Ebola outbreak - general thread #4

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  • #501
Curiosity got me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pedialyte

Pedialyte is similar to rehydration fluids used by the World Health Organization (WHO) such as "New Oral Rehydration Solution"

http://theboatgalley.com/rehydration-powder/

I have looked and looked for rehydration powder in the pharmacies here in the US and never found it. In Mexico, Central America, South America and Africa you can find the packets in every pharmacy . . . and lots of other places as well. Why not in the US?

And there — in the infants department but not in the pharmacy — was Pedialyte powder — in 4- and 8-packs.


Pedialyte is not some mysterious cure for Ebola, nor is it hard to find. It's a substance designed specifically to rehydrate infants. It may or not work for adults, but it's certainly not a cure for Ebola. Because of my chronic illnesses, I have constant problems with dehydration.

I can drink a gallon of water per day and my chronic dehydration isn't helped at all. I'm not sure why some people think that rehydration is a cure for Ebola?
 
  • #502
Dehydration due to vomiting, diarrhea, etc.. is a huge factor in Ebola deaths. The organs shut down in half the cases WITHOUT noticeable bleeding.

Additives that include electrolytes are very important when treating dehydration (add them to water).

Thanks. What a good idea.
 
  • #503
Dehydration due to vomiting, diarrhea, etc.. is a huge factor in Ebola deaths. The organs shut down in half the cases WITHOUT noticeable bleeding.

Additives that include electrolytes are very important when treating dehydration (add them to water).

Pedialyte is not some mysterious cure for Ebola, nor is it hard to find. It's a substance designed specifically to rehydrate infants. It may or not work for adults, but it's certainly not a cure for Ebola. Because of my chronic illnesses, I have constant problems with dehydration.

I can drink a gallon of water per day and my chronic dehydration isn't helped at all. I'm not sure why some people think that rehydration is a cure for Ebola?

I don't think anyone said it was a cure. Sonyas above explained what the purpose of it is.
 
  • #504
Pedialyte is not some mysterious cure for Ebola, nor is it hard to find. It's a substance designed specifically to rehydrate infants. It may or not work for adults, but it's certainly not a cure for Ebola. Because of my chronic illnesses, I have constant problems with dehydration.

I can drink a gallon of water per day and my chronic dehydration isn't helped at all. I'm not sure why some people think that rehydration is a cure for Ebola?

No one said it was a cure. Re-hydration powder was brought up, it is not available in the usa, the pedialyte powder is available in the usa but is not easy to find according to the link I posted. Yes Pedialyte is available and in lots of places too. jmo idk
 
  • #505
It seems the Liberian government is desperate to keep reporters out of Ebola infected hospitals and clinics:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...risis-banning-journalists-health-clinics.html

Maybe it's for the best. NBC crew exposed to Ebola wouldn't stay in quarantine, they had to be ordered. So Liberia preventing the journalists from being in the area will prevent the journalists from getting infected and potentially spreading it to others.

"An NBC News crew that worked with a cameraman infected with Ebola in Liberia has been ordered to undergo mandatory quarantine after it violated an agreement to self-confine, New Jersey health officials said."

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news...-Crew-Exposed-to-Ebola-Patient-278890231.html
 
  • #506
Pedialyte is not some mysterious cure for Ebola, nor is it hard to find. It's a substance designed specifically to rehydrate infants.

Dehydration is a major cause in Ebola deaths, the organs shut down when fluid starts leaking, blood pressure drops and then major organs fail.

It may not be a "cure" but it will certainly HELP!
 
  • #507
Pedialyte is not some mysterious cure for Ebola, nor is it hard to find. It's a substance designed specifically to rehydrate infants. It may or not work for adults, but it's certainly not a cure for Ebola. Because of my chronic illnesses, I have constant problems with dehydration.

I can drink a gallon of water per day and my chronic dehydration isn't helped at all. I'm not sure why some people think that rehydration is a cure for Ebola?

