Dylan Redwine Case Discussion Thread/Dylan's Remains Found

[SCHMAE]

I think MR , intentionally or no ( you be the judge) has spent 7 months building the nearly perfect NGRI defense ! Thoughts?

 

[Ghostwheel]

I just want to jump off this post for one second

Mark is claiming now " Elaine muttered murderer at him" . Was it not that she shouted it at him on the radio show ??

Once again, I am amazed at how some people act. Mark is going to be dang sure that he tells everyone he heard Elaine call him a murderer. Ad nauseum. I can only shake my head.

 

[Teslababy]

im so glad you mentioned the percentage quotes from MR in your post hurley.

"Mark Redwine said investigators told him they had found only four or five of his son's bones."

"Ninety-eight percent of Dylan is scattered about the countryside," said Redwine

http://www.denverpost.com/recommended/ci_23553442

i could be reading too much into it but these statements really standout to me.

wheres the other 2% of the body? its so specific. JMO

 

[vasportsmom]

I am assuming there is something in that last message due to the fact it has not been released and we have no idea who Dylan even sent it to.

R has released the convo he had with Dylan that night via text. But the remaining message is a complete mystery .

ETA - I wonder if Mark even knew the iPod touch had texting capabilitys ?!

:moo: :cow:

I'm a couple pages behind but I think that last message must be important - either it addresses whatever was going on in the home that night or they have reason to believe that it wasn't sent by Dylan.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

i think mr , intentionally or no ( you be the judge) has spent 7 months building the nearly perfect ngri defense ! Thoughts?

ngri?

 

[vasportsmom]

The fact that his own son (Corey) is suspicious of his father in what he would do to Dylan speaks volumes to me. I have no followed MR very closely and what all he did surrounded the missing date but just that single fact is really all it takes for me to think he could possibly be involved.

That has always spoke volumes to me. Those that know Mark best - Elaine, AzGrandma, Corey & Az's sons with Mark all believe him to not only be capable of harming Dylan but actually guilty of having done so.

 

[Ghostwheel]

ngri?

Not guilty by reason of insanity

 

[vasportsmom]

I think MR , intentionally or no ( you be the judge) has spent 7 months building the nearly perfect NGRI defense ! Thoughts?

Honestly I think he would walk through fire before he ever allowed himself to be presented as anything other than the finest example of male superiority.

 

[eileenhawkeye]

Not guilty by reason of insanity

I don't see how Mark's actions would help him get a NGRI defense. The defendant has to go through extensive testing, and members of both of the medical and legal community must make the decision. It is not common at all for someone to be able to use a NGRI defense. Two cases I can think of with the NGRI defense was Andrea Yates and James Holmes. In both of those cases, the killer admitted what they did immediately after their killing spree was done. There was no coverup. If Mark did it, he was able to hide the body, and lie about it for 7 months, so he knows what he did was wrong.

 

[SCHMAE]

Agreed Eileen, but many people have a skewed idea of what it means. They think if someone acts ' crazy' then theyre legally ' insane' . KWIM
He may think he'd get it .

Also I wonder if someone somehwere said ( and im about to look it up ) that is a certain % of the body is all that is found, nothing can be proven? Is that even possible ? It's curious the 98% . I thought when I heard it , that was odd. Why not say most or almost all or very little, why 98% ?

 

[my_tee_mouse]

Not guilty by reason of insanity

That duck don't fly, and that dawg won't hunt, hard as they might try. But IMO his ego won't let his attorneys go down that road anyway. Now an "inmf...tammdi*" defense...you betcha.


*"It's not my fault...they all made me do it!"

 

[asyousay]

I wonder if Mark will go to the candle light vigil tonight in Bayfield .

 

[AnotherSetOfEyes]

That has always spoke volumes to me. Those that know Mark best - Elaine, AzGrandma, Corey & Az's sons with Mark all believe him to not only be capable of harming Dylan but actually guilty of having done so.

Beyond that, I am wondering if Elaine and Cory may have been provided more information by LE than anyone else. I don't think this was just a lucky find by LE. (JMO) The teams called in for the search were too specialized and I do not think LE would put the kinds of resources required to gather that level of expertise, if they were not pretty sure that this was the area they would likely find Dylan. Elaine and Cory may have known the reason for this particular search. What they know may have cemented their earlier suspicions of MR's involvement.

