Dr. Teresa Sievers - Motives and Theories (Including MS speculation)

[debbiegarcia36]

This is what I believe as well.

Re: your first sentence - Mark Sievers is nobody's victim. I'm not buying that for a minute either.

I'll give credit where credit is due though - Mark is smarter and savvier. And I believe he is a master manipulator.

That could be why he has been able to avoid trouble with the law.

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[wondering25]

Can someone tell me what the talk about Kentucky was that someone mentioned a few posts back? TIA

 

[DexterMorgan]

And I also don't buy anything about him feeling bullied or tormented into standing by his bigger (or smaller?) blood brother. To me, the simplest, most plausible explanation is that they are more alike than dissimilar. Not just in looks, but in values and upbringing and survival skills--by that, I mean, what they will do to make things work, to make things okay, to cover up what's necessary, and to acquire success.

Thanks to the sleuthy sleuths here, we know it is clear that these guys are incredibly intertwined and always have been. (MS was engaged to CWW's wife's aunt at some point? I am getting that right?)

The percentage of their lives that they spent as besties dwarfs the time that MS has known TS. I think, like old war buddies, these guys were in the trenches together and can understand each other better than anyone else in the world--only, these were the trenches of badness--RB, for starters, and meth, what else?--and they still accepted each other nonetheless. As whacked as it is, that is true friendship. "I'll be there..."

Two low lives grew up together and supported each other. One was able to put on charades to marry someone who could elevate his status in the world and probably wouldn't accept the REAL MS. I suggest that in his life with TS he was living a lie and riding coattails to success, but in his life with CWW, he could let his "hair" down.

Lovely post. Agree 1 million percent. Very spot on indeed. I couldn't have said it better myself. Nor will I attempt. Thanks a million.

 

[Cricket99]

Can someone tell me what the talk about Kentucky was that someone mentioned a few posts back? TIA

Possible scattering of RB skull from MO to KY.

 

[fancyfree]

Lovely post. Agree 1 million percent. Very spot on indeed. I couldn't have said it better myself. Nor will I attempt. Thanks a million.

Dexter Morgan, You are spot on! This brotherly love between MS and CWW reminds me of my old neighborhood, as I was growing up. We had the cool/bad boys in the 'hood who were worshiped by the more conservative kids.

Most of my old friends have found professional success in life and yet, when we get together, as we recently did for a friend's funeral, we are right back in our glory days of being too cool to care about consequences. We would do anything for each other. The ties that bind from teenage "cool" years can be VERY powerful! JMO

 

[wondering25]

TS wouldnt be the first successful, professional, educated woman who became dominated, mesmerized, and love struck where it concerns a man. Women, by nature are fixers. They just are. Moms kiss boo boos and make them go away. The maternal instinct spills over into every aspect of their life. Sometimes, the man is equal to the station the woman has reached in life.. sometimes not. Women want to nest..Someone like TS who is already in the" caring and making it better" field might find MS very attractive. He "looks strong" has a good line, and just enough faults that she can work on them to repair them but not so many that they (in her eyes) are insurmountable. And. let's face it folks..people live in denial..are afraid of failure and stick it out longer than they might for the sake of the kids.

MS having all these fringe friends was part of the package. TS either didnt care, wasn't aware, or was powerless to do anything. In reality, she probably had no idea just how deep this "friendship" was with its secrets and dark connections.

A man marries a woman hoping she will never change. A woman marries a man hoping he WILL change. Inevitably, they are both disappointed.

Anything i write is just my opinion

 

[debbiegarcia36]

TS wouldnt be the first successful, professional, educated woman who became dominated, mesmerized, and love struck where it concerns a man. Women, by nature are fixers. They just are. Moms kiss boo boos and make them go away. The maternal instinct spills over into every aspect of their life. Sometimes, the man is equal to the station the woman has reached in life.. sometimes not. Women want to nest..Someone like TS who is already in the" caring and making it better" field might find MS very attractive. He "looks strong" has a good line, and just enough faults that she can work on them to repair them but not so many that they (in her eyes) are insurmountable. And. let's face it folks..people live in denial..are afraid of failure and stick it out longer than they might for the sake of the kids.

MS having all these fringe friends was part of the package. TS either didnt care, wasn't aware, or was powerless to do anything. In reality, she probably had no idea just how deep this "friendship" was with its secrets and dark connections.

A man marries a woman hoping she will never change. A woman marries a man hoping he WILL change. Inevitably, they are both disappointed.

Anything i write is just my opinion

Well said!

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[IQuestion]

I went through all of the pictures from the wedding that have been discovered. I did not see JR in any of them. There was one picture that looked like JR and possibly his girlfriend (who would have been heavier from just having a baby) but it was in no way definitive and leaned more towards it not being him/them.

Thanks AmazonRain...I was prepared for that answer. So, had my "back up thoughts prepared"....
1200 miles is a long way to drive....especially if you have to do a 4 day turn around. I only use my passport for ID when I fly/cruise out of the country. If I had a "doppleganger" they could use my DRIVERS LICENSE THE ENTIRE TIME... I am not using it. CWW uses MS Drivers Lic, just in case he is stopped by police any where along "points in between." And the car they were using, could have been (or rented by JRR)....
because this statement was SO ODD...." "Jimmy was always hanging around with Wayne," she said, adding that Rodgers helped the family from time to time, offering transportation." Of everything a person could say about a man who just got arrested for beating a womn to death...."offering transportation"? really? (I must always caution, newspaper articles are edited and I am not privy to what was removed before it was published.)
And although this is about the "Bobbsey Twin Photo...it kind of crosses over to JRR thread, too. Can I post in 2 places, without breaking up this theory?)

 

[atthelake]

Thanks AmazonRain...I was prepared for that answer. So, had my "back up thoughts prepared"....
1200 miles is a long way to drive....especially if you have to do a 4 day turn around. I only use my passport for ID when I fly/cruise out of the country. If I had a "doppleganger" they could use my DRIVERS LICENSE THE ENTIRE TIME... I am not using it. CWW uses MS Drivers Lic, just in case he is stopped by police any where along "points in between." And the car they were using, could have been (or rented by JRR)....
because this statement was SO ODD...." "Jimmy was always hanging around with Wayne," she said, adding that Rodgers helped the family from time to time, offering transportation." Of everything a person could say about a man who just got arrested for beating a womn to death...."offering transportation"? really? (I must always caution, newspaper articles are edited and I am not privy to what was removed before it was published.)
And although this is about the "Bobbsey Twin Photo...it kind of crosses over to JRR thread, too. Can I post in 2 places, without breaking up this theory?)

How many posters say the same thing I was thinking to post!! They say it much better as you do. the change of passport and ID or drivers license is something I thought of but I have never posted thank you

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[Wing Ding]

How many posters say the same thing I was thinking to post!! They say it much better as you do. the change of passport and ID or drivers license is something I thought of but I have never posted thank you

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Hmm... are some WS'ers theorizing that Curtis Wright, in an attempt to disguise his own identity, could have traveled from Missouri to Florida and back using Mark Sievers' drivers license?

If Mark Sievers was on vacation out of the state, wouldn't he need his drivers license for identification purposes to fly, rent a car, check into hotels, have it while driving in the event of a traffic accident or at the very least verify his credit card(s) at restaurants?

Also... I know the two men look like bookends now, but if Sievers' drivers license is nearing its expiration date, would Wright pass for what Sievers looked like six, eight or perhaps ten years earlier when his picture was last taken at the DMV?

I guess it's possible for Sievers to have reported his driver's license as lost, and had gotten a replacement D/L so both he and Wright would each have one, but what innocent reason could Wright have given Sievers that he needed to use his buddy's D/L for himself instead of just using his own?

 

[Eileen730]

Hmm... are some WS'ers theorizing that Curtis Wright, in an attempt to disguise his own identity, could have traveled from Missouri to Florida and back using Mark Sievers' drivers license?

If Mark Sievers was on vacation out of the state, wouldn't he need his drivers license for identification purposes to fly, rent a car, check into hotels, have it while driving in the event of a traffic accident or at the very least verify his credit card(s) at restaurants?

Also... I know the two men look like bookends now, but if Sievers' drivers license is nearing its expiration date, would Wright pass for what Sievers looked like six, eight or perhaps ten years earlier when his picture was last taken at the DMV?