Two docs have cured themselves with re-hydration--Melvin Korkor and Ada Igonoh. Korkor also stated that he held his nose while he ate so he would not vomit
 
  • #508
Maybe it's for the best. NBC crew exposed to Ebola wouldn't stay in quarantine, they had to be ordered. So Liberia preventing the journalists from being in the area will prevent the journalists from getting infected and potentially spreading it to others.

Very true, but that is NOT why Liberia is clamping down on reporters.
 
  • #509
No one said it was a cure. Re-hydration powder was brought up, it is not available in the usa, the pedialyte powder is available in the usa but is not easy to find according to the link I posted. Yes Pedialyte is available and in lots of places too. jmo idk

Gotcha now. I read your previous post a bit too quickly. Sorry.


I will re-iterate though, that (as evidenced by its name alone) was designed as a pediatric substance to rehydrate infants. But you're confusing me. First you say that it's not available in the U.S., then you say it IS available (and it IS easily found here in the U.S. despite what you perceive).

I'm still not sure why some people think that simple rehydration is a cure for Ebola, though?
 
  • #510
Very true, but that is NOT why Liberia is clamping down on reporters.

Headline from Daily Mail:

Liberian officials accused of 'muzzling' reporters trying to draw worldwide attention to Ebola crisis after banning journalists from health clinics

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...journalists-health-clinics.html#ixzz3FrjFUyx5


Repetitive post, but maybe some didn't read the headline? Liberia no longer seems to want U.S. help so much as they want to cover up just how serious this is.
 
  • #511
I can remember reading an article which I think I linked to at the time, but it was probably about two or even three threads ago now. It was talking about Ebola and did mention something about people with a certain genetic profile potentially having a greater level of resistance to Ebola. I really wish I could remember more. I have tried checking my own posts but I can't scroll back far enough.

The NPC1 mutation?

http://www.livescience.com/47203-ebola-how-people-survive.html
 
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  • #513
Thanks!

I had googled it, but I didn't get what its use is for in this case.

But now that you posted the above, I'm thinking maybe for supportive treatment if you do get ebola?

The only tx there is for ebola is supportive tx
 
  • #514
Our paper Had an article about Mr. Duncan's condition when he first went to the hospital. The article mentioned that the nurse entered a temperature of 103° when he was first received in the ER and that he had been to Africa and of course listed his other symptoms. The article also said that in the computer documentation a temperature of the hundred and 3° was highlighted with the red exclamation point. The! In documentation is a signal but something should or must be done. Funny that the doctors documentation indicated that he had no fever. The hospital change this story three times on what happened that might've caused us to Duncan to fall through the cracks. I suspect the nurse who triaged this patient was very vocal because it look like the blame was being put on her or him. This nurse probably had discussions with the hospitals risk management department. I want to complain to the risk management department of the hospital I worked in because a patient who had recently given birth was threatened in the emergency room that she would not receive any pain medication unless she went to a public hospital. This patient did not have any private insurance and was only covered by Medicaid, and she was distraught the whole time she was in the hospital after having her baby. If you don't think hospitals deliver preferential treatment you may be lucky that you never received it.

Hi, I'd like to take issue with that. I'm on SSI and stuck with medicaid( better than nothing I guess). In Jan 14 I was sick for awhile and after quite awhile I ended up going to ER. Disclosure: I picked a really good hospital in my area to go to. So I thought. I also have Fibromyalgia, arthritis, severe snarkitis. I think they told me I might be contagious(BS), I ended up in a big beautiful private room for 6 days. But I was sick too, and drugged alot. Infection in my stomach, can't pronounce it, let alone spell it. I was sick so I didn't say much( I had no internet on my Obama phone:facepalm::laughing:, that's a luxury on SSI) but I got up 1 day was kinda walking around my room and I found a thermator box and stethscope(new box), unused. I was livid. I called a nurse down and asked where they came from and why they were never used on me? No answer. I wanted out, was I a patient or a Medicaid moneybag?

