Evidence connecting JR, CWW and/or MS to one another. How/when do their paths cross?

"Mark called from Florida and he said, 'What happened?' I said, 'I don't know. We had a great friendship and I thought our marriage would be great.'"

Mark Sievers asked if Wright was back on drugs but she said she didn't believe so. Becker said Sievers made a comment that he had been trying to tell Wright he was bipolar since high school.

Becker said Wright had a general distaste for Sievers' wife, although he never elaborated or said anything about harming her.

"He would just say, 'I don't really care for her,'" Becker said.

Snipped from the article- This piece of information stood out to me personally. TS did not have 1 enemy to speak of at this point, to any of our knowledge through MSM etc. I would also wager a bet that CWW disliked MS telling him he suspected he had bipolar disorder. Just got me thinking.

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BBM. I think its strange how CWW has an open distaste for TS, and she helped his wife find a job in the medical field. Presumably he's telling the ex wife, a recipient of kindness from TS, that he 'doesn't care for her' but gladly uses TS's connections. IMO, the same person who influenced CWW's 'dislike' of TS, asked her for that favor.

Also, why is MS so concerned about CWW? He may be a great friend, very concerned but I don't know. Seems a little overboard - calling his ex to find out what went wrong, diagnosing CWW as bipolar. On the other hand, if he was just concerned with policing his friend's drug use, it wouldn't be such odd, almost controlling behavior.
 
BBM

Assuming they had met, I wonder if CWW didn't care for TS because maybe she didn't respond to him the way other women did:



I can't imagine her having any patience for that kind of attitude.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/crim...ath-of-dr-teresa-sievers--2345-339128031.html

Most likely the case. Second most likely, IMO; TS may have met CWW for such a short period of time that she didn't really form an opinion of him. Flash forward a few years, MS says nothing or little to TS about CWW, has instilled a general distaste for TS in his CWW's mind intentionally or unintentionally. I can't see TS recommending CWW's wife for a job if she knew that CWW did not like her and/or she did not like him, and thought he associated with questionable people.
 
BBM. I think its strange how CWW has an open distaste for TS, and she helped his wife find a job in the medical field. Presumably he's telling the ex wife, a recipient of kindness from TS, that he 'doesn't care for her' but gladly uses TS's connections. IMO, the same person who influenced CWW's 'dislike' of TS, asked her for that favor.

Also, why is MS so concerned about CWW? He may be a great friend, very concerned but I don't know. Seems a little overboard - calling his ex to find out what went wrong, diagnosing CWW as bipolar. On the other hand, if he was just concerned with policing his friend's drug use, it wouldn't be such odd, almost controlling behavior.

Sounds like caring and compassionate behaviour to me. Idk, maybe I just always see the best in people.
 
Sounds like caring and compassionate behaviour to me. Idk, maybe I just always see the best in people.

I don't know if MS's behavior was compassionate when he disclosed his (unprofessional) opinion that CWW was bipolar to the ex. JMO, MS was excusing CWW's behavior leading to the divorce. I wonder why MS was so caring about a guy who had a general distaste for the woman he loved?
 
I'll just throw this out there, now that I have read everything and watched all the vids related to Ronnie Bolin.

Maybe the thing that TS found out about and wanted MS to distance himself from or lose association with CWW wasn't business related, theft, drugs or an affair. Maybe at some point she heard about RB and and that her husbands best friend was a murder suspect or person of interest. Maybe she confronted MS and said we can't have him around us, our family and our business. You need to end your friendship with him.

Maybe MS defended him, maybe she believed him, maybe she didn't. Maybe MS said it was possible he was involved in RB's disappearance. Maybe MS was stupid enough to tell CWW, hey my wife heard about the RB thing and she doesn't like it that you might be involved. CWW didn't like this, maybe his gig with MS and the business was good money and he wasn't going to lose it. We still don't know about the business model that SMS was referencing. A lot may have been at stake and now CWW was going to be cut out.

Or, maybe CWW thought MS told TS more about his potential involvement in RB's disappearance than he was letting on. Now he is freaking out and getting paranoid.

Maybe MS does know what happened to Ronnie Bolin for real and now CWW is worried that TS will blow it for him--more than just losing a IT gig, he could go away for murder. Murder is worse than drugs. So he decides to shut her up. In my book that would still make MS guilty-- if he knew that CWW was involved in a murder and supported him by keeping quiet and employing him to boot. In this scenario he probably never dreamed CWW would kill his wife to keep her quiet. Or maybe even more sickening, he thought maybe CWW would and maybe she was giving vibes she wanted out and this all could work so conveniently without even asking CWW to do some dirty work.

