Ebola outbreak - general thread #4

[KALI]

http://dtolar.wordpress.com/2014/10/01/ebola-a-nurses-perspective/

A nurses perspective on ebola.. I hope it's OK to post if not please delete.. Very good read.

WOW. That is horrific. I sure wish someone could get Obama to read this!!!!!

 

[Elley Mae]

American Ebola Survivors Are Likely Immune to Virus Strain Now

http://www.livescience.com/47511-are-ebola-survivors-immune.html

It is not clear which biological factors may determine a person's chance of surviving Ebola, but a stronger immune system appears to be one important factor. Also, laboratory evidence suggests that some people with a genetic mutation may be entirely resistant to Ebola infection.

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http://addiandcassi.com/meet-children-resistant-contracting-hivaids-ebola/

Meet The Children Who Are Resistant To Contracting Ebola, HIV-AIDS

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http://en.ird.fr/the-media-centre/scientific-newssheets/337-possible-natural-immunity-to-ebola

 

[trigger]

OK Sky News has their video back online. Watch it now before it goes away again.

scroll down to the video-ebola on the frontline

http://news.sky.com/story/1351375/risk-from-ebola-in-us-cannot-be-cut-to-zero

++++Video is. extremely sad...Some graphic content ++++

 

[Sonya610]

The hospital on the other hand, is still here, and has a legal and ethical responsibility in the matter. No matter how any potential suit pans out, I would hope that they, and any other hospital and health department here in the US, is paying attention and learns from this.

Yes well I hope they are too, however I would not stake MY life OR the lives of my loved one on it.

Anyone that expects "them" to take care of us and be completely responsible when guarding our safety are seriously mislead, whether we live in the U.S. or in Africa.

 

[jjenny]

Our paper Had an article about Mr. Duncan's condition when he first went to the hospital. The article mentioned that the nurse entered a temperature of 103° when he was first received in the ER and that he had been to Africa and of course listed his other symptoms. The article also said that in the computer documentation a temperature of the hundred and 3° was highlighted with the red exclamation point. The! In documentation is a signal but something should or must be done. Funny that the doctors documentation indicated that he had no fever. The hospital change this story three times on what happened that might've caused us to Duncan to fall through the cracks. I suspect the nurse who triaged this patient was very vocal because it look like the blame was being put on her or him. This nurse probably had discussions with the hospitals risk management department. I want to complain to the risk management department of the hospital I worked in because a patient who had recently given birth was threatened in the emergency room that she would not receive any pain medication unless she went to a public hospital. This patient did not have any private insurance and was only covered by Medicaid, and she was distraught the whole time she was in the hospital after having her baby. If you don't think hospitals deliver preferential treatment you may be lucky that you never received it.

This article has good information on Duncan's course of treatment. It's unclear why Ebola was not suspected the first time he went to the hospital. But even the second time he went, he denied being around anyone sick. Even if he didn't know the pregnant woman had Ebola, he had to know she was sick. Now, despite what neighbors of the woman say, his nephew claims Duncan denied to him that he helped that pregnant woman.

http://www.theeagle.com/news/texas/...cle_11b4d58a-dc67-5153-b545-3e16debed0ae.html

 

[Sonya610]

:waitasec: huh?

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-sty...rse-improving-health-source-article-1.1970896

You mean because the drug is NOT U.S. made but made in Japan??

And it was developed to fight the flu? The flu thing sounds like good news for some of us.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2733587/Japan-ready-offer-flu-drug-Ebola-treatment.html

 

[fabvab]

I have been addicted to this thread but haven't been posting. I appreciate all the links and stories everyone has been providing.

Not sure if this belongs here, but this is an old Liberian Folk tale about death. I do think the moral of this folktale is appropriate for many of the threads on Websleuths. The CowTail Switch

https://teacher.ocps.net/kristin.wilkin/Cow-Tail%20Switch.pptx

 

[Sonya610]

This article has good information on Duncan's course of treatment. It's unclear why Ebola was not suspected the first time he went to the hospital. But even the second time he went, he denied being around anyone sick. Even if he didn't know the pregnant woman had Ebola, he had to know she was sick. Now, despite what neighbors of the woman say, his nephew claims Duncan denied to him that he helped that pregnant woman.

http://www.theeagle.com/news/texas/...cle_11b4d58a-dc67-5153-b545-3e16debed0ae.html

:goodpost:

 

[Sonya610]

I have been addicted to this thread but haven't been posting. I appreciate all the links and stories everyone has been providing.

Not sure if this belongs here, but this is an old Liberian Folk tale about death. I do think the moral of this folktale is appropriate for many of the threads on Websleuths. The CowTail Switch

https://teacher.ocps.net/kristin.wilkin/Cow-Tail%20Switch.pptx

That is one slightly creepy story. HTML link here: http://westafrikanoralliterature.weebly.com/the-cow-tail-switch.html

 

[Lyra500]

14 yo boy showing symptoms of ebola is being treated at Brookdale hospital, in Brooklyn, NY.

He was in Sudan for 2 weeks and apparently lied to authoritys so he could come home.

http://nypost.com/2014/10/11/brooklyn-teen-hospitalized-with-ebola-like-symptoms/

The boy did not lie.

