"Exhibit C" Cindy and Nejame Emails

[drip~drop]

OMG...how sad...but true....

Geez, didn't even think of that and the poster seems to live in Fl. Yup, she'd have to duck.:rubberducky:

Here ya go Mr. NeJames>>>

Come visit me Jose.:woohoo::woohoo:

:cow:

 

[LancelotLink]

She out and out lied and said Yuri threatened her when she said she would call her mother rather than Yuri going personally to see her. What was he supposed to say, Oh, okay Cindy if you say so, we'll just cancel that visit. And by the way anyone else you don't want me to question, just let me know and I won't. What is that you say? Casey is innocent and should be let out - oh, okay, we'll get right on it.

And Casey needed to be out on bond rather than injail so she could help in the search for Caylee and how did she do that when she got out. Well lets see, she at first called her mother a f#$$ing idiot and was repremanded by her friend Annie I believe, and yes she suggested they put out fliers. But as far as looking at a map or talking about Zanny the Nanny (which by the way is a book that she owned for Caylee) - more unbelievable as we look closer - that was the extent. George did say she was very helpful with the idea of putting out fliers.

Excellent point! Let's see, LE have a missing child, a mother who reminds them of Susan Smith and a family who ALL gave June 9th as the last day they saw the child. Hmm. Oh, what's this? The video has a date stamp of June 15.
CA wanted LE to do what? Give her twenty-four hours?
The same woman who wouldn't hand over JC Penney receipts?

 

[drip~drop]

I wish Cindy would "get it" because she has done so much damage to so many people. But I think the first step in the grieving process is acceptance - and I hope that she has finally accepted that Caylee is in fact dead. But it's pretty clear she has not and cannot accept that ICA has done this thing. Look at all the low life people and charlatans she's gathered around her to shore up her belief Caylee didn't die by ICA's hand - that her daughter is a monster and has done this terrible thing. She has Brad telling her and the world there was no duct tape, she has JB and most of his team telling her ICA is innocent, and we've seen just how flakey Dom, Ginny and "Luke" are. Cindy reminds me sadly of an animal in a trap - flailing around snapping and fighting - refusing to believe the inevitable and hurting herself and more importantly every other innocent person around her in the process. I'm way beyond anger - I'm disgusted and think she's just a sick pathetic individual. I can only hope the closer we get to the trial, the more any avenue of escape from the truth will narrow and narrow even more - until finally there is no escape at all. ICA is guilty.

Kudos on a well thought out post.
Just one thing.

I believe that "Cindy gets it."
She is not dumb, inept, weak nor meek.
She may have been stronger OR weaker before that last day in June that she physically saw Caylee.
But, She "gets it"
She "GETS IT" , IMO, quite well.
:cow:

 

[Apex-mom]

OMG! MG uses proper sentence structure...AND correct punctuation?!!? Fluid thoughts AND complete sentences??? NO MIS-SPELLINGS???? I am so used to Cindy's bull$hit casual mis-spelled nonsensical writing that he looks like a SCHOLAR compared to her!

Not to mention he is speaking the truth, that's a nice PLUS, eh?

Justice for Caylee

 

[wonders]

I wish Cindy would "get it" because she has done so much damage to so many people. But I think the first step in the grieving process is acceptance - and I hope that she has finally accepted that Caylee is in fact dead. But it's pretty clear she has not and cannot accept that ICA has done this thing. Look at all the low life people and charlatans she's gathered around her to shore up her belief Caylee didn't die by ICA's hand - that her daughter is a monster and has done this terrible thing. She has Brad telling her and the world there was no duct tape, she has JB and most of his team telling her ICA is innocent, and we've seen just how flakey Dom, Ginny and "Luke" are. Cindy reminds me sadly of an animal in a trap - flailing around snapping and fighting - refusing to believe the inevitable and hurting herself and more importantly every other innocent person around her in the process. I'm way beyond anger - I'm disgusted and think she's just a sick pathetic individual. I can only hope the closer we get to the trial, the more any avenue of escape from the truth will narrow and narrow even more - until finally there is no escape at all. ICA is guilty.

I mean no disrespect to your post what-so-ever logicalgirl.

