Ebola outbreak - general thread #6

[Irish_Eyes]

And something else... Everybody's going ape$h!+ over flights coming from Africa but where do we get the majority of our cocoa? From Africa via ship. It's not a far cry to think an infected rat or two could be on board those ships. It's also not unheard of for a rat to infect another animal, especially wildlife, stray cats & dogs.

Our dogs & cats here in the USA are not meals, they're not our version of bushmeat. They are our pets that become our family members. maybe some extra precautions should be taken with our animals u til EBV is under control. Our version of bushmeat here could be considered muskrat, rabbit, deer. Well deer is a version of antelope isn't it, or is it just related in some way? There's an animal like a deer over in Liberia (as well as other parts of Africa) that are natural hosts to the EBV. The reason dogs in that area of Africa become hosts to EBV is bc they roam free and eat dead rodents (rats, bats, etc) that were infected with EBV.

The reason I posted that PDF from the CDC study, which I mistakenly thought was a study done by the WHO (sorry), is bc here in the USA alot of our hunters use hunting dogs. So.... Just thought I'd mention its something I was thinking about.

I worked at a zoo a few years ago when avian influenza was the big thing everyone on TV was panicking over. Once there was a case confirmed in the US we had a plan in place based on WHO guidelines. Our animals are considered quarantined because zoos quarantine their animals for several weeks on arrival to make sure they haven't contracted any diseases on the way in that could infect the rest of the collection. We also don't let people bring animals into our zoo with the exception of service dogs. But as zoos are outdoor attractions we could not control the fact that wild birds were frequently about. The fear was that an infected wild bird would somehow infect an animal in the collection and then possibly infect a keeper, and so on. So there were a series of restrictions and measures to be taken if the virus came within 150 miles of us, 50 miles of us, etc. Fortunately, it never did.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Follow up: One suspected case in Brazil - won't know test results until Saturday. None in India that I could find.

Snipped by me. This is what scares me. South America's borders aren't as stringent as ours is in the US. It's alot closer to sail into Brazil than it is to America. If flights are restricted, whose to say there aren't any stowaways on our imports via shipping channels? Or, how many people could get infected per capita in South America? Is it comparable to USA or are they more populated?

 

[CARIIS]

anyone catch the name of the female doc Anderson just had on --- she was terrific IMO

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Duncan vomited outside his finances apartment, either on the sidewalk or beside it - I forget. Well I wonder if rodent traps, or other animal traps, were set out in the vicinity? I also wonder if any feral animals were picked up by animal control. Was the vomit still there when the clean up crew arrived? Or was it gone?

 

[okiedokietoo]

Well I saw clipboardman/dude at Texas airport but what about this guy at Emory University Hospital in Atlanta?

http://www.wltx.com/longform/news/health/2014/10/15/ebola-factsnotfear/17250587/

halfway down page

 

[BlueberryBird]

In the last thread, somebody asked why several students in Fairfax County schools are being tested for EVD. I wonder if its bc somebody could have shared a flight with Duncan. He flew from Liberia to Brussels to Dulles (Fairfax/Loudoun Ctys in VA) then to TX.he had a short layover in Dulles VA before flying to TX.

It is just a precautionary measure for any student reporting to the nurse with a fever. There is a sizable population of African students and FX is a very large district. I teach in the county and we've recieved no special alerts or bulletins.

 

[okiedokietoo]

Duncan vomited outside his finances apartment, either on the sidewalk or beside it - I forget. Well I so der if rodent traps, or pther animal traps, were set out in the vicinity? I also wonder if any feral animals were picked up by animal control. Was the vomit still there when the clean up crew arrived? Or was it gone?

power sprayed off sidewalk when they cleaned apartment

 

[HMSHood]

Duncan vomited outside his finances apartment, either on the sidewalk or beside it - I forget. Well I so der if rodent traps, or pther animal traps, were set out in the vicinity? I also wonder if any feral animals were picked up by animal control. Was the vomit still there when the clean up crew arrived? Or was it gone?

I wonder that too. From what I recall reading, he vomited while being put into the ambulance. It was cleaned by being power washed, which I think is a very stupid way to clean it.

 

[TGIRecovered]

PHD offering rooms to employees that had cared for ebola patients.