Maybe this supposed $10k was money CWW was paying JR out of his own pocket for help to shut up someone that could hurt him, not a payment from MS.
I know we have never been told yet why Teresa didn't go to CWW's wedding, but who doesn't go to their husbands best friend's wedding especially when he was going to be the best man. I know some have suggested that MS and CWW were not that good of friends. Not buying that. CWW had him as best man when they had not even lived in the same local for years, kept in touch by phone, CWW regularly was in Florida, (don't know what for, but I can imagine him and MS got together). He did work for MS and TS or at least in TS's case her business). They were friends, good friends. MS knew a lot about CWW past and present and stayed involved with people who were involved with CWW over the years, he visited regularly.
And the tie in with RB is so very interesting. Especially with MS's prior engagement/ fiance. Yes it is a small town. MS had to have heard the rumors about his friend CWW lawyering up and not wanting to talk to authorities about the case. Again, it is a small town. MS had to have known he had connectivity to both families. Maybe there is a stronger tie in to Ronnie Bolin than just CWW is connected to both. Maybe TS's tragic death is the consequence of knowing too much.
 
I know we have never been told yet why Teresa didn't go to CWW's wedding, but who doesn't go to their husbands best friend's wedding especially when he was going to be the best man. I know some have suggested that MS and CWW were not that good of friends. Not buying that. CWW had him as best man when they had not even lived in the same local for years, kept in touch by phone
MS was NOT the best man in CWW's May wedding.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?291244-CWW-Wedding-Photos-May-2-2015

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MS was NOT the best man in CWW's May wedding.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?291244-CWW-Wedding-Photos-May-2-2015

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Here you go, MS was reported in this article as the best man from an interview with CWW's mother in law. "Karen Wideman said Tuesday that her daughter Angela Wideman Wright, 42, dated Wright, 47, more than 24 years ago and reconnected with him about a year and a half ago at a church function. They were married in Missouri in May, with Teresa Sievers' husband, Mark, presiding as the best man. Teresa Sievers did not attend the nuptials."
http://www.news-press.com/story/new...ght-mother-law-sievers-link-deep-mo/72633014/
 
I'll just throw this out there, now that I have read everything and watched all the vids related to Ronnie Bolin.

Maybe the thing that TS found out about and wanted MS to distance himself from or lose association with CWW wasn't business related, theft, drugs or an affair. Maybe at some point she heard about RB and and that her husbands best friend was a murder suspect or person of interest. Maybe she confronted MS and said we can't have him around us, our family and our business. You need to end your friendship with him.

Maybe MS defended him, maybe she believed him, maybe she didn't. Maybe MS said it was possible he was involved in RB's disappearance. Maybe MS was stupid enough to tell CWW, hey my wife heard about the RB thing and she doesn't like it that you might be involved. CWW didn't like this, maybe his gig with MS and the business was good money and he wasn't going to lose it. We still don't know about the business model that SMS was referencing. A lot may have been at stake and now CWW was going to be cut out.

Or, maybe CWW thought MS told TS more about his potential involvement in RB's disappearance than he was letting on. Now he is freaking out and getting paranoid.

Maybe MS does know what happened to Ronnie Bolin for real and now CWW is worried that TS will blow it for him--more than just losing a IT gig, he could go away for murder. Murder is worse than drugs. So he decides to shut her up. In my book that would still make MS guilty-- if he knew that CWW was involved in a murder and supported him by keeping quiet and employing him to boot. In this scenario he probably never dreamed CWW would kill his wife to keep her quiet. Or maybe even more sickening, he thought maybe CWW would and maybe she was giving vibes she wanted out and this all could work so conveniently without even asking CWW to do some dirty work.

Maybe this supposed $10k was money CWW was paying JR out of his own pocket for help to shut up someone that could hurt him, not a payment from MS.
I know we have never been told yet why Teresa didn't go to CWW's wedding, but who doesn't go to their husbands best friend's wedding especially when he was going to be the best man. I know some have suggested that MS and CWW were not that good of friends. Not buying that. CWW had him as best man when they had not even lived in the same local for years, kept in touch by phone, CWW regularly was in Florida, (don't know what for, but I can imagine him and MS got together). He did work for MS and TS or at least in TS's case her business). They were friends, good friends. MS knew a lot about CWW past and present and stayed involved with people who were involved with CWW over the years, he visited regularly.
And the tie in with RB is so very interesting. Especially with MS's prior engagement/ fiance. Yes it is a small town. MS had to have heard the rumors about his friend CWW lawyering up and not wanting to talk to authorities about the case. Again, it is a small town. MS had to have known he had connectivity to both families. Maybe there is a stronger tie in to Ronnie Bolin than just CWW is connected to both. Maybe TS's tragic death is the consequence of knowing too much.

