Dr. Teresa Sievers - Motives and Theories (Including MS speculation)

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  • #161
I am struck by how he keeps talking about close family, close friends and co-workers. It seems like he is trying to rattle more than just MS.

I think so, too, kammiemc. And, I think that is one reason Sheriff Scott is doing interviews. I think he is sending a message to possible suspects not yet named.
 
  • #162
I have believed from day 1 that MS is involved and also believe one coworker. jmo
 
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I was just mentioning this yesterday, and from the beginning I've believed that in order to fulfill the criteria of "complicated and intricate" it probably includes nefarious actions by CWW, the IT guy. I would be surprised if it doesn't include drugs of some kind and no matter how hard I try to remove drugs or some $$$$ shenanigans, I haven't been able to come up with anything else. I'm not saying that there may not be the added bonus of an affair, because I think that is still a possibility, but I believe it's more than just an affair ... much more. MS has been on my radar from day one and so far hasn't been eliminated.

I'd like to thank Tricia for the fabulous interview with Sheriff Scott, which I was able to listen to tonight after work. Great job Tricia!! Nothing from that interview changed my mind to my above opinions, they really just confirmed my thoughts.

As usual ... JMHO
My thoughts exactly.
 
  • #165
She called MS when she got to FL so that was his signal to notify CWW to proceed. I might not have worded it clearly. I do wonder how did CWW know she was home. The phone call is troubling because not many spouses who do this when traveling end up murdered so his actions prior to her leaving CT and how he acted after her call may indicate some involvement. His body language and behaviors could have been noticed by others as out of character.

It sends chills down my back at this thought because he would have known it was the last time he would ever speak to her. That alone gives me pause about that call but I still wonder if her calling him played a role in getting the ball rolling. MS wouldn't know she was back until she called him. They couldn't kill her if she wasn't home so how did they know when to commit the crime?

JMO and all that jazz.

I agree. It is unimaginable to think someone could commit that kind of deception, "OK, Honey, good to know that you landed safely."

Something even harder to think about is that he knew that when she said "goodbye" to her daughters in Connecticut, that is was the last time. Who could do such a thing to two innocent children? A true psychopath.

I understand why some here have a hard time imagining that MS was involved because it is just so difficult to picture the family guy on FB being such a monster. But sadly, somebody was behind it and everything points to him. IMO, JMO
 
  • #166
FYI

I opened a thread where we can discuss the extradition of CWW from MO to FL. I moved several posts over to that thread so if you're missing one, look on the new thread linked below. :)


Extradition of CWW from MO to FL
 
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I agree. It is unimaginable to think someone could commit that kind of deception, "OK, Honey, good to know that you landed safely."

Something even harder to think about is that he knew that when she said "goodbye" to her daughters in Connecticut, that is was the last time. Who could do such a thing to two innocent children? A true psychopath.

I understand why some here have a hard time imagining that MS was involved because it is just so difficult to picture the family guy on FB being such a monster. But sadly, somebody was behind it and everything points to him. IMO, JMO

And, unfortunately, the stats are what they are. It really is unfathomable as a concept.
 
  • #169

It's there, I just checked. :)

Hover your mouse over the blue script that says Extradition of CWW from MO to FL. (It's embedded it in that sentence.)
 
  • #170
I have believed from day 1 that MS is involved and also believe one coworker. jmo

I did too. I always thought he was behind this murder. It was just too convenient with TS arriving home alone and MS thinks he's home free still out of state.
 
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Finally, no more 503 error! What is going on today with the server?

Regarding the "draft" method of keeping communication secret, evidently it is not so secret after all.

https://www.aclu.org/blog/surveillance-and-security-lessons-petraeus-scandal
"Ironically enough, by storing emails in a draft folder, rather than an inbox, individuals may be making it even easier for the government to intercept their communications. This is because the Department of Justice has argued that emails in the “draft” or “sent mail” folder are not in “electronic storage” (as defined by the Stored Communications Act), and thus not deserving of warrant protection. Instead, the government has argued it should be able to get such messages with a mere subpoena. I hope that this scandal will finally kill off this inaccurate myth about hiding emails from the government. General Petraeus should have known better—placing documents in an email “drafts” folder is not an effective way to hide things from the government. It wasn’t 10 years ago, and it certainly isn’t anymore."

"The guest lists from hotels, IP login records, as well as the creative request to email providers for “information about other accounts that have logged in from this IP address” are all forms of data that the government can obtain with a subpoena. There is no independent review, no check against abuse, [B]and further, the target of the subpoena will often never learn that the government obtained data (unless charges are filed)"[/B]

:thinking: could this be the sort of thing that would be revealed once CWW arrives in FL and charges are officially "filed"?
 
  • #173
It's interesting to me that if MS was SOOO proud of his wife (as Skinner said)....and couldn't quit talking about her....why then does MS NOT have a pic of his beloved TS as his FB profile? Hmmm.....
 
