Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found, #2

[rosesfromangels]

If the remains were found in that big culvert pipe thingy, then it would definitely look like a homicide right? Or would an animal make one of these into a home?

I need to again point out that MR was talking about culverts on Tricias radio show when she asked him where he had been searching. Maybe this was the information LE needed.

Ah! Thank you Lordeebee, you answered my question about the culverts. Funny how our subconscious manifests itself....or is MR psychic?! Pffft.

 

[Mitsana]

Why did Dylan stop texting on his cell phone and switch to his Ipod Touch pad when he used his cell phone all day Sunday to communicate with his mother and friend? Dylan had unanswered text messages on his cell phone after 8:01 pm Sunday evening and MR has not explained why Dylan switched to his IPod which was in his backpack. None of Dylan's personal belongings were found at Mark's house and tmk LE did not find Dylan's Ipod there did they?

Ryan and Elaine didn't hear from Dylan after 8:01 pm and LE didn't say who the texts went to or how many were sent so who was Dylan texting and why?

MOO

MOO: I believe Dylan was prevented from texting after 8:00 or so by MR. I believe MR confiscated his phone bc Dylan kept texting his friend instead of paying attention to him. Frankly, that is something I've done to my daughter more than once (when I need to hash something out with her). But Dylan had a new Ipod touch with texting ability. These Ipods with texting ability had just come out, if I understood other posts in this forum. I believe Dylan went into his backpack and got his Ipod out, removing the sweatpants that were on top to get at it (which is where the sweatpants came from that are mentioned in the search warrant). I believe that MR did not realize at first that when Dylan was fiddling with his Ipod that he was actually texting. I believe that when MR realized he was texting (still/again), he was probably even more angry. Maybe he just confiscated the Ipod at 9:37 and things went bad later, or maybe the confrontation happened around then.
IMO. MOO.

 

[Crosby87]

Unless it was an emergency meeting with a criminal attorney because he needed representation?

I don't think so. Mark told MB he saw his lawyer Monday morning regarding the papers his lawyer had filed regarding his divorce from Elaine.

It wasn't until after Dylan was reported missing and Mark began receiving death threats and failed his polygraph (or was told it was inconclusive) that he said he felt the need to consult with a criminal lawyer. MOO

 

[Dr. Know?]

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[Mitsana]

Which imo if this were premeditated, MR would have planned to get him on the cameras, refused to allow him to go to his friends that eve, told Dylan he would drop him off to his friends at a ridiculous morning hour which a no show would be a excusable if Dylan overslept, made sure he had (unwarranted) appts in town Monday morning, waited too many hours to look for Dylan, too many hours before notifying police, and finally Elaine. This all occurred in less than 24 hours and on a normal time frame of when they got to MRs most of it would have been sleeping.

IMO: I do think the "coincidence" of Mark having a significant appointment in town, forcing him to leave early in the morning the day after Dylan (most likely) died is a strong argument in the favor of premeditation. If the death was an accident, MR would have been very lucky to have this slack prearranged. I do believe I am biased against premeditation, just because I don't "get" that level of malice.

FWIW, I don't understand why MR would think it important for Dylan to be seen on camera (esp in his obvious foul mood). And MR would wait as long as possible to notify everyone if he were covering up an accidental death instead of premeditation murder, so the delays don't argue in favor of premeditation instead of accident to me.

But if it were premeditated, it might help account for the lack of physical evidence (blood), since MR could choose the means ahead of time.

So, the timing and convenience of the appts do make me think premeditation is a serious possibility. I just have a hard time envisioning MR (or anyone for that matter) deteriorating that much, even though it does happen.

 

[Helenstreet]

Practicing Wiki-psychology is not going to solve this case. IMO.

Have you considered that some people who post on this thread may in fact have a background in psychology?

 

[Janeumayer]

http://denver.cbslocal.com/video/9041384-dylan-redwines-father-says-hes-been-accused-in-teens-death/

Attached is the pic of where Dylan's partial remains were found.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Have you considered that some people who post on this thread may in fact have a background in psychology?

The only verified psychology professional that I've seen post here is PensFan.

 

[margarita25]

BBM above.
Some say MR's 'failure' to say something to the effect- 'I want to find the person responsible for Dylan's death'
is evidence of MR's involvement in Dylan's death.

The thing is -- we don't know what was edited out from that interview
For all I know, MR said that exact thing, multiple times during that interview,
but the reporter or producer chose to use the above sound bite in the broadcast segment.