RUSSIAN BLUE, I just wanted to acknowledge all the thought and work that went into your post! Simply clicking on the THANKS tab just didn't seem sufficient. There is so much "connectivity" in this case...and yet you clearly stated it all. Thank you so much, IQ.:seeya:
 
RUSSIAN BLUE, I just wanted to acknowledge all the thought and work that went into your post! Simply clicking on the THANKS tab just didn't seem sufficient. There is so much "connectivity" in this case...and yet you clearly stated it all. Thank you so much, IQ.:seeya:

I agree Russian Blue brings out some very valid points. My only problem with this scenario is I honestly believe CWW thought he was totally going to get away with the RB disappearance/murder. He could have confided in MS as to his involvement but RB was a cold case, until the tragedy with TS occurred. I think CWW thought the RB situation was in his rear view mirror so why would he confide in MS, other than to say "I can get away with murder... if you need some "help". If that is the case, I highly doubt MS would have told TS of CWW's alleged involvement.

AR states she never heard TS speak of CWW and isn't convinced she knew him or maybe even heard of him.

Honestly, if my husband wanted to go to a wedding in rural MO for his childhood friend, knowing I wouldn't know a soul there, I too might say "go and have fun- see ya Sunday night". They clearly didn't mind traveling separately as evidenced by TS coming home early from the CT trip.

JMO- I don't think TS knew very much about CWW and that was done by design.
 
Here you go, MS was reported in this article as the best man from an interview with CWW's mother in law. "Karen Wideman said Tuesday that her daughter Angela Wideman Wright, 42, dated Wright, 47, more than 24 years ago and reconnected with him about a year and a half ago at a church function. They were married in Missouri in May, with Teresa Sievers' husband, Mark, presiding as the best man. Teresa Sievers did not attend the nuptials."
http://www.news-press.com/story/new...ght-mother-law-sievers-link-deep-mo/72633014/
Angela's mother would be wrong.
Pictures of the actual wedding ceremony show he was a groomsman, but not best man. AW had a maid of honor and one bridesmaid. CWW had a best man and one groomsman. MS was the other groomsman.
 
Angela's mother would be wrong.
Pictures of the actual wedding ceremony show he was a groomsman, but not best man. AW had a maid of honor and one bridesmaid. CWW had a best man and one groomsman. MS was the other groomsman.
Yes, it appears the man with the large beard was best man.

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I don't know if MS's behavior was compassionate when he disclosed his (unprofessional) opinion that CWW was bipolar to the ex. JMO, MS was excusing CWW's behavior leading to the divorce. I wonder why MS was so caring about a guy who had a general distaste for the woman he loved?

Maybe MS didn't know that CWW didn't like her. Remember in the Bolin report/documents when one of CWW's ex-wife's told detectives that CWW pretends to like people that he really doesn't? Like RB, and look what happened to him.

She also said that his favorite activity was to run people off the road. SMH
 
Maybe MS didn't know that CWW didn't like her. Remember in the Bolin report/documents when one of CWW's ex-wife's told detectives that CWW pretends to like people that he really doesn't? Like RB, and look what happened to him.

She also said that his favorite activity was to run people off the road. SMH
Total wack-job. Allegedly shooting at RB from a moving car then running a pregnant woman off the road.

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Per Jessica Lipscomb's article: Shelley Fryer dated Mark Sievers for 3 years. They broke things off, before the wedding.

2 years after the break-up, Greg Bolin married Shelley Fryer. His brother, Ronnie, was the minister who officiated. Shelley wore the dress she had originally set-aside for Mark, before they broke up.
It must be a very small town.
It's a small town, small county, small state - smaller than you can possibly know~
 
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higher res photo link: https://twitter.com/jessicalipscomb/status/661256452791599105
https://www.facebook.com/naplesnews...472761.152774630192/10156282845430193/?type=3

These individual photos and more, with captions, at link: http://www.naplesnews.com/multimedia/photos/Tangled-web-in-Teresa-Sievers-case-339129392.html
 
What's weird is that Corey Fox, who kept confessing to Ronnie Bolin's murder, looks a lot like CWW and MS. I know it means nothing, but it made me do a double take. :eek:

Also, why do I have the feeling that Jessica is either reading here or getting suggestions from a WSer or two or three? :) She comes up with things we've talked about and then gathers even more info. She's good!

 
What's weird is that Corey Fox, who kept confessing to Ronnie Bolin's murder, looks a lot like CWW and MS. I know it means nothing, but it made me do a double take. :eek:

Also, why do I have the feeling that Jessica is either reading here or getting suggestions from a WSer or two or three? :) She comes up with things we've talked about and then gathers even more info. She's good!

The Graphic was sent in to Mss Lipscomb by "@laceyhoop",.."Special thanks to ..":

https://twitter.com/jessicalipscomb?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^ serp|twgr^author

And yes, she IS good!

-Nin

PS.:

Post from Oct. 9th

Jessica Lipscomb ‏@jessicalipscomb [video=twitter;652497191316144128]https://twitter.com/jessicalipscomb/status/652497191316144128[/video]
Thanks for all the follows, WS people! PS, when I said last night I didn't have a Sievers story for today, I wasn't lying. Very last minute.
 

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