Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found, #2

[Angelonline]

BBM

Where was it confirmed that the last text was from the iPod? I have not seen that from LE or in MSM. Do you have a link, please?

Thanks,

Salem

I think it was on Tricia radio show.. maybe someone else can confirm.

 

[katydid23]

I think it was on Tricia radio show.. maybe someone else can confirm.

Yes, mark confirmed that on one of the two radio interviews, but I can't remember which one.

 

[jjenny]

Has anyone considered that Dylan was killed elsewhere and the bones placed there later? Perhaps the remainder of the remains are somewhere completely different.

I have these random thoughts from time to time.

In my opinion, he was killed elsewhere then body placed on Middle Mountain. By someone who knew the Middle Mountain Road is closed for the winter.
I am not sure what would be the point of placing body in one place, then moving the bones.

 

[caffeinejean]

BBM

Where was it confirmed that the last text was from the iPod? I have not seen that from LE or in MSM. Do you have a link, please?

Thanks,

Salem

I guess you got me on that one Salem. It is not officially confirmed that the last text was on his iPod. But, IIRC it was Elaine who confirmed that it was his iPod touch on Tricia's show when asked. But then again, maybe she just confirmed it was an "iPod touch". I'll have to listen again as I don't think TxJan1971 transcribed that show. If anyone else remembers, I would appreciate it. Did Elaine mention it on DP also?

ETA On the 6/2 Tricia interview with Elaine, she said Dylan had an iPod touch, but does not say that it was used for the last 9:37 text. I did not listen to the whole interview this time, just about the iPods in question from the MR search warrant.

 

[Annie1004]

I have a feeling that tomorrow is going to be a big day for MR and LE. Why would he go back for more questioning if there wasn't a darn good reason on LE's part? I am almost afraid to check in during the next day or so. The fact Dylan was found ten miles away from MR's house is very telling, IMO, and that fact alone knocked me off the fence, although I STILL can't believe a family member could do something so horrendous. "But it was an accident and I panicked knowing his mother would freak out." I can almost hear the explanation. Tsk, tsk.

 

[cluciano63]

Why do I read FB...my brain hurts. It makes me sad when I see the grammar, spelling, etc. and I barely notice what has been posted, lol.

 

[MissJ]

JMO but I do believe LE has evidence and has had for some time and just had to wait til they could find the remains. Maybe they knew the general area. I don't know if an arrest is imminent but I do believe they have a suspect. I remember they (LE) didn't seem to be too concerned about the lake. JMO

 

[MissJ]

Is this the same road or no?

Middle Mountain Road Colorado - YouTube

Wow! Looking at this I'm amazed anything was found at all.JMO:moo::twocents:

 

[YidArmyRach]

Sorry I'm behind as usual and in catch up mode so, forgive me if this is already been thoroughly discussed..

IMO the reason that first comes to mind in questioning possibly why was it that the backpack, fishing pole, etc were not just disposed of with the body is the fact that if this murder was as some have theorized in it being IN NO WAY PREMEDITATED, BUT RATHER A SITUATION THAT WENT SIDEWAYS AND RESULTED IN DYLAN'S DEATH..IMO in that scenario I can see possibilities of there having been an escalation of tension between the two that at the time it peaked and Dylan ended up dead that they were NOT IN THE HOME, but rather either en route to or from somewhere and while they were away from the home that it is then that the escalation peaked resulting in his death.

In such a scenario it would have Dylan separated from his belongings at the time of his death.. His belongings and fishing pole would be in the home with Dylan's death having taken place at a location away from the home..therefor you would have the possible hiding and disposing of the body immediately thereafter the death occurred .. Afterward in returning back to the home there would be the realization of all of his belongings and what and where would they be put, disposed of, or should they be left in the home..IMO a wide range of choices in what to do with his belongings and what choice would best suit the scenario that was going to be given as to how his son came to be "missing".. He left out with all his belongings?.. Or that he left out with nothing and his belongings were all in dad's home?.. Should some be taken and some left behind?..

As I said many many choices of what to do once the death had occurred away from the home and his body having immediately thereafter been disposed of or hidden..and then to arrive back home and realize the belongings were there and what was the best way to handle all of the belongings of Dylan's in dad's home.. IMO I actually can see how the fishing pole being removed came to possibly be in looking at a scenario such as these above where the death took place away from the home and that the issue of all of his belongings being in the home was an issue that came as an afterthought upon arriving home with his body already hidden..

In thinking about the various choices of what to do I can see his possibly thinking to throw in the fishing rod as only another afterthought in preparing on how the gone missing scenario was being conceived after the fact of Dylan's death and the body already hidden.. IMO I could see him thinking that the fishing pole would be a good explanation of where his son may have gone off "missing" to while he was out running errands..as well as it would also serve as a great diversion tactic of misleading investigators toward searching nearby water for his body in knowing that his body was not going to be located in those bodies of water..

IMO it also fits with the initial statements made early on by Mark in his stating he had from the get go been directing LE to search the lake due to the fact that Dylan's fishing pole was "missing" along with his son..in that scenario all misleading in knowing for certain his body would not be in those areas he was adamantly stating from the get go should be searched..

All jmo in looking at the possibilities of why Dylan's backpack, belongings, and the missing fishing pole were not found with or around him..JMO in giving scenarios of how or why this possibly could have happened *IF* Mark is responsible for Dylan's death.. Again MOO!

That just made me think ....... what if Dylan did actually get up to go with MR that morning - something could have happened before he used his phone. He was on track with his plans, so no need to be texting anyone, either at home, or along the route. I guess the battery could have died the night before, or he just fell asleep. If Dylan was taking all his stuff to his friends, then if something happened along the route, the backpack could be anywhere.

