Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found

[Kimster]

Don't know if you guys saw this, but Imamaze made a condolences thread. :grouphug:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213789"]Condolences for Dylan's Family and Friends - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community[/ame]

 

[margarita25]

I was thinking out loud earlier, but after more thought, I doubt its likely the use of any fire was involved. Too risky both environmentally and visually.

There definitely must not have been any pre mortem wounds indicative of an animal on the remains that were found.

There must be an article somewhere which talks more about the basis on which animal activity is officially ruled out.

I'm thinking they found something else, or have something else, and it is major to the investigation. Because yes, the area is steep, Dylan didn't likely go out there on his own, but this is still circumstantial, not forensic evidence, to classify the case as a homicide. (The defense could make so many arguments, both plausible and ridiculous, as to why Dylan could have been out there).

LE is quick to rule this a homicide, when they are really under no obligation to do so quickly (look at the Elisa Lam case....).
(But then they basically say the public shouldn't fear a predator??)

I guess what I'm saying is LE has more than they're letting on. Good. Hope the perp is shivering in his pants enjoying his last few moments of freedom.

 

[Leader6518]

One of my boys would do that if I didn't watch him 24/7. He was my more challenging child.

The issue here is that I don't think LE would say this was a homicide without having some evidence to the fact. Like I said, I really wanted to believe he ran away and got lost and succumbed to the elements, but LE is saying that's not what happened. They would not just say that without cause, IMO.

I agaree. Although, Mark may not have been shown or told about everything found, my thoughts keep going back to shoelaces with no mention of shoes. Were they in a knot that indicated Dylan may have been bound? Also, the scattering of his belongings. I believe Bender said in the video link posted earlier, they found items that led them to believe they needed to extend the search. They found stuff in different ravines.

Just the circumstances of where things are located and the condition could tell them whether it was an accident or murder. all MOO!

 

[Ghostwheel]

Would a random abductor know that area well enough to feel comfortable navigating it with a dead child's body in his vehicle?

Would a murderer, trying to dump a dead body, want to drive up into an area with only one way out and one way in, knowing there are much easier places to get out of the immediate area? It doesnt make sense to me that a random stranger abduction would end up in that location.

What about the deputy that was arrested on child charges? He would be familiar with the area, he wouldn't be a danger if he is still in prison (darned if I can remember) or is under surveillance by LE.

I don't buy someone who doesn't know the area, but what about a person with a vacation cabin? They would know the area, but not necessarily always be in the area. I just want to be sure that all possibilities are considered.

If the area where the body was found is where I think it is, someone could pull over, and put the body there pretty easily. The location is they key, to me. How random would it have to be for someone to just happen to pick exactly that location that overlooks Mark's house? That's where stranger abduction exits for me.

 

[lillygator]

Isn't this the most we have heard from Mark since Dylan went missing?

 

[Ghostwheel]

Forensics thread over here:
[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213819"]http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213819[/ame]

Thank you, Cold Hands

 

[margarita25]

I have a question. What if the policeman charged with child did have something to do with this. Would LE be so embarrassed that this would affect their investigation and its results? (nevermind, dumb question, surely they'd hold him responsible even if it was an embarrassment to the Dept.) I guess what I'm saying here is I want an official statement that this "police officer" has been ruled out. I think that's fair. (If there is a statement like this, then sorry if I missed it...I know Cheese said he/she was looking daily...).

 

[margarita25]

Forensics thread over here:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=213819

Thank you, Cold Hands

Great. Thanks Cold Hands, Kimster and Ghostwheel.

 

[cocomod]

Bears go into hibernation in October or November and do not emerge until March - May (depending on area). They would not have been scavenging when Dylan went missing. When they first emerge from their den, they do not begin with "big" meals. They start small until their digestive system gets into full swing. They would not be a factor here until June. They really would be eating berries and ants rather than larger meals.

Mountain lions would also be in the area. Although they are less likely to be seen by humans - less concern when a human is walking - they could be a factor here.

 

[asyousay]

I can still never get past Dylan not communicating after 9:37pm on the Sunday . It was out of character for him and then I am also meant to buy the fact he slept in on Monday as well ?!

If Dylan had reached out to anybody on Monday morning I would believe that he could of been snatched by a random weirdo. But the facts remain that there is no proof that Dylan survived Sunday night :moo: :cow: :moo:

 

[Geneva]

I appreciate reading everyone's ideas on this.

I'm afraid that my mind has been made up since the very beginning, so I am incapable of being impartial.