Firstly, the article contains this:

Sources told The Post the boy may have lied on a sheet all travelers are required to fill out following trips to infected regions

So, no one actually said that he did lie. Some unidentified 'sources' are saying he 'may have' lied.

Secondly, those sources do not appear to have the least idea what they are talking about because no passengers flying from Sudan are going to be asked to fill out questionnaires because Sudan is not an infected region - it is on the opposite side of the African continent.

Really, really poor journalism which just fosters ignorance and negativity - unless he flew back to the US via Guinea, Sierra Leone or Liberia which seems highly unlikely. (IMHO).

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-AhL0R6dcldA/T8GmOoc28oI/AAAAAAAACJ4/JozodWHkA8I/s760/Map-of-Africa.jpg

 

[Gardenlady]

The boy did not lie.

Firstly, the article contains this:



So, no one actually said that he did lie. Some unidentified 'sources' are saying he 'may have' lied.

Secondly, those sources do not appear to have the least idea what they are talking about because no passengers flying from Sudan are going to be asked to fill out questionnaires because Sudan is not an infected region - it is on the opposite side of the African continent.

Really, really poor journalism which just fosters ignorance and negativity (IMHO).

Shows how poorly we do in the states with world geography. Quite embarrassing.


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[fabvab]

That is one slightly creepy story. HTML link here: http://westafrikanoralliterature.weebly.com/the-cow-tail-switch.html

But the moral of the story,"a man is not really dead until they are forgotten " is saying that you, "keep people alive by remembering them".

 

[Elley Mae]

Doctors ran CT scans of his head and abdomen and did extensive blood tests before deciding it must be sinusitis. They sent him home with a course of antibiotics and told him to follow up with a doctor the next day.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2014-10-11-13-28-20

"Pt states he has not been to any rural areas or funerals recently," he noted. "Pt denies any sick contacts. Pt denies chills. The pt does not do (sic) any other associated signs of sx (symptoms) at this time."

bbm

 

[Yoda]

You mean because the drug is NOT U.S. made but made in Japan??

And it was developed to fight the flu? The flu thing sounds like good news for some of us.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-2733587/Japan-ready-offer-flu-drug-Ebola-treatment.html

My huh? Was they have been saying there is no more zmapp.
But, it appears the company doesn't have any more zmapp- they gave it away. And it appears it wasn't all used by the govt or organizations they gave it to, so now we are still seeing infected medical personnel getting doses.

"ZMappTM is the result of a collaboration between Mapp Biopharmaceutical, Inc. and LeafBio (San Diego, CA), Defyrus Inc. (Toronto, Canada), the U.S. government and the Public Health Agency of Canada (PHAC)."

 

[Redux]

http://www.thelocal.es/20141009/health-of-nurse-with-ebola-is-worse-brother-madrid-spain

Spanish nursing assistant Teresa Romero, currently in a critical but stable condition after being infected with Ebola, is to undergo treatment with the experimental medication ZMapp, Spain's national government broadcaster RTVE reported on Friday.

Supplies of the drug have been shipped in from Belgium, the broadcaster said in reports that have yet to be confirmed.

The news comes despite recent media reports that global supplies of the drug had dried up.

Well that's disturbing, if not surprising.

Hoping that it's just leftovers from treating the priest there rather than someone not disclosing more zmapp available..

 

[XXXXXXXX]

It seems the Liberian government is desperate to keep reporters out of Ebola infected hospitals and clinics:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...risis-banning-journalists-health-clinics.html

 

[Redux]

I used to have a farm, so I have lots of pump sprayers and all types of gear that will help if the you know what hits the fan. I am jealous of your respirator and have not pulled the trigger yet at Amazon. I did, however, order some re-hydration powder.

I would like to request a photo of you suited up when you get all your gear:biggrin:

Could I ask what that's for?

 

[Elley Mae]

Could I ask what that's for?

Curiosity got me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedialyte

Pedialyte is similar to rehydration fluids used by the World Health Organization (WHO) such as "New Oral Rehydration Solution"

http://theboatgalley.com/rehydration-powder/

I have looked and looked for rehydration powder in the pharmacies here in the US and never found it. In Mexico, Central America, South America and Africa you can find the packets in every pharmacy . . . and lots of other places as well. Why not in the US?

And there — in the infants department but not in the pharmacy — was Pedialyte powder — in 4- and 8-packs.

 

[Sonya610]

Could I ask what that's for?

Dehydration due to vomiting, diarrhea, etc.. is a huge factor in Ebola deaths. The organs shut down in half the cases WITHOUT noticeable bleeding.

Electrolytes added to water are very important when treating dehydration.

Bags of sub-q fluids are ideal but most folks don't have those on hand, and they do expire.

 

[Redux]

Curiosity got me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedialyte

Pedialyte is similar to rehydration fluids used by the World Health Organization (WHO) such as "New Oral Rehydration Solution"

http://theboatgalley.com/rehydration-powder/

I have looked and looked for rehydration powder in the pharmacies here in the US and never found it. In Mexico, Central America, South America and Africa you can find the packets in every pharmacy . . . and lots of other places as well. Why not in the US?

And there — in the infants department but not in the pharmacy — was Pedialyte powder — in 4- and 8-packs.

Thanks!

I had googled it, but I didn't get what its use is for in this case.

But now that you posted the above, I'm thinking maybe for supportive treatment if you do get ebola?