If we go along with the theories MR has, that Dylan went out that morning to kill a bit of time and got abducted, or someone came to the house and took him .... then the backpack should be in the house. There would be no need to hide it.

So, the only logical reason for the backpack not being at the house, are that something happened on the way back from the airport and Dylan never made it to the house ........... even though LE says that he did (are they trying to lull MR into a false sense of security to think they believe him?). Or Dylan took all his stuff with him Monday morning and whoever "took" him, dumped it somewhere else.

My opinion is that finding the backpack might unlock the answers - it would prove if Dylan ever opened it after ER packed it for a start.

All MOO

All MOO.

 

[windrower]

Middle Mountain Road is north and within sight of Vallecito Lake. The search area ranged from 8,000 to 11,000 feet altitude amid deep canyons and dense forest, the sheriff's department said in a news release.

Middle Mountain Road parallels the road that Mark Redwine lives on, and both roads take off from the north end of Vallecito Lake. The road Redwine lives on has houses, businesses and RV parks on it. Middle Mountain Road runs through rugged backcountry without any development.

http://newswithtags.com/Parent/denv...ound-near-vallecito-sheriff-says#.UdHB3xb3Ay4

If I'm not mistaken, I think you mean Vallecito Reservoir. Vallecito Lake is quite a bit further north, looks like a natural mountain lake. Most of us who have been following this case know where you meant, but others may get confused. (Someone else posted a map showing MR's house in relation to Vallecito Lake, which doesn't have any bearing on this case.)

 

[katydid23]

That just made me think ....... what if Dylan did actually get up to go with MR that morning - something could have happened before he used his phone. He was on track with his plans, so no need to be texting anyone, either at home, or along the route. I guess the battery could have died the night before, or he just fell asleep.

The only problem I have with that theory is that if we go along with the theories MR has, that Dylan went out that morning and got abducted, or someone came to the house and took him .... then the backpack should be in the house. There would be no need to hide it.

All MOO.

The backpack is a key factor IMO. I know you can make a case for him taking his backpack if he thinks the visitor came to give him a ride to town. But I don't understand why he would pack every single thing with him. Didn't he at least have some dirty socks left behind?

 

[windrower]

I noticed camping but not in the snow. Also noticed large road grates (drainage) on the long video posted above (11:35 long). It was about at the 7:10 mark. In the snow mobile video, there's a road grate at about 1:00.

I'm not caught up on reading this thread, so this may have been noted. What you are calling road grates are cattle guards, which prevent cows from using the road to move from one pasture to another. The guards are used across the roads at a fence line rather than having a gate drivers would have to open and close. Many national forests in the west offer forest leases, which allow ranchers to use the forest as a summer range.

 

[asyousay]

Another thing about the random person who could of given Dylan a lift that morning .

How many people would of known Dylan was in town ? (Excluding Dylan's friends who could not drive due to age)

 

[cluciano63]

Another thing about the random person who could of given Dylan a lift that morning .

How many people would of known Dylan was in town ? (Excluding Dylan's friends who could not drive due to age)

And how many adults did he even know near MR's house? He would have to know them pretty well, IMO, to blow off his dad and go with someone else, and not let anyone know. So that should have been a very short list to clear.

 

[La Louve]

I have to wonder why he brings up the gates. He didn't know they were there until recently? So how did he find out? How does he know gateS plural? Weird.

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Seems like more deflection. I would think a good prosecution would include the fact that Dylan's body was disposed of on a road that was known to be closed in the winter, thus delaying and minimizing the chance of finding his remains.

And the defendant would say "I didn't even know there were gates there!".

IMOO

 

[rosesfromangels]

In my opinion, he was killed elsewhere then body placed on Middle Mountain. By someone who knew the Middle Mountain Road is closed for the winter.
I am not sure what would be the point of placing body in one place, then moving the bones.

I tend to agree with your hypothesis. Why did those dogs keep hitting on the lake? I seem to recall LE scouring an area close to shore. Perhaps the deadly act occurred at the lake. The firensic report will be very telling. Even with fragments they will be able to determine alot. Does anyone know if MR was a hunter? Apologies if this has akready been covered.

I guess we will see if there is an arrest today. IMO, there will be.
Stay strong Elaine and Cory. So many are praying for your strength. Justice will prevail.

 

[JustJeannie]

Didn't his friend say on Tricia's radio show that he had shown her that road and told her that it was closed in the winter? I think I remember that, and my apologies if my memory is wrong. I have to get ready for work, and don't have time to check it out right now.

 

[Eileen730]

Didn't his friend say on Tricia's radio show that he had shown her that road and told her that it was closed in the winter? I think I remember that, and my apologies if my memory is wrong. I have to get ready for work, and don't have time to check it out right now.

Yes Teresa said that. he told her that road was closed!

 

[Kamille]

There are numerous photos and videos of Middle Mountain Rd on the internet from both locals and people who have visited and vacationed in the area. I would imagine it is well known to the locals as the best place to go to get beautiful views of the reservoir and surrounding area. Kind of a "lookout point" for lack of a better term. There is no way MR wasn't familiar with this road, what was on it, and hadn't travelled up it many times in the past IMO.

 

[Eileen730]

I tend to agree with your hypothesis. Why did those dogs keep hitting on the lake? I seem to recall LE scouring an area close to shore. Perhaps the deadly act occurred at the lake. The firensic report will be very telling. Even with fragments they will be able to determine alot. Does anyone know if MR was a hunter? Apologies if this has akready been covered.

I guess we will see if there is an arrest today. IMO, there will be.
Stay strong Elaine and Cory. So many are praying for your strength. Justice will prevail.

If not today it will be soon!