  • #174
I have believed from day 1 that MS is involved and also believe one coworker. jmo

ITA, concernedmom. And, I wonder if anyone else was involved based on tidbit talk we heard from the dedicated Sheriff Scott.
 
  • #175
I've placed an order recently for my supplements. The website, wording, etc. was the same as in previous orders. I don't see any changes.
It looks like the website is on the up and up to me too!
 
  • #176
It's interesting to me that if MS was SOOO proud of his wife (as Skinner said)....and couldn't quit talking about her....why then does MS NOT have a pic of his beloved TS as his FB profile? Hmmm.....

But one of MS's profile pics IS of his beloved TS..... in fact a gorgeous photo of her. It appears he alternated his profile pics between his beloved TS and another pic of he and his two girls playing in the snow.
 
  • #177
I still feel her phone call to MS upon arriving to Florida was the signal. So I wonder how did MS act or behave from the time of the signal to the time of being notified she died. Did he seem a bit nervous? Looked at his phone too often? Pacing? Did he keep away from family to hide any possible signs of his behavior being out of the normal? Did MS go to extra lengths asking Teresa to make sure she calls him upon getting back to Florida? Perhaps she replied in some joking manner about his insistence of her calling.

Why I tend to go back to that phone call is it could have been to let CWW and JR know it was a green light and move ahead with the plan. What did MS do after ending his call with Teresa I wonder?

CWW and JR knew she was at home so how did they know that? Well, they weren’t expecting anyone to be at the house. So why not rob the home sooner when they know the family was gone. CWW worked for them so surely he knew their office schedule. He is a friend of MS and perhaps through conversation had learned of the planned vacation.

I was debating with myself to see how could I get past that phone call. How did those two know she was at home? Was that phone call the signal?

Of course, that leads me down the “why?” path. Why would MS want to kill his wife? What is he hiding?

Debt comes to mind if she was unaware of their finances if MS handled it all. Things could have gotten out of hand and he started to panic in fear of TS finding out.

An affair is possible but I don’t see MS wanting to give up that lifestyle with Teresa. Did he suspect she was having an affair and thought it was the person he phoned to find her?

Was he seduced by the promise of more money and greater success with someone else at the steering wheel? Sometimes even the action of others is telling and I wonder what the hidden meaning is behind some of their words.

The why is still a mystery but that phone call, in my opinion, started the chain of events that had been planned out to occur.

ITA. I always thought it was strange MS and TS checked in at the airport that night, but not when she got home. And while I don't think women need to be "checking in" with their husbands, sometimes I can't help but think safety first! When I travel, my parents worry. I recently flew from Boston to Tampa and my parents wanted me to check in when I landed, called them from the airport and they were like ok great, you landed, call us when you get IN your hotel, then they would be able to sleep soundly. I know a parent's worry is not the same as a husband's, but still. Why not make sure she arrived home safely. If there was no check in at all, that would be less odd than just the airport check in IMO. JMO.
 
  • #178
ITA. I always thought it was strange MS and TS checked in at the airport that night, but not when she got home. And while I don't think women need to be "checking in" with their husbands, sometimes I can't help but think safety first! When I travel, my parents worry. I recently flew from Boston to Tampa and my parents wanted me to check in when I landed, called them from the airport and they were like ok great, you landed, call us when you get IN your hotel, then they would be able to sleep soundly. I know a parent's worry is not the same as a husband's, but still. Why not make sure she arrived home safely. If there was no check in at all, that would be less odd than just the airport check in IMO. JMO.
I don't think it's been confirmed where
TS was when she called MS that night.
 
  • #179
ITA. I always thought it was strange MS and TS checked in at the airport that night, but not when she got home. And while I don't think women need to be "checking in" with their husbands, sometimes I can't help but think safety first! When I travel, my parents worry. I recently flew from Boston to Tampa and my parents wanted me to check in when I landed, called them from the airport and they were like ok great, you landed, call us when you get IN your hotel, then they would be able to sleep soundly. I know a parent's worry is not the same as a husband's, but still. Why not make sure she arrived home safely. If there was no check in at all, that would be less odd than just the airport check in IMO. JMO.

I never really found it strange, and she may have called 5 mins from home for all we know. IMO she probably felt the dangerous part of her trip was the flight, not the traveling familiar roads and arrival home because who would imagine there'd be someone lying in wait inside the sanctity of ones home. Just unimaginable.
 
  • #180
After last night's show I have a theory that law enforcement has everything they need to arrest MS. I think it is possible that they are not arresting MS because they are still needing more to arrest another person involved. IMO they are monitoring every move he makes in hopes that he will make a mistake giving them the evidence they need for another arrest in the case.
I also think it is possible that he will be arrested by the time CWW is brought to Florida, because then a lot of the documents will have to be released.
 
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