Cindy does get it...She just wants you to think she dosen't.
Acceptance is the last step in grieving. Cindy has accepted that Caylee was murdered by Casey, no matter what she says today, tomorrow or 10 years down the road to try to convince you otherwise.
Caylee's remains were found with duck tape and other belongings from the Anthony home. Caylee's decomp oder is in the trunk of the car Casey drove. ( I don't care what the Anthony's say about the oder and what it is or who it is ). They have the DNA from Caylee. They have Caylee's death certificate displayed in Caylee's room. They had a memorial (to spin IMO) for Caylee. Cindy has Caylee's handprint on a mirror that she will never wipe off. George and Cindy have Caylee's cremated remains in jewelry. George and Cindy have Caylee memorial tattoos on their bodies. IMO these actions speak louder than words.
I don't think Cindy is a "sick pathetic individual", I think she is a mean, vindictive, bitter person who has always been a bully her whole life.
All is just my opinion of course.

 

[LinasK]

They have the DNA from Caylee. They have Caylee's death certificate displayed in Caylee's room. They had a memorial (to spin IMO) for Caylee. Cindy has Caylee's handprint on a mirror that she will never wipe off. George and Cindy have Caylee's cremated remains in jewelry. George and Cindy have Caylee memorial tattoos on their bodies.

Exactly! One doesn't take these kinds of actions if you honestly believe that it's someone else's body. If you do, then clearly you would have mental problems- Caylee doesn't have a clone running around in Newport Beach, CA.

 

[JSR]

If only George had the guts to speak to her this directly..... *huge sigh*

The only problem beach with that is George would be six feet under if he did. I honestly think that Casey is not the homical person in that horrid family. Truly. It's scary to think someone like Cindy is roaming free when she too could snap like Casey did. Although I think Casey is far more vindictive than Cindy.

 

[countzero]

I mean no disrespect to your post what-so-ever logicalgirl.

Cindy does get it...She just wants you to think she dosen't.
Acceptance is the last step in grieving. Cindy has accepted that Caylee was murdered by Casey, no matter what she says today, tomorrow or 10 years down the road to try to convince you otherwise.
Caylee's remains were found with duck tape and other belongings from the Anthony home. Caylee's decomp oder is in the trunk of the car Casey drove. ( I don't care what the Anthony's say about the oder and what it is or who it is ). They have the DNA from Caylee. They have Caylee's death certificate displayed in Caylee's room. They had a memorial (to spin IMO) for Caylee. Cindy has Caylee's handprint on a mirror that she will never wipe off. George and Cindy have Caylee's cremated remains in jewelry. George and Cindy have Caylee memorial tattoos on their bodies. IMO these actions speak louder than words.
I don't think Cindy is a "sick pathetic individual", I think she is a mean, vindictive, bitter person who has always been a bully her whole life.
All is just my opinion of course.

rbbm: And the thanks button just wasn't enough for me.

We, the majority of the public, get it, Mark gets it, LE/FBI/SAO gets it, BC gets it. CA gets it but wants a do-over, but she knows Caylee is gone and ICA is ultimately responsible for it and CA is secondarily responsible for it. CA gets it.

Bravo to Mark to keep the dialog going with CA. He is getting CA/GA to talk more truth (contradictions to their prior statements of course) than anyone has. If nothing else, it gets a response out of her and maybe, just maybe there will be more slips of the tongues that they cannot back track on. So far, it's working.

 

[logicalgirl]

Kudos on a well thought out post.
Just one thing.

I believe that "Cindy gets it."
She is not dumb, inept, weak nor meek.
She may have been stronger OR weaker before that last day in June that she physically saw Caylee.
But, She "gets it"
She "GETS IT" , IMO, quite well.
:cow:

I wish I could agree but from where I sit, most of the garbage she pulls actually harms the defense of ICA rather than assists her. I haven't seen her make one move that looked well thought out was actually of any assistance to Mr. Baez. To me she is an out of control wild animal caught in a trap - blindly biting and snapping at anything and anyone within hurting distance. If she was actually masterminding this I really believe we'd actually give even a moments notice of some of the stuff she is pulling instead of always reacting with disgust like we do. I think she's so out of it she isn't even aware of how negatively anyone who is watching this process views her.

 

[logicalgirl]

Exactly! One doesn't take these kinds of actions if you honestly believe that it's someone else's body. If you do, then clearly you would have mental problems- Caylee doesn't have a clone running around in Newport Beach, CA.

And I mean no disrespect Linask, but did we ever question whether or not Cindy has mental problems? Seriously? Of course she does! Certifiable through the last couple of years, at least.

 

[logicalgirl]

I mean no disrespect to your post what-so-ever logicalgirl.

Cindy does get it...She just wants you to think she dosen't.
Acceptance is the last step in grieving. Cindy has accepted that Caylee was murdered by Casey, no matter what she says today, tomorrow or 10 years down the road to try to convince you otherwise.
Caylee's remains were found with duck tape and other belongings from the Anthony home. Caylee's decomp oder is in the trunk of the car Casey drove. ( I don't care what the Anthony's say about the oder and what it is or who it is ). They have the DNA from Caylee. They have Caylee's death certificate displayed in Caylee's room. They had a memorial (to spin IMO) for Caylee. Cindy has Caylee's handprint on a mirror that she will never wipe off. George and Cindy have Caylee's cremated remains in jewelry. George and Cindy have Caylee memorial tattoos on their bodies. IMO these actions speak louder than words.
I don't think Cindy is a "sick pathetic individual", I think she is a mean, vindictive, bitter person who has always been a bully her whole life.
All is just my opinion of course.

Agree with most of what you say - however when someone makes you angry - you give them a piece of your personal power and soul - I'm not prepared to do that. Cindy doesn't influence me one little bit - I'm leaving her in the sad and pathetic corner - and I hope someone finds a nice quiet place with a lock on the outside of the door and some nice meds for her to rest up when this trial is over.

 

[logicalgirl]

rbbm: And the thanks button just wasn't enough for me.

We, the majority of the public, get it, Mark gets it, LE/FBI/SAO gets it, BC gets it. CA gets it but wants a do-over, but she knows Caylee is gone and ICA is ultimately responsible for it and CA is secondarily responsible for it. CA gets it.

Bravo to Mark to keep the dialog going with CA. He is getting CA/GA to talk more truth (contradictions to their prior statements of course) than anyone has. If nothing else, it gets a response out of her and maybe, just maybe there will be more slips of the tongues that they cannot back track on. So far, it's working.

I am very aware that 99% of the good folks on this forum "think" she gets it, but we don't "know" that - we assume it by her actions. I agree on some level, she absolutely does "get it" but but strongly believe she isn't willing to accept it fully on a conscious level. And I don't believe she gives a rats azz in he77 what we or anyone else "out here" thinks.

And once again, as I've said many times before - in no way do I excuse or forgive or condone any action of Cindy's. Most of it has been despicable!

 

[Gma Kat]

Great point! Is this what you are looking for?
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24581637/detail.html

Thanks LLL! I was wondering how this exchange began. Was this a letter sent to MN on behalf of JB in support of their TES motion? It appears to have been filed with the clerk as an exhibit, which I assume would be to a motion in the neverending TES searcher saga......

I still don't understand why JB would send the emails to Beth Karas.......:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Or why ANYONE with half a brain (perhaps giving us an indication of how large JB's brain really is....) would involve the Anthony family anymore in anything relating to this case. They are media suicide and jury pools are just going to be infested with the Anthony's malaria infested rhetoric that more often than not indicates how extremely out-of-touch with reality this family was, is, and will always be.......

I seldom get angry over this case anymore....such wasted energy.....but this thread just goes to show that even MY imagination can't make this stuff up....

 

[Gma Kat]

Agree with most of what you say - however when someone makes you angry - you give them a piece of your personal power and soul - I'm not prepared to do that. Cindy doesn't influence me one little bit - I'm leaving her in the sad and pathetic corner - and I hope someone finds a nice quiet place with a lock on the outside of the door and some nice meds for her to rest up when this trial is over.

bbm: As always logicalgirl, pearls of wisdom.....:blowkiss:

 

[ZsaZsa]

Thanks LLL! I was wondering how this exchange began. Was this a letter sent to MN on behalf of JB in support of their TES motion? It appears to have been filed with the clerk as an exhibit, which I assume would be to a motion in the neverending TES searcher saga......

I still don't understand why JB would send the emails to Beth Karas.......:banghead::banghead::banghead:

Or why ANYONE with half a brain (perhaps giving us an indication of how large JB's brain really is....) would involve the Anthony family anymore in anything relating to this case. They are media suicide and jury pools are just going to be infested with the Anthony's malaria infested rhetoric that more often than not indicates how extremely out-of-touch with reality this family was, is, and will always be.......

I seldom get angry over this case anymore....such wasted energy.....but this thread just goes to show that even MY imagination can't make this stuff up....

Beth Karas' commentaries on the case are always heavily sympathetic to ICA and her family and I often sit there with my mouth open at the factual errors she makes
Now we know why. She gets supplied with "inside information" for what it's worth.

