Ellen Degeneres under fire for giving away dog

[SuziQ]

What cracks me up is Miss Uppity isn't going to be bullied by Ellen's camp and celebrity status. Then Miss Uppity should have catered to the poor folk that can't afford good attorneys. The decision to have high adoption fees came back to bite her in the behind.

She has a history of breaking her own rules, not changing the chip as promised, previously placing dogs in homes w/ children under 14, not consistently doing home checks prior to adoption. So now she wants to go by the rules? I wonder how many people Miss Uppity has screwed over.

I would feel bad about Miss Uppity's rescue being slammed, except it was never a true rescue organization to begin with, and needs to be shut down.

 

[Smurf]

I have had my rescue dog....a really cool Boston Terrier......for about 6 months.

I dealt with our rescue that politely asked that if there was a problem, we return him and they would adopt him out again. A courteousy. They certainly would not show up on the doorstep of the people we gave the dog to (had we) to take him back.

The other shelters we applied for had questions about whether you would ever install the invisible fence, whether you had a fence, if you would install a dog door, kids, our habits, etc. Utter bs nonsense. Most wanted to do a site visit. I told them to f$%$% off.

You will find that many people who work these shelters are animal imbeciles.

There is a board where boston owners congregate and there are BREEEEEDERS who run around chastising people for selling a dog that doesn't conform or whatnot. One breeder took great offense to the fact that I called my $50 full blooded boston a 'good deal'. It ended in a fight with me telling her that she needed to get laid and calling her an old srivelled up shrew. It wasn't pretty.

Cal

I bet I've been on that board before, I have two Boston's- What a great breed-love love love them. But some people in the dog world are so haughty and focused on their side of the different arguments that it's like they have tunnel vision and even though they say 'best interest of dog, blah, blah, blah' it becomes so junior high. Whatever happened to; it's America and we can bargain hunt for the right dog; we can adopt a mutt, we can get a purebred English Bulldog for $2500, we can feed inexpensive dog food; we can still, here in America raise our pets; the way we choose to raise a child. Whatever we think is best as long as we aren't breaking a law. This Ellen thing reminds me of Home Owners Associations. I just want to be left alone and do what I am free to do.

 

[BrendaStar]

How come this so-called rescue group never made it to Ellen's house and never found out about the cat situation? However, they got their behinds over fast enough to Ellen's hairdresser's house, didn't they?

I remember when Ellen had adopted the first dog. It was a French bull dog. I didn't know she had given it away. Adopting a second dog with a bunch of cats knowing the problem beforehand wasn't too smart on Ellen's part.:banghead: :banghead: :banghead: :banghead:

I once had two rescue dogs. It took a long time and a lot of patience for them to learn to get along and they were the same terrier breed! I can't imagine doing it with a bunch of cats and a small rescue dog.

 

[SuziQ]

I feel for those of you who have had bad experiences with adoptions. I always try to adopt from the Humane Society first. But after 3 dogs in one year, each one I had to return, the kids hearts being broken in the process, I realized the HS people were flat out lying to me. I finally quit listening to them and started going by my own gut instinct. I have had a 100% success rate since then. I also scan local ads for dogs obviously in a bad situation, owners being evicted that day, or divorce situation. Alot of times you can glean enough info from a phone call and visit to tell that a spouse wants a dog out of a DV situation. These dogs are bound to end up in a shelter. So I figure I am my own little rescue operation. I currently have, Maggie (60 lb lap dog), Pepper (50 lb lap dog) and Coco Chanel (4lb alpha dog). Mommy loves you sweeties!

 

[calus_3]

I bet I've been on that board before, I have two Boston's- What a great breed-love love love them. But some people in the dog world are so haughty and focused on their side of the different arguments that it's like they have tunnel vision and even though they say 'best interest of dog, blah, blah, blah' it becomes so junior high. Whatever happened to; it's America and we can bargain hunt for the right dog; we can adopt a mutt, we can get a purebred English Bulldog for $2500, we can feed inexpensive dog food; we can still, here in America raise our pets; the way we choose to raise a child. Whatever we think is best as long as we aren't breaking a law. This Ellen thing reminds me of Home Owners Associations. I just want to be left alone and do what I am free to do.

WOOF board.....what a bunch of turds congregate on that place. There are roving packs of human animals that will attack you for your choice of food, if you decide to use the electric fence (most out of ignorance), giving a dog away, selling a dog (even though they are breeders themselves, backyard breeding, etc. I called them DOG SNOBS to great fanfare.

Some of these people are just about as bad as the adoption agencies for HUMANS.

