Family battling Children’s Hospital to bring teen home for Christmas

[MyBelle]

ironic huh?


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I think the reason they went hospital shopping in MA is because they don't have health insurance and wanted to glob on to MA's historic health care law.

 

[Linda7NJ]

Here's some links. Hope they help..

http://www.acf.hhs.gov/cwpm/programs/cb/laws_policies/laws/cwpm/policy.jsp?idFlag=8

http://www.aphsa.org/content/AAICPC/en/home.html


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[Morag]

are either of her parents employed? I read somewhere that her father is a financial planner. Apparently not a very good one if their house is in foreclosure.

When this was mentioned last night, I went to the Connecticut Foreclosure site. Sure enough, there it was, auction scheduled for 4/26/2014, at noon, with a check of either 62,000 or 55,000 required (can't recall, due to numerous previous foreclosures with those amounts mentioned), but....it was marked "Auction Canceled". So apparently, luckily,they were able to come up with the money to forestall the auction.

Today when I went to the same site (I think), I couldn't find it. Wonder where they got the money from?

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

Huh? There is no dispute Justina was seen by BCH. Doesn't matter if it was recommended or not or by whom.

JMO

You guys are stating that it is a big issue because she went to BCH. Some have even stated that they don't believe tufts would refer a person. I am simply clearing it up by saying that the tufts Dr, has come out and said that he did tell her parents to take Justina to BCH.

 

[Linda7NJ]

You guys are stating that it is a big issue because she went to BCH. Some have even stated that they don't believe tufts would refer a person. I am simply clearing it up by saying that the tufts Dr, has come out and said that he did tell her parents to take Justina to BCH.

I've said, I do not believe Tufts initiated and recommended she be transferred to another hospital, via ambulance.. during a blizzard ...for flu symptoms.

No way.

IMO


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[Linda7NJ]

When this was mentioned last night, I went to the Connecticut Foreclosure site. Sure enough, there it was, auction scheduled for 4/26/2014, at noon, with a check of either 62,000 or 55,000 required (can't recall, due to numerous previous foreclosures with those amounts mentioned), but....it was marked "Auction Canceled". So apparently, luckily,they were able to come up with the money to forestall the auction.



Today when I went to the same site (I think), I couldn't find it. Wonder where they got the money from?

Wasn't that $ 55,000 amount the minimum amount required to bid, at auction, to satisfy the remaining amount owed on the house to the mortgage holder?


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[MyBelle]

When this was mentioned last night, I went to the Connecticut Foreclosure site. Sure enough, there it was, auction scheduled for 4/26/2014, at noon, with a check of either 62,000 or 55,000 required (can't recall, due to numerous previous foreclosures with those amounts mentioned), but....it was marked "Auction Canceled". So apparently, luckily,they were able to come up with the money to forestall the auction.

Today when I went to the same site (I think), I couldn't find it. Wonder where they got the money from?

From suckers who are buying their brand of b.s. is my best guess.

 

[MyBelle]

You guys are stating that it is a big issue because she went to BCH. Some have even stated that they don't believe tufts would refer a person. I am simply clearing it up by saying that the tufts Dr, has come out and said that he did tell her parents to take Justina to BCH.

A link would clear it up. Thanks.

 

[MyBelle]

I've said, I do not believe Tufts initiated and recommended she be transferred to another hospital, via ambulance.. during a blizzard ...for flu symptoms.

No way.

IMO


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Have you noticed there seems to be a misguided notion that repetition of nonsense will morph it into truth?

I think it is only a matter of time before the Tufts legal team starts pumping out the cease and desist letters.

 

[MyBelle]

Wasn't that $ 55,000 amount the minimum amount required to bid, at auction, to satisfy the remaining amount owed on the house to the mortgage holder?


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Do we know if the family still resides there? It's possible the reason CT refuses to accept jurisdiction is because the family is neither living or employed in CT.

JMO

 

[Blue_Dolphin308]

It was in the Boston article. I can't remember which one, but I remember a doctor from Tufts speaking out

 

[Gardenlady]

IMO getting another state to comply with interstate compact agreements is typically a huge pain in the arse...and often takes more than a year, if at all.