 

[Foxfire]

First time posting here, so please bear with me. What's been eating at me is has law enforcement ever publically looked at anyone BESIDES Mark Redwine? (and I know he has never been publically identified as a POI or suspect) The search warrant was pretty public so I ASSUME if they looked at anyone else someone would have known. As of now they claim they wanted to search this area early on so who else could they have suspected back then other than Mark

HurleysRUS, perceived hypothesis, is one of the primary reasons that missing persons' investigations grow cold; choosing a suspect and forging the evidence to fit.. Perceived hypothesis is why the Adam Walsh case went cold for almost three decades..

With that said, I haven't followed Dylan's case that closely. After the news of his recovery, I began scanning the threads and noticed a few very disturbing revelations; Dylans' disappearance was initially treated as a runaway by LE. There was no Amber Alert issued for Dylan.
Critical/valuable time was squandered by investigators in the first few hours and days, focusing on his father, imo..
The stats indicate a stranger or slight acquaintance abduction when a child of Dylan's age vanishes..

 

[cluciano63]

Dylan had been supposedly missing up to nine hours before being reported missing and there were none of the Amber Alert criteria. Also, MR presented the case to LE as if Dylan had wandered off, telling them to knock him on his head and send him home if they saw him. So it is hard to blame LE, IMO.

And certainly, most teens who go missing are not victims of abductions, IMO. Nor was Dylan, most likely. JMO

 

[asyousay]

HurleysRUS, perceived hypothesis, is one of the primary reasons that missing persons' investigations grow cold; choosing a suspect and forging the evidence to fit.. Perceived hypothesis is why the Adam Walsh case went cold for almost three decades..

With that said, I haven't followed Dylan's case that closely. After the news of his recovery, I began scanning the threads and noticed a few very disturbing revelations; Dylans' disappearance was initially treated as a runaway by LE. There was no Amber Alert issued for Dylan.
Critical/valuable time was squandered by investigators in the first few hours and days, focusing on his father, imo..
The stats indicate a stranger or slight acquaintance abduction when a child of Dylan's age vanishes..

Dylan did not fit the criteria for a amber alert , hence one not be issued

 

[morrow68]

One thing that has bothered me is the missing fishing pole. I don't remember, but did LE ever mention anything about the fishing pole? Seems like LE would say he had a fishing pole with him, It just comes off as MR trying to keep attention on the lake and not elsewhere IMO.

 

[AnotherSetOfEyes]

HurleysRUS, perceived hypothesis, is one of the primary reasons that missing persons' investigations grow cold; choosing a suspect and forging the evidence to fit.. Perceived hypothesis is why the Adam Walsh case went cold for almost three decades..

With that said, I haven't followed Dylan's case that closely. After the news of his recovery, I began scanning the threads and noticed a few very disturbing revelations; Dylans' disappearance was initially treated as a runaway by LE. There was no Amber Alert issued for Dylan.
Critical/valuable time was squandered by investigators in the first few hours and days, focusing on his father, imo..
The stats indicate a stranger or slight acquaintance abduction when a child of Dylan's age vanishes..

BBM - Dan Bender said at one time (paraphrasing) that LE owed it to Dylan to look at all angles. While runaway was considered, I don't think it was given too much weight. I would agree with you that MR was a focus and I think the search warrants pretty much say what LE was thinking. Abducted or harmed in abduction. If LE lost any time, I think they had good reason. They had prior knowledge of the family. Their first thought may have been that MR had hidden Dylan. History may have played a part in that. That being said, I really do not think LE wasted any significant time. Looking at the terrain involved and the vast area in which Dylan could have been, it is either a miracle that his remains were found or excellent LE work. I choose the latter. (JMO)

 

[Foxfire]

Dylan had been supposedly missing up to nine hours before being reported missing and there were none of the Amber Alert criteria. Also, MR presented the case to LE as if Dylan had wandered off, telling them to knock him on his head and send him home if they saw him. So it is hard to blame LE, IMO.

The time lapse before a child goes missing is normally about 2+ hours and it is not the responsibility of the father of the missing child to initiate a missing child investigation..
Most State Law Enforcement Agencies have a CARD Team & other resources available immediately upon request.

and/or Federal Resources upon request..
Criminal Pursuit: The FBI Child Abduction Team
http://investigation.discovery.com/...inal-pursuit-the-fbi-child-abduction-team.htm

 

[margarita25]

My crazy ex husband broke into my house and murdered my beloved cat in 2005. He left his blood all over the sliding glass door, fur and bullet holes all over the back yard.

His explaination?

He wanted me to feel what it was like to lose what I loved.

Different than one of my children, but the same general idea.

:grouphug: