Evidence not tested

[freespeech]

Funny, in my mind, since she was hanging herself naked, she was cold, and used it in the wicker chair while she bound her ankles.

What "blood DNA stains"? And don't you think two or three people carrying a Jui Jitsu master in a red blanket all the way from the guest house to the main house would have left some clues? Why didn't Rebecca have any defensive wounds? Why was there no skin or blood under her nails?

Was she a Jui Jitsu master? Master I mean. I thought maybe she took a self defense course but you say that she made it all the way to master? I would love to see that link.

I believe that the nine abrasions to her upper extremities would fall into the category of possible defense wounds if one were inclined to find evidence of a homicide.

She had four abrasions to the right hand and two abrasions one to each of two different fingers of the right hand and she had an abrasion to the right elbow. She also had an abrasion to the left middle finger and left forearm in addition she had three drops of blood on two different fingers of the right hand. Apparently she was a right handed fighter. I believe that they did find DNA under one of her fingernails. Which finger was that on? I mean was it her right hand and maybe on one of the fingers that had blood? If you know please also include that link as well.

Below is a handy link to Rebecca's autopsy results:

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

Oh thank goodness. YouTube. Now we know it's a pure, unadulterated piece of evidence.

I don't suppose there are any MSM or LE releases with the same "information" in them?

Not trying to be snarky, but YouTube is not exactly reliable. . MOO

I agree, but this is the best we have. And this is not the full version from what I understand, but only the first part until he was connected to someone else.

Anne Bremner can release it, but she had not.

 

[FrayedKnot]

I agree, but this is the best we have. And this is not the full version from what I understand, but only the first part until he was connected to someone else.

Anne Bremner can release it, but she had not.

But if it the best we have, and it is YouTube, then really it is nothing and should not even be considered.

I could have my cousin Jed make up a YouTube video saying OJ didn't do it, but it doesn't make it so. MOO

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

Was she a Jui Jitsu master? Master I mean. I thought maybe she took a self defense course but you say that she made it all the way to master? I would love to see that link.

I believe that the nine abrasions to her upper extremities would fall into the category of possible defense wounds if one were inclined to find evidence of a homicide.

She had four abrasions to the right hand and two abrasions one to each of two different fingers of the right hand and she had an abrasion to the right elbow. She also had an abrasion to the left middle finger and left forearm in addition she had three drops of blood on two different fingers of the right hand. Apparently she was a right handed fighter. I believe that they did find DNA under one of her fingernails. Which finger on which hand was that. If you know please also include that link as well.

Below is a handy link to Rebecca's autopsy results:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

Dina states that Rebecca was a Jui Jitsu master in the Boy Interrupted article.

All of the wounds you listed were small and could never be considered defensive wounds, IMO. And all were caused by the cactus tree she hit. Did you not see the barbs on that thing?

The DNA under her only ONE of her nails was trace and so slight it could not yield any results. So no defending herself there, either. That information is on the SDSO site.

 

[freespeech]

No, I am referring to the wounds on her hands. The autopsy report proves she was murdered? Sorry, but I see where it says "suicide". Signed and dated. I am well aware of the report, but thank you anyway.

The title of the thread is evidence not tested, no? The findings of the investigation are in dispute, remember?

Here's the link to the autopsy report. The report shows that she had four abrasions to the right hand and two abrasions one to each of two different fingers of the right hand and she had an abrasion to the right elbow. She also had an abrasion to the left middle finger and left forearm in addition she had three drops of blood on two different fingers of the right hand. Apparently she was a right handed fighter. I believe that they did find DNA under one of her fingernails. Which finger was that on? I mean was it her right hand and maybe on one of the fingers that had blood?

The link to the autopsy report is posted below:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

But if it the best we have, and it is YouTube, then really it is nothing and should not even be considered.

I could have my cousin Jed make up a YouTube video saying OJ didn't do it, but it doesn't make it so. MOO

Ya know, now that I think about it, maybe one of the SD news stations had it first. I'll check.

 

[justice be served]

But if it the best we have, and it is YouTube, then really it is nothing and should not even be considered.

I could have my cousin Jed make up a YouTube video saying OJ didn't do it, but it doesn't make it so. MOO

Thank you for the levity :floorlaugh:

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

Ok, I think the YouTube one must have come from:

http://www.cbs8.com/story/16150816/911-call-released-in-hanging-death-at-coronados-spreckels-mansion

I believe this contains the same amount of tape, but don't hold me to that. Hey, I have a cousin Jed, too!

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

The title of the thread is evidence not tested, no? The findings of the investigation are in dispute, remember?

Here's the link to the autopsy report. The report shows that she had four abrasions to the right hand and two abrasions one to each of two different fingers of the right hand and she had an abrasion to the right elbow. She also had an abrasion to the left middle finger and left forearm in addition she had three drops of blood on two different fingers of the right hand. Apparently she was a right handed fighter. I believe that they did find DNA under one of her fingernails. Which finger was that on? I mean was it her right hand and maybe on one of the fingers that had blood?

The link to the autopsy report is posted below:
https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

All of those abrasions you've listed are tiny. Cactus tree, I tell ya. IMO

 

[freespeech]

Dina states that Rebecca was a Jui Jitsu master in the Boy Interrupted article.

All of the wounds you listed were small and could never be considered defensive wounds, IMO. And all were caused by the cactus tree she hit. Did you not see the barbs on that thing?

The DNA under her only ONE of her nails was trace and so slight it could not yield any results. So no defending herself there, either. That information is on the SDSO site.

Abrasions are not the same as puncture wounds.


She had four abrasions to the right hand and two abrasions one to each of two different fingers of the right hand and she had an abrasion to the right elbow. She also had an abrasion to the left middle finger and left forearm in addition she had three drops of blood on two different fingers of the right hand.

She had puncture wounds on her back not on her hands. Please reread the autopsy report. She had puncture wounds, abrasions, hemorrhages, scratches, bruises on various parts of her body. To see which injury was on which part you need to read the autopsy report all the way through. For example the blood on her fingers is in the first section but the abrasions to the upper extremities is much lower and towards the end of the report. Another example the scratches to her face are under external injuries but the scalp hemorrhages that could have rendered her unconscious are under the internal injury section which is down toward the end of the report.

Here is the link again.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en

 

[justice be served]

Abrasions are not the same as puncture wounds.


She had four abrasions to the right hand and two abrasions one to each of two different fingers of the right hand and she had an abrasion to the right elbow. She also had an abrasion to the left middle finger and left forearm in addition she had three drops of blood on two different fingers of the right hand.

She had puncture wound on her back not on her hands. Please reread the autopsy report. Here's the link again.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en :r

And her hands were bound with how many loops of rope? IMO her hands were really quite protected from the plant and anything else. And i have that same cactus tree and it does not have thorns. Which, BTW, the plant was one of the first things demoed from the house when the house "SOLD" (which it did not get sold we all now know).

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

Abrasions are not the same as puncture wounds.


She had four abrasions to the right hand and two abrasions one to each of two different fingers of the right hand and she had an abrasion to the right elbow. She also had an abrasion to the left middle finger and left forearm in addition she had three drops of blood on two different fingers of the right hand.

She had puncture wound on her back not on her hands. Please reread the autopsy report. Here's the link again.

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&...TItOWM1Mi00NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5&hl=en :r

The medical examiner has listed some of the abrasions as punctate - that mean a puncture. The others he has listed their size. They are like scratches. They are all pretty small and in accordance with hitting the tree. The ones on her back, arms, and hands are very small, the largest being 5/8 of an inch long.

And from page 6 of the autopsy report:

"Scattered superficial abrasions on her back and legs appeared consistant with large plants under the balcony."

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

And her hands were bound with how many loops of rope? IMO her hands were really quite protected from the plant and anything else. And i have that same cactus tree and it does not have thorns. Which, BTW, the plant was one of the first things demoed from the house when the house "SOLD" (which it did not get sold we all now know).

It may not have "thorns" but it is prickly and can stick you! I'd have take that tree out too. It is ugly.

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

And her hands were bound with how many loops of rope? IMO her hands were really quite protected from the plant and anything else. And i have that same cactus tree and it does not have thorns. Which, BTW, the plant was one of the first things demoed from the house when the house "SOLD" (which it did not get sold we all now know).

BTW, what is the name of that tree?

 

[freespeech]

Dina states that Rebecca was a Jui Jitsu master in the Boy Interrupted article.

All of the wounds you listed were small and could never be considered defensive wounds, IMO. And all were caused by the cactus tree she hit. Did you not see the barbs on that thing?

The DNA under her only ONE of her nails was trace and so slight it could not yield any results. So no defending herself there, either. That information is on the SDSO site.

Was Dina's statement verified to be truthful? Did she back it up with facts?

Also, i believe I am correct in saying that wounds to the hands of a murdered person are generally thought to probably be related to the victim attempting to defend themselves. Since the blood on the fingers does not appear to have been tested then I believe this falls under the purpose of this thread for evidence not tested.

 

[justice be served]

BTW, what is the name of that tree?

I have no idea but it is a type of euphorbia. It was discussed at length on much earlier threads and there is a picture of it and is named.Too bad it no longer exists at the house for a recreation of the swan dive off the balcony that some believe happened.i believe she was strung up from below.

 

[freespeech]

The medical examiner has listed some of the abrasions as punctate - that mean a puncture. The others he has listed their size. They are like scratches. They are all pretty small and in accordance with hitting the tree. The ones on her back, arms, and hands are very small, the largest being 5/8 of an inch long.

And from page 6 of the autopsy report:

"Scattered superficial abrasions on her back and legs appeared consistant with large plants under the balcony."

The wounds to the back are punctate as in puncture.

The wounds to the upper extremities were not described as punctures as in punctate but as abrasions as in abraded skin.

I know this is confusing. I'm trying very hard to keep all this straight in my own mind.

There were so many different types of wounds all over her body. Her head had the facial scratches that you mentioned but then there were also the four separate hemorrhages to her scalp under internal injuries that Dr. Wecht said could have rendered her unconscious.

Then there are the many puncture wounds to her back and the large abrasions to her shoulder. There are the nine ABRASIONS not punctures to her upper extremities and multiple bruises and contusions to her legs that I haven't even counted yet. I like to keep the link to the autopsy report close so that I can continually reference it with my posts.

https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B54...NGE4LWEyZDgtMjc3OWUxZTYzYmY5/edit?hl=en&pli=1

 

[freespeech]

I agree, but this is the best we have. And this is not the full version from what I understand, but only the first part until he was connected to someone else.

Anne Bremner can release it, but she had not.

BBM

Do you have a link to substantiate the bolded statements?

 

[freespeech]

Ok, I think the YouTube one must have come from:

http://www.cbs8.com/story/16150816/911-call-released-in-hanging-death-at-coronados-spreckels-mansion

I believe this contains the same amount of tape, but don't hold me to that. Hey, I have a cousin Jed, too!

Please post this on the appropriate thread. This thread is for discussing evidence not tested. There is a 9-1-1 thread.

However, as I type this I realize that there missing section of the 9-1-1 tape that would constitute evidence not tested so never mind.

 

[CuriousGeorgia]

BBM[/B]

Do you have a link to substantiate the bolded statements?

The first is stated in the article that accompanies the tape.

As to the second, Anne received all the files which include the tape. She can release it if she wants to.