The rescue that we got our dog from was great. Good people. Our dog was insanely abused by someone to the extent that he wouldn't even come near me. I took him for a walk and was trying to get him to shake (they said he would). He was pulling trying to get away from me and also sniff the other dogs at the same time. I took him in a fenced area and just let him go while I sat in a chair and ignored him. He finally came over sat at my feet (as I was contemplating not taking him) and he stuck his paw up to shake with me as if introducing himself. I took him as people were driving from out of state to get him--a full blooded boston about 18 months old. He came house trained (not one accident), loves other pets, loves our neighbor's cat, and is a pussy cat with our kids. Best dog I have ever had--I had two neighbors offer to buy him if he didn't work out for us. He has.

Cal

 

[SadieMae]

I just now caught what you posted. Have you ever heard of such a thing? Isn't that a cardinal sin for animal rescue groups?

Most rescue I know do this as soon as the dog comes into the rescue, barring any serious health issues that need to be treated first.

What cracks me up is Miss Uppity isn't going to be bullied by Ellen's camp and celebrity status. Then Miss Uppity should have catered to the poor folk that can't afford good attorneys. The decision to have high adoption fees came back to bite her in the behind.

She has a history of breaking her own rules, not changing the chip as promised, previously placing dogs in homes w/ children under 14, not consistently doing home checks prior to adoption. So now she wants to go by the rules? I wonder how many people Miss Uppity has screwed over.

I would feel bad about Miss Uppity's rescue being slammed, except it was never a true rescue organization to begin with, and needs to be shut down.

The more I read about this organization the more shady it sounds.

 

[philamena]

I swear I must be reading the facts about this all wrong.
I simply don't understand why the dog can't stay with the people she was given too. Didn't Miss Uppity realize that removing the doggie from a loving home was harmful? She doesn't have the dog's best interest at heart....

 

[calus_3]

I sincerely doubt that the woman has any legal right to go to someone's house and remove that dog.

I would call the cops and have her arrested for strong arm robbery.

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Cal

 

[SuziQ]

I sincerely doubt that the woman has any legal right to go to someone's house and remove that dog.

I would call the cops and have her arrested for strong arm robbery.

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Cal

Now that's offensive to female dogs everywhere!

 

[Lurker]

I sincerely doubt that the woman has any legal right to go to someone's house and remove that dog.

I would call the cops and have her arrested for strong arm robbery.

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Cal

The cops were there weren't they? I thought they made the hairdresser give the dog back because the chip was never changed to Ellen's name?

 

[eve]

I sincerely doubt that the woman has any legal right to go to someone's house and remove that dog.

I would call the cops and have her arrested for strong arm robbery.

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Cal

Yeah, it's kinda like a baby adoption where they have 6 months to change their minds and take the baby back. But this is a dog. Now I know I'll get flamed but can you ever "own" a dog if you go through these places or is the dog forever monitored by them? Is it ever truly yours? To keep or give/sell to another? I confess I have always gone through breeders for dogs. Adopted a cat once but didn't sign anything saying I would never give it away to my recollection. And I did, in fact. I became allergic and had hives. My hubby's secretary took the cat and he became very fat (cat abuse, I'm sure) and lived a long long time!

Hell, foster kids receive far less scrutiny.

Eve

 

[BrendaStar]

I sincerely doubt that the woman has any legal right to go to someone's house and remove that dog.

Isn't the dog considered personal property??? I believe that is how the law sees a dog.

 

[FLMom]

From what I understand, the dog was still microchipped to the adoption agency, therefore when the police went to the woman's house the chip came up as "owned" by them. That's how she was able to get the dog back with the help of the police. Kind of like if you had a car in your driveway and the lo-jack said it belonged to another registered owner, they'd be able to take the car away because legally it belonged to someone else.

http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/17/dont-screw-the-pooch/


PETA stands by Ellen:

http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/17/peta-barks-at-dog-agency/


DListed says the Mutts & Moms has already adopted Iggy out to a new home . . . I can't link it due to some "commentary" in the article.

"The lawyer for Mutts & Moms dog adoption agency told The Insider that Iggy has been placed in a new home!!!!! Yesterday, Ellen broke down on her show begging the agency to give the dog back to her hairdresser's 12-year-old daughter."