 

[Gma Kat]

I wish I could agree but from where I sit, most of the garbage she pulls actually harms the defense of ICA rather than assists her. I haven't seen her make one move that looked well thought out was actually of any assistance to Mr. Baez. To me she is an out of control wild animal caught in a trap - blindly biting and snapping at anything and anyone within hurting distance. If she was actually masterminding this I really believe we'd actually give even a moments notice of some of the stuff she is pulling instead of always reacting with disgust like we do. I think she's so out of it she isn't even aware of how negatively anyone who is watching this process views her.

ITA.....and I can't begin to imagine the hell that goes on daily in her life,,,what we see (the behavior, the anger, the craziness) is no doubt the tip of the iceberg.....for every creepy bizarre, unethical, disgusting public act we see from CA.....how many more are there damaging innocent people that we don't see? She's probably ruining lives left and right to further their "cause".......which we are still somewhat unsure what their cause even is anymore.....Justice for Caylee??? Hardly, finding the true perp, hardly, assisting LE/SA? Hardly, protecting their family - hardly.......The A's have done more damage to their own family than perhaps even ICA had up to this point......

Once this case is over in 2011, I hope we NEVER hear from these people again. EVER.

 

[Gma Kat]

Beth Karas' commentaries on the case are always heavily sympathetic to ICA and her family and I often sit there with my mouth open at the factual errors she makes
Now we know why. She gets supplied with "inside information" for what it's worth.

That is interesting ZsaZsa.....I have only heard Beth Karas speak once on this case, and she was once my favorite legal analyst......

At some point or another during this case they have all shown their ignorance of the facts and misreported things......I'm always surprised at their emotional involvement in the case as well......so much for objective journalism....the title of her book...."KC's innocence as leaked to me by JB"....:dance:

 

[LancelotLink]

I mean no disrespect to your post what-so-ever logicalgirl.

Cindy does get it...She just wants you to think she dosen't.
Acceptance is the last step in grieving. Cindy has accepted that Caylee was murdered by Casey, no matter what she says today, tomorrow or 10 years down the road to try to convince you otherwise.
Caylee's remains were found with duck tape and other belongings from the Anthony home. Caylee's decomp oder is in the trunk of the car Casey drove. ( I don't care what the Anthony's say about the oder and what it is or who it is ). They have the DNA from Caylee. They have Caylee's death certificate displayed in Caylee's room. They had a memorial (to spin IMO) for Caylee. Cindy has Caylee's handprint on a mirror that she will never wipe off. George and Cindy have Caylee's cremated remains in jewelry. George and Cindy have Caylee memorial tattoos on their bodies. IMO these actions speak louder than words.
I don't think Cindy is a "sick pathetic individual", I think she is a mean, vindictive, bitter person who has always been a bully her whole life.
All is just my opinion of course.

Crud! I think I just broke the thank you button by hitting it 100 times!

 

[Leila]

BBM... because that HAS been said to them, Ad nauseum.

Two years after the fact, we can go right ahead and assume he's offered "my condolences", again, Ad nauseum. "Their position" has also been considered (say it with me now...) Ad nauseum. And yet, the Anthonys still keep harping and harping on certain things which have been proven AD NAUSEUM to be their own made up lies. How nice are people supposed to be? After a while, I want some return compassion from these people. Show me one ounce of compassion they've ever displayed for Caylee. I am not going to "err on the side of compassion and patience" anymore, and clearly neither is Mark NeJame. Enough.

I agree 100%! It's now more than two years after the fact, and the Anthonys pull the "grieving grandparents" card whenever they're back into a corner with their lies exposed.

Sadly, children die every day.......some from disease, some in car or household accidents, and a few by murder. The vast majority of those murdered, are murdered by a parent. Most of those children have grandparents.

In these other cases, the grandparents are grief-stricken, as anyone would be. But, they deal with their grief through time and the support of family and friends. They deal with the reality that their child, their son or daughter, committed a terrible crime. They pick up the pieces and go on with their lives, eventually returning to work and some sense of normalcy.

They don't try to obstruct justice, tamper with evidence, try to blame innocent people for their child's crime, lie to cover for their child's crime, attack the media and law enforcement, and go on television and make a spectacle of themselves. And, they don't try to make a financial profit from their child's crime.

The Anthonys are the anomaly. They are the lone grandparents who've pulled out all the stops to cover for their daughter's crime. They say they're grieving grandparents. But for whom do they grieve? I don't think they grieve for Caylee as much as they grieve for Casey. As for Cindy, I think she grieves the loss of power, when she was in control and didn't have to answer to a higher authority.

 

[ks1]

Once this case is over in 2011, I hope we NEVER hear from these people again. EVER.

Amen to that!