Ebola outbreak - general thread #4

[SweetT]

http://m.livescience.com/48141-how-doctors-test-for-ebola.html
However, this test can be negative during the first three days an infected person has symptoms, said Dr. Sandro Cinti, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Michigan Hospital System/Ann Arbor VA Health System.
"Somebody could be in the hospital for three to five days before a diagnosis [of Ebola] is confirmed," Cinti told Live Science. "The important thing is keeping the patient isolated until you can get to a diagnosis." Meanwhile, doctors will be running tests to rule out other diseases, such as malaria, which can be detected more quickly than Ebola, he said.

 

[nrdsb4]

www.livescience.com/48141-how-doctors-test-for-ebola.html
These Dr's say you can test negative for ebola for three days after symptoms appear..

Sorry on phone having trouble copying link

Yeah, that link doesn't work for me.

 

[Lyra500]

Someone asked about how long blood test results take to come through.

I know another FM advised that the test takes 48 hours - and that is certainly the time I have seen reported on a number of occasions (including the British guy in Macedonia), but I had a feeling I had also seen results reported as coming through in less time as well.

This is from the WHO website, so one would hope it is accurate (although I don't think I would bet my house on the reliability of anything at the moment!) In their report about the Spanish nurse:

Samples were collected and sent for testing to the National Reference Laboratory on 6 October 2014. Results were positive for Ebola virus on the same day.

http://www.who.int/csr/don/09-october-2014-ebola/en/

So - if the Spanish labs have a test which can return same day results, why isn't everyone using it? Price perhaps, but are some economies really worth it? Wouldn't it be better to get confirmation one way or the other as soon as possible?

 

[okiedokietoo]

Hello-
I can't find any update about his family nor any of the "x" number of people that are being monitored. CNN was speaking with the girlfriend via telephone 'couple of days ago but now...nothing although statement attributed to her are being released. Anyone found a site that has current status of any other quarantined people other than a news article just saying "contacts being monitored"

 

[faw720]

^^^If it's in the medical record, it's true. It still doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know, does it? His loved ones already had plenty of reason to be upset, so how does this change that?

This was the first time that I heard Mr. Duncan had 103 temperature. I think that's a pretty high temperature for an adult. If I went to an ER with temp of 103, I would hope that the doctors would examine me thoroughly & ask lots & lots of questions.

As for Mr. Duncan's loved ones, I've seen, some but certainly not all, people on this very website say that the family was nothing more than ungrateful whiners who were looking special treatment. It now appears that they knew a lot more than we did.

 

[faw720]

Hello-
I can't find any update about his family nor any of the "x" number of people that are being monitored. CNN was speaking with the girlfriend via telephone 'couple of days ago but now...nothing although statement attributed to her are being released. Anyone found a site that has current status of any other quarantined people other than a news article just saying "contacts being monitored"

I've also been wondering about that. I do hope that they are all still well!

 

[Yoda]

8,376 cases
4,024 deaths
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-29577175

 

[SStarr33]

This was the first time that I heard Mr. Duncan had 103 temperature. I think that's a pretty high temperature for an adult. If I went to an ER with temp of 103, I would hope that the doctors would examine me thoroughly & ask lots & lots of questions.

As for Mr. Duncan's loved ones, I've seen, some but certainly not all, people on this very website say that the family was nothing more than ungrateful whiners who were looking special treatment. It now appears that they knew a lot more than we did.

They did a CT scan etc...they spent 4 hours with him. Sounds like he got a VERY thorough exam.

 

[Sonya610]

http://m.livescience.com/48141-how-doctors-test-for-ebola.html
However, this test can be negative during the first three days an infected person has symptoms, said Dr. Sandro Cinti, an infectious-disease specialist at the University of Michigan Hospital System/Ann Arbor VA Health System.
"Somebody could be in the hospital for three to five days before a diagnosis [of Ebola] is confirmed," Cinti told Live Science. "The important thing is keeping the patient isolated until you can get to a diagnosis." Meanwhile, doctors will be running tests to rule out other diseases, such as malaria, which can be detected more quickly than Ebola, he said.

Photo above is from your link.

Apparently the scientists at the CDC working with the Ebola virus treat it as a "Biosafety Level 4" threat (that is the highest level).

Thank goodness only the scientists at the CDC need to take those precautions when dealing with Ebola; the rest of us general public folks have nothing to worry about and can completely relax.

