Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found, #2

[Ghostwheel]

I'm also very glad they are looking for more.

Regarding the reports of a shoe instead of a sock and laces (which is what MR said), I wonder if it is just sloppy reporting, based on a mis-remembrance of what MR said.

No....not sloppy reporting...sarcasm, there. So far, I have seen so many times several articles based on the same interview with completely different directions taken by whichever reporter, I take everything in MSM with a grain of salt.

 

[kkdj]

Yes. Mark told MB in his uncut interview they bought a few groceries to tide them over while they decided what to do for Thanksgiving.
He said he just returned home from Silver City and didn't have much food in the house.

He said Dylan threw two DVD's into the cart and some snacks but we don't know if they were eaten. Mark said Dylan brought the DVD player downstairs and together they watched one of the movies they purchased called "Adventureland" Sunday evening but he couldn't concentrate on the movie and was busy doing things in the kitchen.

LE may have released more information on what was purchased at Walmart but this is all I know.

MOO

Wasnt Dylans flight delayed a day? So, MR would have had time to go to the store because he would have been home the day before. Am I correct on how long for the flight delay? If so, then maybe MR wanted to make sure Dylan was on the cameras at Walmart.

 

[Ghostwheel]

Ditto! Me too!
I would tell the truth ...all of it, even if i was busy smoking crack and boinking the pizza delivery guy. ( not that i do or would) I'd beg to take the polygraph, I'd offer hair and blood samples. The quicker they eliminate me, the quicker they could focus on finding my child! Id want Every available officer searching and follow up leads. That's priority!!!! For the innocent. IMO

It brings to mind the Danielle Van Dam case where the parents just let their "dirty laundry" air. They told the entire truth to LE because it was more important to get their daughter back, no matter how it made them look.

 

[Crosby87]

Based on my personal experience, if a person with emotional problems hasn't received any professional help or support by the time they reach their fifties, their mental condition becomes critical. It is called a mid-life crisis and MR is in his early fifties. MOO

 

[asyousay]

I dont take sloppy reporting into account when its Mark IMO that can twist the facts to suit his own ends.

As i said last week his friend was on the radio and Elaine shouted Murderer at him and then it became muttered which is odd as i have no idea how if she muttered it he would of heard when she was in a car i think it was said?!

Also Dylan was dead to the world when he left home and then it became Dylan acknowledged him when he left home.

These are not sloppy reporting errors and is Mark changing events in his story time and time again.


:moo:

 

[Crosby87]

Wasnt Dylans flight delayed a day? So, MR would have had time to go to the store because he would have been home the day before. Am I correct on how long for the flight delay? If so, then maybe MR wanted to make sure Dylan was on the cameras at Walmart.

That's right. Initially Dylan was scheduled to arrive on Saturday so Mark had time to shop and prepare for Dylan's visit but he chose not to.

MOO

 

[cindysue]

He would have had time to do some of his errands too maybe

 

[mymadori]

Dylan was sitting on the end of the couch texting with somebody and I argued that and argued that and argued that and argued that. Now I'll be quite honest with you, I don't know if he was texting on his phone or if he was texting on his ipod, it later came out that apparently he was texting on his ipod. I didn't he the way he was sittin I couldn't see what device he was using, all I did was argue over and over and over and over again with law enforcement that he was sittin on the edge of the couch and he was texting his friends and he was doing something so ya know again I don't know the

device that he was on. But ya know I argued.


FROM JUNE SECOND RADIO SHOW --------it later came out he was texting on his iPod.

I was thinking about this further just now- in context with the what IF he really didn't make it to his dad's OR LE feels like he wasn't at his dad's for long.

The comments MR made above seems to jive with an idea that LE don't believe Dylan was ever at his house, or feel that he wasn't at his house for long. Follow me here....

So let's say LE is trying to confirm Dylan was ever at his house. We know they didn't have any scent items from Mark's house... so the next way they can validate Dylan was there past 8 pm is by looking for cell phone activity from Dylan's phone coming from MR's house.

If they were to ask MR " What did you and Dylan do while he was here?"
and he responded "we tried to watch a movie, but he was texting the whole time"... and LE said "we checked the records Mark, and there is no cell phone pings from Dylan's phone from here at your house". Maybe the only explanation Mark could give was that it must've been sent from the iPod which doesn't ping???

I mean... why would Mark be "arguing and arguing" with law enforcement that Dylan was texting someone from the end of the couch unless they don't BELIEVE Mark that Dylan was texting someone from the end of MR's couch?

 

[Ghostwheel]

I dont take sloppy reporting into account when its Mark IMO that can twist the facts to suit his own ends.

As i said last week his friend was on the radio and Elaine shouted Murderer at him and then it became muttered which is odd as i have no idea how if she muttered it he would of heard when she was in a car i think it was said?!

Also Dylan was dead to the world when he left home and then it became Dylan acknowledged him when he left home.

These are not sloppy reporting errors and is Mark changing events in his story time and time again.


:moo:

I completely agree with you on that. There is no doubt that Mark's story has changed several times. I just don't trust the articles anymore, either. I suppose I just take it all in, mix it around, then come up with my own conclusions based on the quality of the articles or reporting. (I am not a Melissa B fan, for example)

 

[tezi]

It brings to mind the Danielle Van Dam case where the parents just let their "dirty laundry" air. They told the entire truth to LE because it was more important to get their daughter back, no matter how it made them look.

