Emergency custody papers filed by mother of JI's son 11/14/11

[cityslick]

Maybe deportation?

It was mentioned upthread that if it was a case of deportation, it takes 10 years to reenter the country. Obviously she's in the country now and it hasn't been 10 years since the custody order so deportation probably can be ruled out.

 

[menmo]

It was mentioned upthread that if it was a case of deportation, it takes 10 years to reenter the country. Obviously she's in the country now and it hasn't been 10 years since the custody order so deportation probably can be ruled out.

It was also mentioned upthread that the 10 years wasn't correct so who knows. :twocents:

 

[cityslick]

It was also mentioned upthread that the 10 years wasn't correct so who knows. :twocents:

I found this from an immigration lawyers site:


Summary of Waiting Time for Application for Reentry

Here are the typical wait times for reentry:

FIVE YEARS

• Aliens ordered removed in an expedited removal proceeding

• Aliens removed through removal proceedings initiated upon the alien’s arrival in the U.S.

TEN YEARS

• Aliens ordered removed after a removal hearing before an Immigration Judge

• Aliens who departed the U.S. while an order of removal was pending

20 YEARS

• Aliens ordered removed more than once

• Aliens convicted of an aggravated felony

So, if the above is true and she was deported after 2008, it still wouldn't have been 5 years. Here is the link to full page:

http://www.usimmigrationlawyers.com...after-deportation-possible-reentry-procedures

 

[hambirg]

I found this from an immigration lawyers site:


Summary of Waiting Time for Application for Reentry

Here are the typical wait times for reentry:

FIVE YEARS

• Aliens ordered removed in an expedited removal proceeding

• Aliens removed through removal proceedings initiated upon the alien’s arrival in the U.S.

TEN YEARS

• Aliens ordered removed after a removal hearing before an Immigration Judge

• Aliens who departed the U.S. while an order of removal was pending

20 YEARS

• Aliens ordered removed more than once

• Aliens convicted of an aggravated felony

So, if the above is true and she was deported after 2008, it still wouldn't have been 5 years. Here is the link to full page:

http://www.usimmigrationlawyers.com...after-deportation-possible-reentry-procedures

This is true, unless RR agreed to a voluntary departure. Then she is free to return whenever she wants.

http://enterusa.com/Voluntary-Departure.php

However, if one cannot afford to put up such a fight or if one simply lacks the legal qualifications to win a deportation case or appeal or to reverse an adverse Immigration & Naturalization Service decision, it is often preferable that such a person voluntary leaves the US WITHOUT BEING ORDERED DEPORTED. This compromise is known as voluntary departure.

Although it results in the ultimate departure of the US, it is always preferable to being ordered DEPORTED, an order of DEPORTATION / REMOVAL means that one CANNOT return to the US without special permission from the Immigration & Naturalization Service which is hard to obtain. The period that one must remain outside of the US can last from 5 years to life depending on that non citizen's immigration and criminal histories. Those with serious crimes involving narcotics, firearms, sex crimes, crimes of violence or multiple DUI's are usually subject to LIFETIME deportation and DO NOT QUALIFY TO EVER LEAVE VOLUNTARILY WITHOUT SUFFERING AN ORDER OF DEPORTATION. Further, if those people return illegally after being deported and are detected, they face up to TWENTY YEARS IN PRISON for "illegal reentry." However, people who have no serious crimes as described above AND WHO HAVE BEEN PRESENT IN THE US FOR MORE THAN ONE YEAR often have the options to avoid the serious consequences of deportation by accepting voluntary departure. Under voluntary departure, those persons are permitted to leave the United States, no deportation order is placed in their permanent Immigration & Naturalization Service record and such persons CAN reenter the United States (lawfully, of course!) Although to many people, voluntary departure is not considered a successful disposition of their matter. After, all they still must leave the US. However, voluntary departure should not be considered in a negative light. It is actually a privilege that one must win. Many people do not qualify for such a privilege and find themselves subject to a permanent or long term bar from reentry. However, as I have stated before, the person who leaves under voluntary departure can return to the US legally and is treated as if he was never deported, a much better alternative to deportation.

 

[Deleted member 39678]

Do we have any information that Rasleen Raim was/is in the United States illegally and was ever deported or left under voluntary departure rules? Or is this just a rumor/speculation?

 

[cityslick]

Do we have any information that Rasleen Raim was/is in the United States illegally and was ever deported or left under voluntary departure rules? Or is this just a rumor/speculation?

Speculation. Some are giving that as a possible reason for have zero contact with her son all this time.

 

[Donjeta]

As safe as any of our children are when they are put to bed. What more was there to do? We can't install alarms on our children unfortunately.

All our children are safer when the parent has not chosen to put themselves in an impaired condition.