@BrandonToddFOX4: TX Health Presby: "offering room to any impacted employees..avoid even remote possibility of potential exposure to family, friends" @FOX4

Thank God. These healthcare workers should have been provided with a quarantined place to o stay from the time they began treating the first patient until at least 21 days after their lacy contact with him. Not only did they have to Iexpose their loved ones but apparently no authority even asked them to remain in the area so they could be isolated and treated immediately if they developed symptoms.

I think the CDC knew better but they refrained from an immediate quarantine to make it seem less serious. Everybody is watching Obama's back...deny deny deny then pretend you heard about it in the news. We must cover our eyes and ears and pretend it's not there. Ebola? What Ebola?

MOO


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[Brightbird]

If blood transfusions from previously infected survivors of Ebola are of help to the now infected....why can't they fly in blood from Liberia? Why couldn't that have tried that with Duncan? I'm sorry if this is a dumb question. I am feeling the effects of Nyquil and trying to stay awake to read posts!

Taking some blood from a West African ebola survivor and flying it back to save lives in America might not go down well the locals. Not when they're dying in the thousands and the USA has two cases.

 

[Jersey*Girl]

It is just a precautionary measure for any student reporting to the nurse with a fever. There is a sizable population of African students and FX is a very large district. I teach in the county and we've recieved no special alerts or bulletins.

Thank you so much for this! That's wonderful that your district is being proactive. Kudos!

 

[Gypsy Road]

Taking some blood from a West African ebola survivor and flying it back to save lives in America might not go down well the locals. Not when they're dying in the thousands and the USA has two cases.

Maybe not, but Duncan was a Liberian citizen who came over to America.

 

[Irish_Eyes]

Taking some blood from a West African ebola survivor and flying it back to save lives in America might not go down well the locals. Not when they're dying in the thousands and the USA has two cases.

Excellent point.

 

[SpriteGal]

I fly out of denver with frontier next week. A little too close for comfort, especially since that plane is "out of service" in Denver right now. Hopefully it stays out of service for a long long while...

 

[okiedokietoo]

http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/st-lucia-visitors-ebola-stricken-nations-26222443

St Lucia, Colombia Bar Visitors From Ebola Nations
KINGSTON, Jamaica — Oct 15, 2014, 11:59 PM ET By DAVID McFADDEN Associated Press

The leader of the small Caribbean island of St. Lucia issued an order Wednesday to immediately bar entry to travelers coming from three West African nations overwhelmed with Ebola epidemics.
The Colombian government in South America later announced it would not allow in anyone who has traveled to five African nations within the preceding four weeks.
St. Lucia Prime Minister Kenny Anthony said all visitors from Guinea, Liberia and Sierra Leone were prohibited from entering his country until the Ebola outbreak is brought under control, saying the ban will minimize chances for the deadly disease to be introduced by an infected traveler.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

I fly out of denver with frontier next week. A little too close for comfort, especially since that plane is "out of service" in Denver right now. Hopefully it stays out of service for a long long while...

It's getting some new seat covers, carpet and extensive cleaning of the air filtration system.

 

[CARIIS]

Hi

Look at this way, you would be flying on the cleanest airplane on the planet.

The things cost (today's price) about 90 million each - they are not keeping her on the ground!!

I fly out of denver with frontier next week. A little too close for comfort, especially since that plane is "out of service" in Denver right now. Hopefully it stays out of service for a long long while...

 

[Jersey*Girl]

Bc I like to be thorough...

http://www.who.int/mediacentre/factsheets/fs103/en/

The virus family Filoviridae includes 3 genera: Cuevavirus, Marburgvirus, and Ebolavirus. There are 5 species that have been identified: Zaire, Bundibugyo, Sudan, Reston and Taï Forest. The first 3, Bundibugyo ebolavirus, Zaire ebolavirus, and Sudan ebolavirus have been associated with large outbreaks in Africa. The virus causing the 2014 west African outbreak belongs to the Zaire species.

 

[SpriteGal]

It's getting some new seat covers, carpet and extensive cleaning of the air filtration system.

Well that's comforting. Thanks.

 

[SpriteGal]

Hi

Look at this way, you would be flying on the cleanest airplane on the planet.

The things cost (today's price) about 90 million each - they are not keeping her on the ground!!

True! But no matter how much cleaning is done, I think it will always be known as the "Ebola Plane" LOL