Family battling Children’s Hospital to bring teen home for Christmas

[CHERIE.T]

Hard to believe I know.

He has the patience of a saint and compassion of Mother Teresa.

 

[Gardenlady]

The load IS huge, unfortunately. All states need more staff - for the sake of the children who need help, and for the workers as well. Burnout is common due to what is seen on the job. . And overworked staff in any field cannot do an optimal job, which with something like DCF especially we need them to be able to do.

Unfortunately, though, agencies like DCF are often made into bogeymen for political reasons, and for this and other reasons people aren't always willing to increase funding to meet the staffing needs.

 

[jjenny]

Well I've known some very medically fragile people that have required hospitalization for the flu.

"Weak" before during and after the flu IMO wouldn't warrant a 3 hour ambulance drive in a blizzard to a hospital, when there is a much much closer one.


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It has been reported by numerous msm sources that she went to Boston's to see Dr. Flores, a GI specialist. At the recommendation of Dr. Korson.
I have no clue as to what else to say on the matter.

 

[jjenny]

The load IS huge, unfortunately. All states need more staff - for the sake of the children who need help, and for the workers as well. Burnout is common due to what is seen on the job. . And overworked staff in any field cannot do an optimal job, which with something like DCF especially we need them to be able to do.

Unfortunately, though, agencies like DCF are often made into bogeymen for political reasons, and for this and other reasons people aren't always willing to increase funding to meet the staffing needs.

Well of course the load is huge. Especially if DCF is going to take children like Justina and lock them up in psychiatric hospitals. What help did Justina need from DCF? Absolutely none as far as I can tell. Even assuming she has somatoform (which I don't buy for a millisecond), why put her in secure psychiatric ward? Was she a danger to anyone? This girl can't even walk, who was she a danger to?

 

[Linda7NJ]

Hard to believe I know.

He has the patience of a saint and compassion of Mother Teresa.

And the blood pressure of a zombie and the stomach of the tin man and the ability to sleep like rip van winkle!


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[Linda7NJ]

Well of course the load is huge. Especially if DCF is going to take children like Justina and lock them up in psychiatric hospitals. What help did Justina need from DCF? Absolutely none as far as I can tell. Even assuming she has somatoform (which I don't buy for a millisecond), why put her in secure psychiatric ward? Was she a danger to anyone? This girl can't even walk, who was she a danger to?

The court believes her parents are a threat to her health and that she needs intensive round the clock care and a safe place to live.


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[jjenny]

The court believes her parents are a threat to her health and that she needs intensive round the clock care and a safe place to live.


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Based on what? She has a safe place to live-that's called her home.
This child wants to go home.
Her parents were taking good care of her. She was ice skating a short time prior to ending up in Children's.
She was going to school.
DCF took her and send her to a secure psychiatric ward.
How is she better off there?
Now DCF send her to be treated back at Tuft's.
How does DCF justifies keeping her away from her parents since DCF is now doing the same thing parents did-allowing Dr. Korson to treat her.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Based on what? She has a safe place to live-that's called her home.

This child wants to go home.

Her parents were taking good care of her. She was ice skating a short time prior to ending up in Children's.

She was going to school.

DCF took her and send her to a secure psychiatric ward.

How is she better off there?

Now DCF send her to be treated back at Tuft's.

How does DCF justifies keeping her away from her parents since DCF is now doing the same thing parents did-allowing Dr. Korson to treat her.

And we are back to square one.

Read the court order.


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[jjenny]

And we are back to square one.

Read the court order.


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What in the world makes you think I didn't?

 

[Linda7NJ]

We are back to square one.


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[Donjeta]

I came across this March 27th article today that I don't think has been previously linked here:

DCF Defends Actions In Pelletier Custody Fight

The Courant
By WILLIAM WEIR,
6:47 pm, March 27, 2014

"The state Department of Children and Families is defending its actions in the case of Justina Pelletier after a Massachusetts judge criticized the department for not officially taking on the custody case of the 15-year-old West Hartford girl."

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"Connecticut DCF Commissioner Joette Katz said in statement released after Johnston's ruling that the Pelletiers did not give the agency permission to conduct an evaluation until March 10 of this year."