Dog Rescue Woman Files Police Report:

http://www.tmz.com/2007/10/17/alleged-ellen-dognapper-files-police-report/



(and yes, FYI & LOL, I grew up on the National Enquirer and the Weekly World News)

 

[SadieMae]

What...she adopted it out to someone else!!!???? I am in favor of what rescues do , but this woman is EVIL! Why would THAT dog be so quickly adopted out when she has others that are not involved in a dispute needing homes? She should have at least given the hairdresser's family the chance to fill out adoption forms.


eve..depends on the rescue. The 3 places I've adopted from it's voluntary if the owner want to keep in touch with the rescue. Once the initial application and home visit are completed, I've never gotten a request to come back to check my animals from them. I do send them pictures and email to let them know how they're doing, and when they cross the bridge.

 

[MREG2]

Yeah, it's kinda like a baby adoption where they have 6 months to change their minds and take the baby back. But this is a dog. Now I know I'll get flamed but can you ever "own" a dog if you go through these places or is the dog forever monitored by them? Is it ever truly yours? To keep or give/sell to another? I confess I have always gone through breeders for dogs. Adopted a cat once but didn't sign anything saying I would never give it away to my recollection. And I did, in fact. I became allergic and had hives. My hubby's secretary took the cat and he became very fat (cat abuse, I'm sure) and lived a long long time!

Hell, foster kids receive far less scrutiny.

Eve

That's exactly what I thought this morning as I watched a replay of Ellen's show yesterday.

Woman, just give the dog back to the hairdresser and her kids and no one gets hurt.... Until then :slap:

 

[MREG2]

What...she adopted it out to someone else!!!???? I am in favor of what rescues do , but this woman is EVIL! Why would THAT dog be so quickly adopted out when she has others that are not involved in a dispute needing homes? She should have at least given the hairdresser's family the chance to fill out adoption forms.


eve..depends on the rescue. The 3 places I've adopted from it's voluntary if the owner want to keep in touch with the rescue. Once the initial application and home visit are completed, I've never gotten a request to come back to check my animals from them. I do send them pictures and email to let them know how they're doing, and when they cross the bridge.

Yes. If she claims she took the dog because she didn't know the family yadda yadda then freaking get to know them and let them have the dog if indeed they are a good match. Don't be a b*tch about it. Geez!!!!

 

[reb]

HAA!! She's recieving death threats. Maybe that will cause her to think twice about her actions and not be such a nazi. Maybe this will bring to light the insane, irrational, rigid, haughty (as someone said), holier-than-thou-and-everyone-else actions of many of the people in these groups. It's about time!

I guess if the dog's chip still showed the original woman has ownership, then that's how she was able to 'strongarm' the family (with the cops' help) into giving the dog back. Still.. the whole thing seems legally shady to me. And.... we have yet to hear of any real reason the family shouldn't keep the dog. Isn't she glad the dog found a loving home?? ISN'T THAT THE WHOLE POINT???

I agree with those who mentioned the absurdity of adopting a dog and then being under a magnifying glass,, being monitored for the rest of the dog's life, and the question, is it ever really yours? What's next,, are they gonna install video cameras in your home, to monitor you?
I think the woman just wanted to keep the dog for herself.. like many dog-foster parents. I hear of people who will have a 'foster dog' looking for a home, for YEARS. At that point, for crissakes.. just say the dog is YOURS already!!!

btw.. if Ellen wants to try another dog,, why doesnt she just become a foster dog-mom herself? That way she can try the pooches out with her cats, with no commitment. Geez,, that's what she shoulda done in the first place,, it would have saved her a lot of trouble.

 

[reb]

WHAT?? She adopted it out to someone else??? Wow.. she IS evil!!!!!

I hope the family gets the best lawyer ever and sues the sh*t out of that b*tch.
What does she (and other dog adoption agencies) have against kids....??? Unless a kid is hyper or abusive to an animal.... don't you WANT kids to grow up around dogs, and have that enriching experience?? So... now you can only have a rescued dog if you are rich,, and you are home all day, AND childless...??? WTF?!?!
This young girl will always remember this experience and I'm sure now she will have a bad association with rescue groups because of it.
God, no WONDER people buy from breeders!!

This makes me wonder how, legally,, a pet adopter can secure an adopted dog for themselves. In other words,, how do you say OK, the dog is MINE now.. you (the group) have no more power over me...?

 

[Details]

Good! Give the dog back, and stop and think about what the goal here is supposed to be - a good home for the dog. Not a sop to your ego.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Today, Ellen said she had the dog neutered herself. So this would present another plus for this case, imo. The chip would be null and void since she was responsible party as owner for the surgery.

I wonder if this has something to do with Ellen being a lesbian? Perhaps the people running the rescue are catering to the lesbian population and actually just have a problem with the couple being hetero? LOL Now that is another lawsuit in itself for discrimination, huh?!