Yes, I felt so bad for them. But, getting their daughter back was the most important thing for them.

JMO

 

[Lordeebee]

http://www.9news.com/news/article/343443/339/Investigators-look-for-clues-in-Redwine-case

If this was a homicide, then there IS a killer on the loose! Sure wish they'd hurry and get their ducks lined up :-o

 

[Dee10]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/coroner-remains-dont-reveal-how-dylan-redwine-died

Last week, authorities announced DNA confirmed bones recovered during a five-day search in high, rugged terrain off Middle Mountain Road were Dylan's. They were found in a drainage less than 10 miles from his father's home, where he reportedly disappeared.

"The information we have is there is no reason for Dylan to go to Middle Mountain and there is no indication he did it on his own," sheriff's spokesman Dan Bender said.

Bender said there were a few sheriff's investigators on Middle Mountain Wednesday, but they were just doing follow-up work. All major searches in the area for any additional evidence or remains have been suspended.

Early in the missing person case, investigators said they had determined that Dylan did not run away. Authorities have not explained how they reached that conclusion.

What does "were found in a drainage" mean?I am not familar with that term, TIA.

 

[Ghostwheel]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/local-news/coroner-remains-dont-reveal-how-dylan-redwine-died









What does "were found in a drainage" mean?I am not familar with that term, TIA.

In one video (Post [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=9628018&postcount=138"]# 138[/ame] over on the Media thread and somewhere back in this thread) there is a drainage culvert (one of those big concrete tube things) that the helicopter zoomed in on . This MIGHT be what they are talking about. Or they could be talking about any drainage area on the mountain.

 

[cluciano63]

LE is saying the same thing "no need to worry, isolated case" about the little girl whose body was found in the road in TX...and yet no arrest and asking the public for help. That is BS. LE has no business, IMO, telling a community they can feel safe until a suspect is locked up.

 

[kkdj]

That's right. Initially Dylan was scheduled to arrive on Saturday so Mark had time to shop and prepare for Dylan's visit but he chose not to.

MOO

Which imo if this were premeditated, MR would have planned to get him on the cameras, refused to allow him to go to his friends that eve, told Dylan he would drop him off to his friends at a ridiculous morning hour which a no show would be a excusable if Dylan overslept, made sure he had (unwarranted) appts in town Monday morning, waited too many hours to look for Dylan, too many hours before notifying police, and finally Elaine. This all occurred in less than 24 hours and on a normal time frame of when they got to MRs most of it would have been sleeping.

 

[Mitsana]

I mean... why would Mark be "arguing and arguing" with law enforcement that Dylan was texting someone from the end of the couch unless they don't BELIEVE Mark that Dylan was texting someone from the end of MR's couch?

MOO: I believe MR is actually telling the truth on this point. He saw Dylan texting on his Ipod and argued with LE that Dylan had been texting later on in the evening (much to his annoyance, probably). LE, in the mean time, had the cell records that showed Dylan stopped sending texts from his cell phone around 8:00 (I think MR confiscated it or perhaps there wasn't good reception in parts of the house). So, until it occured to LE that Dylan had used a different device, they would be argue about it.

If MR had killed Dylan earlier, he wouldn't argue that Dylan had kept texting. Surely he'd know LE could get the cell records. He'd make his story fit the cell phone record. IMO. MOO.

 

[Ghostwheel]

MOO: I believe MR is actually telling the truth on this point. He saw Dylan texting on his Ipod and argued with LE that Dylan had been texting later on in the evening (much to his annoyance, probably). LE, in the mean time, had the cell records that showed Dylan stopped sending texts from his cell phone around 8:00 (I think MR confiscated it or perhaps there wasn't good reception in parts of the house). So, until it occured to LE that Dylan had used a different device, they would be argue about it.

If MR had killed Dylan earlier, he wouldn't argue that Dylan had kept texting. Surely he'd know LE could get the cell records. He'd make his story fit the cell phone record. IMO. MOO.

As a possibility, Mark could have made a big deal about Dylan texting to "prove" Dylan was there and texting that "late". People who go to sleep early and get up early don't always realize there are a lot of us who go to bed late and can still get up early.

 

[Crosby87]

He would have had time to do some of his errands too maybe

Most businesses are open Monday through Friday so I doubt Mark could have visited his lawyer or employer on Saturday.

 

[cluciano63]

I have never thought Dylan's death to be planned, if MR is the culprit. My belief is that his personality is such that an anger issue could be created quickly and with minimal provocation.

 

[Lordeebee]

In one video (Post # 138 over on the Media thread and somewhere back in this thread) there is a drainage culvert (one of those big concrete tube things) that the helicopter zoomed in on . This MIGHT be what they are talking about. Or they could be talking about any drainage area on the mountain.

If the remains were found in that big culvert pipe thingy, then it would definitely look like a homicide right? Or would an animal make one of these into a home?

I need to again point out that MR was talking about culverts on Tricias radio show when she asked him where he had been searching. Maybe this was the information LE needed.