Emmys will edit Kathy Griffin’s offensive speech

[Peter Hamilton]

I'm confessing, I love Kathy G. I watch her show on Bravo and I think she's hilarious. BUT imo she crossed the line with award comment. I'm afraid she may actually loose a fan or 2....that comment wasn't funny----to me anyway.

--my thoughts exactly--Big fan of KG and her show but she screwed up in this instance

 

[Dark Knight]

Are you feeling left out DK.
imagine if we all started talking about what was or wasnt said in pms on the open forum....it would be bye bye forum

It's actually against TOS to reprint a PM without the author's permission for that very reason. I don't know about repeating what they said in a PM, but probably the same thing.

 

[goddess]

Well, she's getting attention:

http://www.realityblurred.com/realitytv/archives/kathy_griffin/2007_Sep_11_emmy_remarks_censored
In a statement Monday, Catholic League president Bill Donohue said, in part, “Griffin described herself as a ‘complete militant atheist.’ Unfortunately, her kind of vulgar in-your-face brand of hate speech found a receptive audience on Saturday: The Hollywood Reporter says her foul remark ‘drew laughs.’ It is incumbent upon Dick Askin, chairman and chief executive officer of the Academy of Television Arts & Sciences, to denounce Griffin’s obscene and blasphemous comment; a statement should also be read on Sunday. … It is sure bet that if Griffin had said, ‘Suck it, Muhammad,’ there would have been a very different reaction from the crowd and from the media who covered this event. To say nothing of the Muslim reaction.”


HEY, they stole my "suck it allah" remark. Sort of. ETA: Oops, never mind. Dark Knight said it first.

Hate speech??? Give me a break. The Catholic League needs to stick to rooting out the pervert priests and leave Hollywood alone already.

 

[dingo]

I would think that discussing a pm is the same as posting a pm...proberly worse as anything can be said whether it is true or not.....I think allowing this to happen is opening the floodgates for major trouble....but what do I know.
My conduct here in the last two years hopefully speaks for itself regarding the said allegations.

 

[southcitymom]

Yeah, I think! I really can't see Him chuckling at that. I know that probably turns off a lot of people, but that's just disrespectful, joke or not.

Now THIS acceptance speech was funny. It's Steve Carell's speech from when The Office won a Golden Globe:

Carell's asides (those "not written" by wife Nancy) are in italics:

"Wow, I really did not expect this... so I did not write anything, however my wife did and handed me something.
[Carell holds up piece of paper]
I'd like to thank the Hollywood Foreign Press for this great honor. I would also like to thank my wife Nancy for her constant support and for being so beautiful tonight...
That's true
Thanks also to Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant for creating such a wonderful groundbreaking piece of television and to Greg Daniels for his talent, courage, and sheer audacity.
This is good.. thank you
Also, to my wife for giving me two wonderful children as painful as her labor might have been. Thanks also to an excellent cast, crew, and writing staff all of whom I am indebted to ... if it weren't for you I wouldn't be here right now.
Hmmm... I don't know about that
Steve Salor, Michele Bowen, Matthew Lavon, Holly Burrell.... Nancy, my precious wife, who put her career on hold in support of mine and who sometimes wishes I would let her know when I'm going to be home late so she can schedule her life, which is no less important than mine.
To my parents, for not making me go to law school... and finally, to the love of my life, my wife Nancy.
Thank you very much."

It was better live! (Note he did not thank God! )

Steve Carrel is terrific!

 

[Dark Knight]

Hate speech??? Give me a break. The Catholic League needs to stick to rooting out the pervert priests and leave Hollywood alone already.

Your siggy is quite accurate.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I agree. Her bathroom humor and the jokes aimed at 12 year old boys are just disgusting. Good luck with your son's trip! How exciting, you must be so proud. What instrument does he play?

I am very proud and tired!! I've got to get up at 5:00 to get him to band practice every morning! LOL He's on the drumline. He loves it.

 

[sherri79]

Exactly, Paladin. You nailed it.

I love Kathy Griffin. I don't think this was her cleverest moment and it isn't something I would have said, but her work is based on mocking people who take themselves too seriously. Where to find more of such people than at a Hollywood award show? What makes her brilliant is that she is simultaneously the biggest "fangirl" around. Just like the rest of us, she criticizes and dotes on celebrity at the same time.

As for this being yet another attack on the poor, disadvantaged minority group called Christians, well, as I said, Griffin thrives on mocking those who take themselves too seriously.

There's nothin' like a good Catholic girl.

are you implying it is ok to show disrespect to a group of people based on their faith if their are alot of them? either my love of sarcasm leads me to see it hear unfairly and you real do feel they are as you described or you love sarcasm as much as me and used it. at what point is it ok to attack a group based on race or religion?