 

[SweetT]

I've also been wondering about that. I do hope that they are all still well!

My daughter is in Dallas right now and said she saw on tv that the Duncan's family was planning on moving again.. Out of state? She said she heard out of state..

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Viewer survey re: airport screening for Ebola symptoms featured on the homepage of WDIV (NBC, Detroit) today. Scroll down the page until you see the survey on the right hand margin. http://www.clickondetroit.com/

 

[Lyra500]

Photo above is from your link.

Apparently the scientists at the CDC working with the Ebola virus treat it as a "Biosafety Level 4" threat (that is the highest level).

Thank goodness only the scientists at the CDC need to take those precautions when dealing with Ebola; the rest of us general public folks have nothing to worry about and can completely relax.

They were just showing a report on the UK news about how 'totally ready' the NHS was. They were filming in a hospital in Manchester and showing a man in his 'PPE' and I was thinking "Are you sure that's enough?"

He had a very spiffy complete see-through visor thing over his face, but just a blue cap - no hood. So his whole neck area was potentially exposed at the side and back. I think I would want a hood over the top as well - surely one can't be too careful about things like that?

 

[Sonya610]

Well we can either spend now and halt outbreaks, or pay later.

Somehow I think we can find the money to pay to halt it now.

This isn't about money. It is about taking precautions to stop the spread in unaffected countries.

I did read that some U.S. official plans to meet with some South American leaders (or secretaries, or just some folks that are employed by goverments in South America) next week, and Ebola will be a topic that will likely come up.

What a joke.

 

[faw720]

They did a CT scan etc...they spent 4 hours with him. Sounds like he got a VERY thorough exam.

Well, I guess I just don't understand how they missed the Africa/Ebola connection. Possibly at that time no one realized that Ebola would/could surface here in the US.

Then it could just have been an uncaring doctor. There are some of those around. Many years ago my mother who had dementia was living with me. Lots of things did not necessarily make sense but I could definitely tell when something was physically wrong with her. It seems that medical problems really blossom on the week-end, so I took her to the ER. In the presence of my mother the doctor literally got in my face & screamed, "She has dementia. You surely don't expect me to treat that!". I have to admit that at that moment I had murder in my heart. No to be deterred I took her to another hospital ER. She was diagnosed with a UTI & already had a septic infection & had to spend a week in the hospital.

 

[faw720]

My daughter is in Dallas right now and said she saw on tv that the Duncan's family was planning on moving again.. Out of state? She said she heard out of state..

I think Duncan's mother & brother are here from North Carolina. As for Louise & her family I don't think they would be allowed to move anywhere until the 21 days is up.

 

[SweetT]

I think Duncan's mother & brother are here from North Carolina. As for Louise & her family I don't think they would be allowed to move anywhere until the 21 days is up.

I wouldn't think so either so maybe after their quarantine time. Sounds like it Could be to North Carolina if they have relatives there already.

 

[LinasK]

The Associated Press @AP · 13m13 minutes ago

BREAKING: Records given to AP show Ebola patient was released from ER after registering 103-degree fever.


The Associated Press @AP · 10m10 minutes ago

MORE: Ebola patient arrived with 103-degree fever, told nurse he had been in Africa: http://apne.ws/1D18ae3

Okay, then clearly this doctor screwed up.

 

[popsicle]

NBC News ‏@NBCNews 2m2 minutes ago
Watch Live: Spokeswoman for the family of the first Ebola patient to die in U.S. holds a briefinghttp://nbcnews.to/1xz295e

 

[Ladylub]

Watching the press conference on http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/health/E...278805231.html?_osource=SocialFlowFB_DFWBrand

You would not be sent home with 103 fever.... Since when? They give medicine and if it doesn't come down that is when you go back and they do more. The ER is just that for emergencies if you are not dying due to your fever they will send you home. Especially if nothing else seems to be going on.

 

[LinasK]

^^^If it's in the medical record, it's true. It still doesn't tell us anything we didn't already know, does it? His loved ones already had plenty of reason to be upset, so how does this change that?

No, I didn't know he had a fever of 103! That's pretty darn high. His family doesn't have a reason to claim racism or that he didn't get ZMapp or a blood transfusion- there was no ZMapp and he wasn't a match. I've yet to see any words of gratitude for what they were given.