I guess it's possible for Sievers to have reported his driver's license as lost, and had gotten a replacement D/L so both he and Wright would each have one, but what innocent reason could Wright have given Sievers that he needed to use his buddy's D/L for himself instead of just using his own?

IMO it would be very easy for CWw to assume MS identity. Not for driving!

 

[Eileen730]

Did the neighbor see CWW or MS?

 

[Riversinthedesert]

Did the neighbor see CWW or MS?

IIRC, the neighbor mentioned she saw Florida plates but I don't have a link for that.

 

[Fldrew]

Did the neighbor see CWW or MS?

The neighbor also said that he was driving a car with Florida plates.

 

[KateB]

From some research I did yesterday, best I can tell on the "license plate" part, is it was thought to have been heard by members on Nancy Grace, but was never verifiable by any transcript or video recording. So the neighbor saying she sighted Mark is verifiable from multiple sources but I'm still not able to verify the license plate part of it. It may have been a WinkNews live broadcast aired only in the local market is my other theory.

 

[creepingskills]

Hmm... are some WS'ers theorizing that Curtis Wright, in an attempt to disguise his own identity, could have traveled from Missouri to Florida and back using Mark Sievers' drivers license?

If Mark Sievers was on vacation out of the state, wouldn't he need his drivers license for identification purposes to fly, rent a car, check into hotels, have it while driving in the event of a traffic accident or at the very least verify his credit card(s) at restaurants?

Also... I know the two men look like bookends now, but if Sievers' drivers license is nearing its expiration date, would Wright pass for what Sievers looked like six, eight or perhaps ten years earlier when his picture was last taken at the DMV?

I guess it's possible for Sievers to have reported his driver's license as lost, and had gotten a replacement D/L so both he and Wright would each have one, but what innocent reason could Wright have given Sievers that he needed to use his buddy's D/L for himself instead of just using his own?

I don't have a firm enough theory regarding a possible identity switch, but I do wonder if CWW possessed a valid driver's license. IIRC he required 'transportation' assistance from JW. IMO, JR's role in the murder started off as being 'transportation' assistance since CWW didn't have a license, JR needed to drive.

On the other hand, it wouldn't be hard for MS to obtain a replacement license. The process would likely take two weeks. Do a big favor for his brother. They look enough alike, and IMO, the scam would work (for at least a little while). I'm embarrassed to admit that I know this but, I watch the Real Housewives and a husband on the show was arrested for doing exactly this; using his (real) brother's license because his license was revoked and he wanted to drive.

 

[FelicityLemon]

From some research I did yesterday, best I can tell on the "license plate" part, is it was thought to have been heard by members on Nancy Grace, but was never verifiable by any transcript or video recording. So the neighbor saying she sighted Mark is verifiable from multiple sources but I'm still not able to verify the license plate part of it. It may have been a WinkNews live broadcast aired only in the local market is my other theory.

When asked about the neighbor saying she saw MS at JR's home, Sheriff Scott said something like "I heard what the neighbor said. She said what she said. " I remember the quote, am looking for link.

 

[FelicityLemon]

I don't have a firm enough theory regarding a possible identity switch, but I do wonder if CWW possessed a valid driver's license. IIRC he required 'transportation' assistance from JW. IMO, JR's role in the murder started off as being 'transportation' assistance since CWW didn't have a license, JR needed to drive.

On the other hand, it wouldn't be hard for MS to obtain a replacement license. The process would likely take two weeks. Do a big favor for his brother. They look enough alike, and IMO, the scam would work (for at least a little while). I'm embarrassed to admit that I know this but, I watch the Real Housewives and a husband on the show was arrested for doing exactly this; using his (real) brother's license because his license was revoked and he wanted to drive.

That could help to switch drive because isn't it something like a 20 hour drive?

 

[No it's not]

When asked about the neighbor saying she saw MS at JR's home, Sheriff Scott said something like "I heard what the neighbor said. She said what she said. " I remember the quote, am looking for link.

Here:

http://www.winknews.com/2015/09/04/...w-sievers-murder-suspect-was-linked-to-crime/

 

[Bobbywoo]

The neighbor also said that he was driving a car with Florida plates.

I wish the article would have mentioned the make and model of the car as well.