of the Jarvis St house) heard vs the discussion on the security alarm. Yes, Teresa could have called her husband and said, "I'm home." But, she could have also CALLED SOMEONE ELSE and also said, "I'm just landed. Do you want to meet me at the house??" That individual, the friend, knew the security code, had a garage door opener, or was also the friend who took care of the dogs. The friend got to the house before Teresa (the red suv?) and then the killers arrived. But they (JRR & CWW) got scared because NO ONE ELSE WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THERE. So they just waited for 5/6 hours. Teresa enters the house, visits with her friend, goes to sleep. She gets up in the morning, say 5 to 5:30am (remeber the shrill the neighbors heard???) as the sun was rising and they were getting ready for work. Teresa, lets out the dogs, walks into the kitchen....and she is attacked. The "friend who was staying over" hears the screams and runs out a back door, thinking the husband has "caught them" and scared out of their wits. But, in fact (or my theory anyway) it is CWW and JRR....and they start yelling and arguing because the "other person has slipped out the back." (Remember the neighbors hearing a man arguing/yelling...like on a phone call??)..."You mean the other person got away! You are so stupid, you're incompetent! You were supposed to take care of both of them!..etc, etc.
MS waits until the medical office opens, Neither Teresa or the "mystery friend showed up for work on Monday." So, I can see the office calling the friend, who goes back to the house....And now sees what happened to Dr. Sievers. MS, THE CASINO GUY WHO KNOWS THE ODDS...decides to play the hand he has been dealt. After all, he has the best bluff of all....I WAS IN CONNECTICUT. The most obvious thing to do is call the "friend" who ran away...pretend you don't know anything that happened, because how would you know if you were in Connecticut. Tah Dah...NOW the "possible" scenario matches the sounds and the vehicles. And....Sheriff Scott has said the biggest misconception the public has is THE TIME LINE...
I've got a few more "thoughts on the motive" but am waiting for Mods to get back to me on whether it is RELEVANT.. or suitable for our sleuthing, right now. An idea I developed from the the "exclusive supplement website" mentioned by a poster and the REWARD they offered for misuse of the website...NEVER saw anything like that before.
Oh well, we've been asked to THINK OUT OF THE BOX many times....and this is probably my most WAY OUT OF THE BOX Bonita Springs timeline. Strange, but possible scenario... that would provide the "twist & turn Wow factor" we have heard about, huh??
Good night, I almost burst a blood vessel in my head trying to put this post/puzzle pieces in logical/plausible order...(insert exhausted emoticon)

 

[Eileen730]

Interesting about the phone call. How would CWW and JR know the phone call was made?

IMO CWW knew she was returning home that night. He didn't need a phone call from MS.

 

[Dmacky]

We have been told that the neighbors who heard arguing and the loud shrill in the early morning of June 29th had nothing to do with Dr. Sievers death.
This tells me she was killed late Sunday night, after arriving home from the airport. I STILL think it happened as soon as she pulled into her garage, right after the garage door was shut.

I think one of the many things TS had going against her was exhaustion. I'm sure she had a long busy day in Connecticut with her family, then had the late plane ride home. Take in account waiting for her luggage, and driving home. I'd say at midnight she had to be worn out. I don't think she saw it coming and therefore no screaming.
JMO ~

 

[kammiemc]

She called MS when she got to FL so that was his signal to notify CWW to proceed. I might not have worded it clearly. I do wonder how did CWW know she was home. The phone call is troubling because not many spouses who do this when traveling end up murdered so his actions prior to her leaving CT and how he acted after her call may indicate some involvement. His body language and behaviors could have been noticed by others as out of character.

It sends chills down my back at this thought because he would have known it was the last time he would ever speak to her. That alone gives me pause about that call but I still wonder if her calling him played a role in getting the ball rolling. MS wouldn't know she was back until she called him. They couldn't kill her if she wasn't home so how did they know when to commit the crime?

JMO and all that jazz.

I agree that could have been a signal. Of course, CWW could have also known more or less when she was to arrive home based on her flight arrival and time it would take to drive home from the airport. So he might have proceeded with that timing in mind regardless of whether she called MS to let him know she made it home ok.

 

[kammiemc]

In reference to the radio interview, does anybody think the Sheriff may have dropped hints or used certain words to jolt any possible suspect who might be listening?

I am struck by how he keeps talking about close family, close friends and co-workers. It seems like he is trying to rattle more than just MS.

 

[Eileen730]

We have been told that the neighbors who heard arguing and the loud shrill in the early morning of June 29th had nothing to do with Dr. Sievers death.
This tells me she was killed late Sunday night, after arriving home from the airport. I STILL think it happened as soon as she pulled into her garage, right after the garage door was shut.

I think one of the many things TS had going against her was exhaustion. I'm sure she had a long busy day in Connecticut with her family, then had the late plane ride home. Take in account waiting for her luggage, and driving home. I'd say at midnight she had to be worn out. I don't think she saw it coming and therefore no screaming.
JMO ~

I think the argument was very real we are justhe not being g told how it fits in jmo

 

[MinnesotaMary]

I am struck by how he keeps talking about close family, close friends and co-workers. It seems like he is trying to rattle more than just MS.

I kinda agree: The way my 'gut' felt was that the Sheriff was deliberately trying to say things super duper casually, nonchalantly, how 'we law enforcement work from the inner circle out, ya'll know, the close relatives, siblings of the murder victim, grandmother of the murder victim, oh, ah, co-workers, AND UHHHH OH BY THE WAY----------------------THE HUSBAND !----------------the cash wash attendant, the Arby's window person, AND UUHHHHHHHHHHHHH OH BY THE WAY-------------------------THE SPOUSE/HUSBAND !

 

[Paulas88]

IMO CWW knew she was returning home that night. He didn't need a phone call from MS.

CWW could've had some type of tracking on her phone or MS's, that duplicates calls
and texts.