IMO Connecticut is using the void in the Interstate Compact Placement Agreement that fails to utilize the Agreement for medical / mental placements. Connecticut found a loop hole and is taking full advantage of it.



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This works out well for CT, doesn't it? They get to find the parents neglectful, and find that sending her home isn't wise, but yet they don't have to get their hands dirty, don't have to put up with the circuses (and in fact, Mass is even BETTER as a target for the circuses, since its well known to be a very liberal state), and don't have to pay for her care or the court processes!

Maybe CT needs an audit. :innocent:

 

[Linda7NJ]

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/15/justina/vnwzbbNdiodSD7WDTh6xZI/story.html

The Pelletiers had butted heads with other doctors in Connecticut — Justina’s pediatrician there would accuse them of doctor-shopping and “firing” multiple providers. And despite their fondness for Justina’s main doctors at Tufts, they had previously clashed with other members of the Tufts staff, who had filed an allegation of neglect with the Connecticut child-protection agency in late 2011.

The complaint alleged that the parents had not followed through on recommended mental health services as part of Justina’s overall care. It also cited Linda’s professed reluctance to assume responsibility for inserting a feeding tube into Justina at home. But the allegations were dismissed.


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[Linda7NJ]

It was in the Boston article. I can't remember which one, but I remember a doctor from Tufts speaking out

I just linked it...


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[Gardenlady]

I think the reason they went hospital shopping in MA is because they don't have health insurance and wanted to glob on to MA's historic health care law.

Hey, credit where it's due, we owe a lot of thanks to republican Mitt for that law.

Of course, that's when Mitt was a semi reasonable, liberalish Massachusetts republican (the only kind tha can ever get elected here lol) - before he made his sharp turn towards the loony right just in time for the presidential campaign. :crazy:

Thanks Mitt! We love our healthcare! :loveyou: we will even share it with abused children from CT!

 

[Linda7NJ]

This works out well for CT, doesn't it? They get to find the parents neglectful, and find that sending her home isn't wise, but yet they don't have to get their hands dirty, don't have to put up with the circuses (and in fact, Mass is even BETTER as a target for the circuses, since its well known to be a very liberal state), and don't have to pay for her care or the court processes!



Maybe CT needs an audit. :innocent:

What interesting... IMO now that Justina is in the custody of Massachusetts ... They would still be on the hook for payment ...even if they were able legally to skirt around the medical/medical exclusion of the ICPC agreement to get her there.

If they returned custody to her parents, it would be Connecticut's problem.
However, both states are in agreement that would be dangerous and not in the best interest of the child.




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[Linda7NJ]

I just linked it...


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From the article I linked

"Although he had given Justina a “working” diagnosis of mito, he acknowledged he couldn’t be 100 percent sure. "




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[i.b.nora]

In the video accompanying the second part Globe article there is a shot of an official document titled Child Abuse/Neglect Emergency Investigation, dated 2/22/13. Unfortunately the bulk of the document shown is blurred out, but the reporter does focus on one part which says:

"the (Connecticut) pediatrician stated that the parents encourage multiple medical diagnosis and multiple medical problems. They have fired multiple doctors in the past."

I think its written in the article as well.

I just get the feeling they have burned too many bridges in Connecticut.

This is a link to Part One. Get to Part Two from there after you have read Part One.

It is a must read, imo. It is a very good unbiased report. It is NOT an opinion piece.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/12/15/justina/vnwzbbNdiodSD7WDTh6xZI/story.html

 

[MyBelle]

From the article I linked

"Although he had given Justina a “working” diagnosis of mito, he acknowledged he couldn’t be 100 percent sure. "




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funny how that jumped out, eh? He also admitted he's been wrong several times in cases of suspected parental medical abuse. He comes across as a doctor who tells parents what they want to hear rather than what they need to hear because it is easier on him. I wonder how his superiors at Tufts view that tactic now that the Judge has ruled Tufts be brought back in.

 

[forthelost]

Just curious... Has everyone here actually READ the judges ruling?

Yes. It's the bit that suggested to me the parents were less than truthful.

I've repeatedly said it is possible the parents are entirely right in this case. Is anyone who is in support of the parents going to say it's possible BCH is right about something?