Parent saying - I want to find the person responsible for killing my child =
less newsworthy /less quotable than
parent saying - I think x or y is what led to my child's death.

"MR did not say it" (want to find child's killer)?
or
MR said it, but it was edited out by reporter or producer.
-----------------------------------------------

My point is about flawed reasoning process in cases generally, from one interview--
concluding that parent's failure to express this desire = evidence of involvement.

In this case, MR has been interviewed by broadcast & print MSM many times.
Many posters here say MR has not expressed this desire in any interview.
Last night I watched both Dr. P. Feb. shows, and if MR said it there -
in a long interview, where he had time to express it, I missed it.

MR's responses re taking polygraph exam speaks volumes to me.

I thought about this, that maybe his direct reference to a perp might not have made the final edit. But I would think that would be a major thing to quote, unless the media is trying to paint him a certain way...

 

[margarita25]

So, they found his shoe and shirt today??? Omg...

http://www.9news.com/news/article/343443/339/Investigators-look-for-clues-in-Redwine-

"LA PLATA COUNTY - Investigators were back out on Middle Mountain Wednesday afternoon, searching for additional clues that could lead them to Dylan Redwine's killer.

<snipped for copyright rule> Along with Redwine's remains, detectives also found the boy's shirt and one of his shoes."

if they found his full shirt, and are not referring to the previous fragment found earlier, then this is big! Could have evidence!!!

 

[margarita25]

Also from the above link:
http://www.9news.com/news/article/343443/339/Investigators-look-for-clues-in-Redwine-case

"On Wednesday, La Plata County Sheriff's Spokesman Dan Bender told 9NEWS the community should not be alarmed that a killer is on the loose, but he wouldn't elaborate past that."

 

[katydid23]

So, they found his shoe and shirt today??? Omg...

http://www.9news.com/news/article/343443/339/Investigators-look-for-clues-in-Redwine-

"LA PLATA COUNTY - Investigators were back out on Middle Mountain Wednesday afternoon, searching for additional clues that could lead them to Dylan Redwine's killer.

Some of the 13-year-old's remains were discovered on a desolate side of Middle Mountain last week. Along with Redwine's remains, detectives also found the boy's shirt and one of his shoes."

I think that is just sloppy reporting, and probably nothing else was found today. JMO

 

[rosesfromangels]

Omg is right margarita. Please lets all pray for Elaine and Cory. I cant fathom the pain they must be experiencing.

 

[Annie1004]

Unless it was an emergency meeting with a criminal attorney because he needed representation?

It was his family law attorney, not a criminal attorney. Two different breeds.

 

[Ghostwheel]

http://denver.cbslocal.com/video/9041384-dylan-redwines-father-says-hes-been-accused-in-teens-death/

Attached is the pic of where Dylan's partial remains were found.

Sorry to be picky, but they did not say he was actually found there, they just implied it with video footage of that specific area. Take no offense, I'm just odd with facts.

 

[cluciano63]

I am not reading it as though anything was found today.

 

[Ghostwheel]

I think that is just sloppy reporting, and probably nothing else was found today. JMO

The question, though, is was this reporting sloppy, the previous reporting on Mark's statement sloppy or just Mark's statement sloppy?

 

[Janeumayer]

So, they found his shoe and shirt today??? Omg...

http://www.9news.com/news/article/343443/339/Investigators-look-for-clues-in-Redwine-

"LA PLATA COUNTY - Investigators were back out on Middle Mountain Wednesday afternoon, searching for additional clues that could lead them to Dylan Redwine's killer.

<snipped for copyright rule> Along with Redwine's remains, detectives also found the boy's shirt and one of his shoes."

if they found his full shirt, and are not referring to the previous fragment found earlier, then this is big! Could have evidence!!!

It does not state when does items were found. Maybe they were found earlier.

 

[Helenstreet]

If they do and they're throwing out diagnoses from third and fourth hand information, and via the 'gut feelings' of others, then they better hope they aren't licensed to practice.

Better yet, we all

hope they aren't licensed to practice.

JMO.

I agree. However, I have not noticed anyone making a diagnosis of MR, only speculations. But, I haven't been able to read every post either.

 

[Dee10]

Anything is possible. I would tend to speculate that this was all planned since it's just so highly coincidental that Dylan disappeared without a trace so shortly after he arrived.....and if it had of been an accidental anger kill, I would think there would have been more evidence of that at his home or in his vehicle?

BBM - You brought up a good point that really made me think/consider that aspect as I have always thought it was "accidental", but it made me think if something happened in the "heat of the moment" wouldn't he have called 911 or had a different reaction?