Who was blackout drunk? Our is exactly as it says..everyone. Every child that goes to bed or is put in their room for the night while parents watch tv, play on the computer or sit out front drinking with a friend. No one knows or can say that Deb wasn't perfectly capable of taking care of her children if they cried out and needed her.

No one is perfectly capable of taking care of anything when they've downed ten glasses of wine.

 

[hambirg]

Do we have any information that Rasleen Raim was/is in the United States illegally and was ever deported or left under voluntary departure rules? Or is this just a rumor/speculation?

It was stated early on by Steve Young. It cannot be verified anymore. But I would swear on my life that I remember hearing him say that. Take that for whatever it is worth.

 

[yllek]

It was the advocate for Jeremy's son who requested the gag order, not the attorneys. Interesting.


A court appointed advocate for the child filed for the gag order to prevent the two sides from discussing the case in the media.

Because the case involves a minor, it was unclear whether the court had made a final ruling.

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...family-feud-as-jeremy-irwin's-attorney-agrees

 

[highflyer]

It was stated early on by Steve Young. It cannot be verified anymore. But I would swear on my life that I remember hearing him say that. Take that for whatever it is worth.

Kansas City Police Captain Steve Young spoke of Rasleen Raim being in the US illegally or being deported? That seems so odd.

 

[DeAnn]

Kansas City Police Captain Steve Young spoke of Rasleen Raim being in the US illegally or being deported? That seems so odd.

Some have said that's why she was ruled out because she had that as an alibi (she wasn't in the country). I won't say never but I thought I watched pretty much every Steve Young interview (except for one on ABC) and I don't remember him saying that.

 

[highflyer]

Some have said that's why she was ruled out because she had that as an alibi (she wasn't in the country). I won't say never but I thought I watched pretty much every Steve Young interview (except for one on ABC) and I don't remember him saying that.

Thank you. Don't remember Steve Young saying that either, but have been looking.

 

[Elley Mae]

It was mentioned upthread that if it was a case of deportation, it takes 10 years to reenter the country. Obviously she's in the country now and it hasn't been 10 years since the custody order so deportation probably can be ruled out.

I believe Whisperer was referring to the "threat" of deportation.

 

[cityslick]

I believe Whisperer was referring to the "threat" of deportation.

If that's the case I would have less sympathy for her, as she would be an illegal in this country. You can't threaten someone with deportation if there is no threat to them being deported in the first place.

 

[Allusonz]

It was stated early on by Steve Young. It cannot be verified anymore. But I would swear on my life that I remember hearing him say that. Take that for whatever it is worth.

I as well do not recall him stating this.

I do not believe that deportation was the issue and as IDM stated she has been in the country throughout this time.

I believe it is time to put the deportation issue to bed. This issue of deportation has taken on wings of its' own with nothing to back this up.

 

[cityslick]

I as well do not recall him stating this.

I do not believe that deportation was the issue and as IDM stated she has been in the country throughout this time.

I believe it is time to put the deportation issue to bed. This issue of deportation has taken on wings of its' own with nothing to back this up.

I don't remember it either and to be honest, I'm not sure how he would of had that information readily available to him at that moment in time.

 

[DeAnn]

Not sure if this is the right thread or not to post this in.....it's a doozy of a story that I'll let you chew over.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16341233/attorney-in-dispute-with-baby-lisas-dad-in-legal-hot-water

A Kansas City attorney is facing a judge's wrath after she apparently allowed her client's twin brother to impersonate him during a court hearing.

Jackson County prosecutors want criminal defense attorney Dorothy Savory held in contempt of court and removed from the case, according to court documents. She also likely will be reported to the Missouri Bar Association.

Savory is representing Rasleen Raim in a different case. Raim is suing her former boyfriend, Jeremy Irwin, in a custody dispute over their 9-year-old son.

 

[cityslick]

Not sure if this is the right thread or not to post this in.....it's a doozy of a story that I'll let you chew over.

http://www.kctv5.com/story/16341233/attorney-in-dispute-with-baby-lisas-dad-in-legal-hot-water

A Kansas City attorney is facing a judge's wrath after she apparently allowed her client's twin brother to impersonate him during a court hearing.

Jackson County prosecutors want criminal defense attorney Dorothy Savory held in contempt of court and removed from the case, according to court documents. She also likely will be reported to the Missouri Bar Association.

Savory is representing Rasleen Raim in a different case. Raim is suing her former boyfriend, Jeremy Irwin, in a custody dispute over their 9-year-old son.

That's not the same lawyer that's made statements to the press though, is it?

 

[DeAnn]

That's not the same lawyer that's made statements to the press though, is it?

She's made some comments to certain media outlets but not all.

 

[Elley Mae]

http://www.nbcactionnews.com/dpp/ne...f-one-of-lisa-irwins-half-brothers-speaks-out

NBC Action News Investigator Ryan Kath traveled to Marshall, Mo., the day after Lisa vanished and spoke to Raim in person.



Looks like she is in the states.