Hubby, with his cop's mind, and I have bickered about Dylan's case quite a few times.

 

[margarita25]

And Mark was nice enough to warn his friend Teresa or be careful of the wild animals when she was at his house. It was enough of a concern to bring up to his adult friend.

Yes he did. Yes it was.

 

[Lordeebee]

And how often, exactly, would a 12-13 yr old boy venture by himself, into that remote area, which was full of cougars, mt. lions and bear? Even the searchers were armed for their own protection.

Yet Mark tells us that his young son would OFTEN venture into that dangerous area, all by himself, unarmed, with no emergency supplies, and not leave a note saying where he was going?

MR told his friend T to be careful just when stepping out the front door, yet he would allow Dylan (often) to wander into the woods?

 

[*Lash*]

Was it not said on the radio show by Teresa that coyotes got at Dylan ?

Yes it was said in a very descriptive manner. In my opinion, it was absolutely sickening and disheartening.

 

[katydid23]

Didn't Mark's ex gf, that spent the Holidays there once when Dylan was visiting, say that Dylan 'was lazy' and never got up from the couch and his video games? Am I remembering that right?

 

[ColdHands]

The deputy made bail but I cannot find anything that says when or if he's going to trial.

My theory:
Dylan putzed around the house Monday morning, cereal, tv, etc. Closer to 11, he got his stuff together and went outside to wait for his dad. Someone he knew came by, saw him, saw an opportunity, stopped to talk. Got him into the vehicle. It may have been an adult or it may have been some younger folk (CRs age, for instance. Old enough to drive but young enough that Dylan might know them).

The perp would turn off MRs road and head east after only a few minutes to get to Middle Mountain Road, so MR would not have seen him as he was driving up.

Purely theory. Does not explain the no-contact Monday morning, but I'm ok with that although I recognize that it is a more important fact for others here on WS.

I think information about any vehicles in the area would be critical. I hope LE has information that will help.

 

[ColdHands]

I appreciate reading everyone's ideas on this.

I'm afraid that my mind has been made up since the very beginning, so I am incapable of being impartial.

Hubby, with his cop's mind, and I have bickered about Dylan's case quite a few times.

It would be interesting to know what your hubby's cop mind is thinking

 

[asyousay]

Didn't Mark's ex gf, that spent the Holidays there once when Dylan was visiting, say that Dylan 'was lazy' and never got up from the couch and his video games? Am I remembering that right?

Was that Teresa who was on the show last night ?

 

[*Lash*]

The deputy made bail but I cannot find anything that says when or if he's going to trial.

My theory:
Dylan putzed around the house Monday morning, cereal, tv, etc. Closer to 11, he got his stuff together and went outside to wait for his dad. Someone he knew came by, saw him, saw an opportunity, stopped to talk. Got him into the vehicle. It may have been an adult or it may have been some younger folk (CRs age, for instance. Old enough to drive but young enough that Dylan might know them).

The perp would turn off MRs road and head east after only a few minutes to get to Middle Mountain Road, so MR would not have seen him as he was driving up.

Purely theory. Does not explain the no-contact Monday morning, but I'm ok with that although I recognize that it is a more important fact for others here on WS.

I think information about any vehicles in the area would be critical. I hope LE has information that will help.

I could very much follow this theory if it wasn't for the lack of phone communication. I followed the same theory for quite awhile but kept coming back to the communication. I truly believe Dylan would have communicated with his dad or a friend before he gathered his belongings and headed outside. He would have at the least responded to R's message. I have watched a young one close to me text on their phone and IPod simultaneously.

 

[margarita25]

The deputy made bail but I cannot find anything that says when or if he's going to trial.

My theory:
Dylan putzed around the house Monday morning, cereal, tv, etc. Closer to 11, he got his stuff together and went outside to wait for his dad. Someone he knew came by, saw him, saw an opportunity, stopped to talk. Got him into the vehicle. It may have been an adult or it may have been some younger folk (CRs age, for instance. Old enough to drive but young enough that Dylan might know them).

The perp would turn off MRs road and head east after only a few minutes to get to Middle Mountain Road, so MR would not have seen him as he was driving up.

Purely theory. Does not explain the no-contact Monday morning, but I'm ok with that although I recognize that it is a more important fact for others here on WS.

I think information about any vehicles in the area would be critical. I hope LE has information that will help.

Indeed. Hopefully someone remembers or saw something.

In addition, I'm afraid if there were also any tire tracks (vehicle or atv) and/or footprints, they would have been destroyed by the snow and its melting?