After 6 days I was so happy to get out and feel better, I let it go, the extra items, but I shouldn't have. The hospitals abuse the system. But my Grandaughter loved the stethscope, we listened to each other heart beats, and she can yell loud into too( snothead:loveyou:) Thanks Medicaid, I did get well, you got ripped off bigtime.

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This whole Ebola thing is making me crazy, but I'm not scared of getting it. I'm more afraid of getting sick again and Medicaid raiding the Gov. piggy bank or falling on my 🤬🤬🤬 on ice this winter than getting Ebola.
 
  • #515
Pedialyte is not some mysterious cure for Ebola, nor is it hard to find. It's a substance designed specifically to rehydrate infants. It may or not work for adults, but it's certainly not a cure for Ebola. Because of my chronic illnesses, I have constant problems with dehydration.

I can drink a gallon of water per day and my chronic dehydration isn't helped at all. I'm not sure why some people think that rehydration is a cure for Ebola?

My dad used to have that problem until I got him something called Ultima Replenisher.
 
  • #516
The only tx there is for ebola is supportive tx

Oh, I had known that, about there only being supportive treatment, I just wasn't making the connection that the powder would be used for the supportive treatment even though it really should have been obvious...

I guess my mind has been on prevention mode, thinking what one would buy to keep from getting the ebola, that I hadn't even thought of what one should have in case they actually got ebola!
 
  • #517
I don't think anyone said it was a cure. Sonyas above explained what the purpose of it is.

IF dehydration alone could kill someone, I'd be dead long ago. I have some organ damage from chronic dehydration, and I have constant dizziness due to low blood pressure caused by dehydration.

BUT I don't have a highly communicable disease like Ebola that rehydration by itself isn't going to cure. Someone else suggested that the reason some American citizens survived was due to hydrating themselves.

If it were that simple, thousands of people wouldn't have died by now, and the disease wouldn't keep spreading and infecting people world-wide.
 
  • #518
IF dehydration alone could kill someone, I'd be dead long ago. I have some organ damage from chronic dehydration, and I have constant dizziness due to low blood pressure caused by dehydration.

BUT I don't have a highly communicable disease like Ebola that rehydration by itself isn't going to cure. Someone else suggested that the reason some American citizens survived was due to hydrating themselves.

If it were that simple, thousands of people wouldn't have died by now, and the disease wouldn't keep spreading and infecting people world-wide.

Dehydration can't kill you? Are you sure about that? You can live without water?

I asked a simple question about what the powder was for. There is no current cure for ebola, but some people do live with supportive treatment. Supportive treatment includes hydration of some sort and that is the purpose of the powder. That's all.

If there is no cure for something, you will surely take all other measures to get through it, and that in this case would be rehydration.

Again, no one said it was a cure but rather a TOOL used to hopefully fight it off.
 
  • #519
Dehydration can't kill you? Are you sure about that? You can live without water?

I asked a simple question about what the powder was for. There is no current cure for ebola, but some people do live with supportive treatment. Supportive treatment includes hydration of some sort and that is the purpose of the powder.

That's NOT what I said. I said that I drink up to a gallon of water a day and still stay dehydrated. I'm miserable and can't drink more than a gallon of water a day. Add into that the half gallon of juice and milk I drink every day. Eventually, I'll most likely die from my chronic dehydration and the resulting organ failure. What I was trying to convey is that dehydration alone is not the cause for Ebola. Nor is rehydrating the cure.

My lips are dry, cracked, and bleeding. I can barely get from one room to another because of the dizziness caused by chronic dehydration. But my chronic health problems are not communicable diseases like Ebola and I'm not endangering anyone else.
 
  • #520
Signs & Symptoms of Dehydration

http://www.medicinenet.com/dehydration/page3.htm

With severe dehydration, confusion and weakness will occur as the brain and other body organs receive less blood flow. Finally, coma, organ failure, and death eventually will occur if the dehydration remains untreated.
 
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