 

[Jeana (DP)]

I do generalise Jeana, bad habit- and ok about the off topic remarks.

I used the Muslims as an example of how people can hate another group of people without even knowing them.

Well try and keep it contained, will ya? We're getting some alerts and quite frankly on a personal level I'm getting a little sick of you tossing in these remarks on every possible post.

 

[southcitymom]

When she also says "I want you to know that no one had less to do with this award than Jesus. This award is my god now” she is attacking the Lord directly, not hypocrites. Anyone who thinks she was attacking hypocrites rather than Jesus is rationalizing their finding it amusing.

Either you hear what she said with her tongue in her cheek or you don't.

Either you hear her disrespecting Jesus or you hear her disrespecting hypocrits.

Each camp rationalizes their position, to be sure, LOL!

 

[southcitymom]

Not obvious?

Truly, I am ....that has not been my experience of said member! But, hey - different opinions make the world spin round....

 

[angarella]

Truly, I am ....that has not been my experience of said member! But, hey - different opinions makes the world spin round....

That they do Southcitymom, that they do.

 

[Jeana (DP)]

Okay people. The topic of this thread is KATHY GRIFFIN AND HER BIG MOUTH.

If you want to bash on Americans, Aussies, Catholics, Muslims or anyone else just let me know and I'LL BE HAPPY TO TELL YOU WHERE TO GO AND LOCK YOU OUT SO THAT YOU DON'T HAVE ANYWHERE ELSE TO COME.

 

[gman20001969]

LOL Jeana! I have to say that it was disrespectful for Kathy Griffin to say that no matter what religion you follow. Chances are that you would offend at least 1 person in making a statement like that. Is it ok to makes some of the people laugh while offending others? Before you answer "yes", remember most comedians poke fun at others expense.

 

[Masterj]

You think? I'm of the opinion that He'd chuckle at her remark - which is really more cutting towards bloated, self-indulgent stars who praise God publically and vainly than towards the Christ....IMHO.

I agree.

 

[Masterj]

from what i understand, & i could be wrong, is that Matt WAS her manager...he didn't have a full time job...his job was managing his wife, & on the side he was stealing money that she didn't know about.....MY opinion is that he MAY have gotten into gambling, but i don't know that for a fact....just a guess

This is what I have heard also. And that some money was secretively moved around.

 

[sherri79]

You think? I'm of the opinion that He'd chuckle at her remark - which is really more cutting towards bloated, self-indulgent stars who praise God publically and vainly than towards the Christ....IMHO.

i can not know the mind of god and can only go on his words. i could swear he said something about not taking his name in vain. it is a guess but i would think that would also apply to his son. somehow i cant see a god who makes 1 of his 10 top rules as dont take my name in vain getting a giggle at the reference to his son performing oral sex on a object even if it is a "joke".

 

[IdahoMom]

This is what I have heard also. And that some money was secretively moved around.

I was watching some Kathy Griffin youtube videos today. I saw one where she was on The View and she said that her husband was sneaking money out of her own personal account and that this was an issue of broken trust and that there was more to the broken trust issue than just that.

 

[imthemom]

i can not know the mind of god and can only go on his words. i could swear he said something about not taking his name in vain. it is a guess but i would think that would also apply to his son. somehow i cant see a god who makes 1 of his 10 top rules as dont take my name in vain getting a giggle at the reference to his son performing oral sex on a object even if it is a "joke".

Agreed!!

 

[Nova]

are you implying it is ok to show disrespect to a group of people based on their faith if their are alot of them? either my love of sarcasm leads me to see it hear unfairly and you real do feel they are as you described or you love sarcasm as much as me and used it. at what point is it ok to attack a group based on race or religion?

Yes, there is a world of difference between attacking an historically powerful group (American white males, say) versus attacking an historically disadvantaged group such as blacks or gays. It's the difference between a satirist and a bully. It's only unfair when you take both actions out of historical context; IN context, if white males take a little ribbing, it doesn't even begin to offset their many advantages.

I don't believe Griffin was attacking Christians per se. She was raised in the church and most of her family are presumably Christian.

I think she was mocking lavish shows of faith in inappropriate settings. Even Jesus himself mocked that, IIRC.

Would I have made the same choice? No. I don't mind admitting the "Jesus" phrase she employed doesn't sit very well with me. I'm not offended, exactly, but I do find it offputting. And I find it witless, which is a worse sin in my book.

But where is it written that everyone's unprovable, magical thinking must be treated reverently by non-believers? Don't get me wrong: I have my own faith in God and other ideas that can't be verified scientifically. But I don't get bent out of shape that the rest of the world neither agrees nor treats my beliefs as specially precious.