Well, there's alot more...

http://touch.courant.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79748187/

Well, they can't have been that worried for Justina's health and mental well being in that locked psychiatric ward then....?!? If they have a loving home and nothing to hide and wanted her out of there ASAP it made no sense as Justina could have been home months ago if the Connecticut DCF evaluated and plainly saw that her parents are perfectly capable and concerned for her well being.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Well, they can't have been that worried for Justina's health and mental well being in that locked psychiatric ward then....?!? If they have a loving home and nothing to hide and wanted her out of there ASAP it made no sense as Justina could have been home months ago if the Connecticut DCF evaluated and plainly saw that her parents are perfectly capable and concerned for her well being.

Yeah that March 10th date sure raises my eyebrow!


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[Donjeta]

How did CT find the parents negligent?
The child was living with the parents in CT. Not in the custody of DCF.
Sounds to me like MA DCF contacted CT DCF after MA DCF removed the child from parents at the request of Children's. And CT DCF just rubber stamped whatever paperwork MA DCF gave them.
Nothing more.
They didn't find the home "not appropriate." They have not done any investigation of the home as of yet.
If you read the judge's "ruling" he says CT DCF will have to evaluate the home.
So they haven't done any investigation or evaluation yet.

http://touch.courant.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79748187/

Apparently they have not done a full evaluation but they have done some investigation as Connecticut DCF visited the home twice last year, according to the father, and might have seen something that gave them concern?

Earlier this week, Lou Pelletier said that Connecticut DCF officials had visited their house twice last year and that "we passed with flying colors." But two weeks after Johnston ruled in December that Justina would remain in the custody of Massachusetts, he said, Connecticut officials went along with the judge's decision.

The judge, in his ruling, said that the court asked Connecticut DCF in December to investigate the "potential placement" of Justina with her parents and, two weeks later, was told by the agency that it had "substantiated the parents for neglect" of Justina and recommended against returning the girl to her parents.

 

[jjenny]

http://touch.courant.com/#section/-1/article/p2p-79748187/

Apparently they have not done a full evaluation but they have done some investigation as Connecticut DCF visited the home twice last year, according to the father, and might have seen something that gave them concern?

What concern? The child was doing better while at home. Then after over a year in the custody of DCF she is in a wheelchair. There are plenty of children actually abused. DCF should concentrate on them and return Justina to her parents. This child wants to return home. I fail to see what right DCF had to remove her to begin with. Per law, parents have a right to decide what treatments to follow if there is medical disagreement. What was done here doesn't even appear to be legal.

 

[Linda7NJ]

What concern? The child was doing well while at home. Then in the custody of DCF she can't even walk. There are plenty of children actually abused. DCF should concentrate on them and return Justina to her parents. This child wants to return home. I fail to see what right DCF had to remove her to begin with. Per law, parents have a right to decide what treatments to follow if there is medical disagreement. DCF and Children's should be sued to high heaven for all of this.

All children want to go home. Abused or not.

What she wants is irrelevant, my kid thought I'd buy him a motorcycle. He really wanted one. Ain't happening!


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[jjenny]

All children want to go home. Abused or not.

What she wants is irrelevant, my kid thought I'd buy him a motorcycle. He really wanted one. Ain't happening!


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Do you think he would enjoy being in a secure psychiatric ward? Sounds like fun, no?

 

[Donjeta]

Well, there are a ton of things that could cause DCF concern so I suppose we would have to see the DCF reports to know what particular concern there was in this case, if any.

It was reported that she already couldn't walk when they took her to the hospital.

 

[jjenny]

Well, there are a ton of things that could cause DCF concern so I suppose we would have to see the DCF reports to know what particular concern there was in this case, if any.

It was reported that she already couldn't walk when they took her to the hospital.

DCF can be concerned all it wants. There has to be immediate danger to the child's well being for DCF to remove the child from parental custody. I fail to see how what DCF did here is even remotely legal.

 

[Donjeta]

Do you think he would enjoy being in a secure psychiatric ward? Sounds like fun, no?

That is why it's very hard for me to understand why the parents concentrated on making lots of hue and cry and not doing the things that could have gotten her out of there.

 

[Donjeta]

DCF can be concerned all it wants. There has to be immediate danger to the child's well being for DCF to remove the child from parental custody. I fail to see how what DCF did here is even remotely legal.

So do we assume that the judge who made the custody decision is not aware of the laws?