Family Press Conferences

[ThoughtFox]

I had the same reaction you did, ThoughtFox. I saw a father fighting for his kid - yelling at people to do the right thing. That, to me, is the most loving thing he can do right now.

Hey, listen - if Kyron was my child, I would be about a million times worse especially after 8 weeks. I don't know how parents in that situation hold it together in front of the public.

Anger is natural - that's the parental instinct taking over. :twocents: That's where the adrenalin comes from when people fight for their children's lives.

 

[Kimmer]

If Desiree never even considered that Terri is not responsible for whatever has befallen poor, sweet Kyron, then why did she allow Terri to raise her child?

IMHO, never even considering that someone else is responsible is tunnel vision, and right or wrong, they are making everything Terri does fit their preconceived notion.

Also right or wrong, Terri raised this child for most of his life, and if it was obvious to her that everyone suspected her, that she was not being given the benefit of the doubt, then of course she'd withdraw and be cold. That is not an abnormal reaction to this type of thing, especially if she's innocent.

I think the fact that TH has taken 2 polygraphs with poor results on both, she was making excuses to DY,KH, and TY as to the cell phone pings being wrong, and the facts that all have stated in the beginning her actions were not those of someone who had a missing step-son are all reasons to beleive that she is involved....I am sure there is much more that we don't know about that points directly to her involvement.

 

[1Chump]

Desiree wants anyone who's ever talked to Terri or Kyron about anything to come forward. Some anger from Kaine there in the beginning over hearing that people have said they are "afraid" to come forward regarding Terri or get involved. Anger in him clear as day. He expressed anger at people in general - anger anyone would not come forward out of fear. He scared me with that, and I don't frighten easily.

IMO, if you can go there in public on national news - and no one pushed Kaine - they just asked a question - then THAT angry emotion is not foreign to him. It's not foreign to Desiree either. She didn't even blink.

If I hadn't come forward yet with gym conversations I'd had with Terri because I thought they were irrelevant, I would NOT have been encouraged by that display of anger to come forward now. In fact, just the opposite. Because I would NOT want to get involved with that degree of anger. IMO, that was a bit of a back-fire, like the day he dissed the press.

Kaine also said Terri's preferred method of communication was digital. So, they want people to come forward with digital communication too.

(Wouldn't LE already have all of that based on cell & computer records?)

Important note: Desiree admits firmly that she believes Kyron's being held because 1) LE can't say for sure he's not alive, and 2) because that's what she prefers to believe - out of other options.

While I understand Desiree & Kaine holding out this hope completely - sadly there appears to be no factual reason for the belief Kyron is being held. IMO.


JMHO

I agree with you. They are asking ANYONE who ever talked to either of them. Not just those with information.

If I knew I had something relevant to offer, LE would have known long before now. But if I had spoke to them and did not feel that I had any relevant information, I would not come forward now.

I am sorry that Kyron is missing. I would do almost anything to help find Kyron except destroy my own family. If I came forward, I am risking someone deciding that I know more than I do. I am risking someone notifying the media that they feel I know more than I do and am refusing to cooperate. I am risking people harassing me and my family as well as making horrbile accussations about every aspect of my life and my families life. I just could not risk destroying my family because their family is destroyed by their child being missing.

I just could not risk hurting and/or destroying my family unless I was sure that I had real information that would help Kyron.

 

[Leila]

This is the statement that really caught my attention...I wonder if Terri's friend who visited Terri a day or so prior to Kyon going missing has been questioned. When Terri's fb was public I saw pics of the friend and her child. I just wonder why we haven't heard from this friend.

If it's the friend I'm thinking of, I would think LE is questioning her and any other friends she communicated with electronically. Kaine did mention TH's use of electronics - email, texting, etc.

 

[SuziQ]

The afraid to come forward part is really messing with my head.

Wonder what that could mean?

I hope and pray something breaks very soon for these two. I didn't see the presser but from what everyone posted (thank you) I don't think I could have stood it today. I would have started crying too!

IMO. Afraid means they are afraid of having their own lives interrupted, not that they are afraid of anyone. Well afraid for their own behind anyways. No excuse when a child is missing.

And then there are those who are going to be difficult and obtuse just because it's their constitutional right to be. There were quite a few of those in the Sandra Cantu case. JMO of course!

 

[MsFacetious]

Is the dogtag that Desiree is always wearing around her neck related to Kyron? Anyone know?

It is a police shield which talks about strength and courage. When Kyron went missing a Medford detective that Tony works with, drove the 4.5 hours to give it to Desiree. She never takes it off. That's one of those parts of the story that I think could be reported more... affairs reported less.

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Yes, they look more upset and more deflated.

We have to look at the date you guys.

In 40 days, it is Kyron's 8th birthday.

He has already been gone MORE than 40 days.

She should be planning a birthday party, buying birthday presents and taking her kids on vacation.

Instead she is doing press conferences begging for her missing child back, with the knowledge that someone knows where he is and simply isn't telling her.

If that isn't bad enough...that also means that 8 years ago today Desiree was locked in her bedroom crying because Terri was "stealing" her husband. (Not insulting Kaine here, just making a point.) There is a good chance that she is reliving the fact that 8 years ago this month or next month is when Terri entered Kyron's life. I can only imagine the "what if's" that would be going through my head in that situation.

Now, 8 years later she is crying because she feels Terri "stole" her son too. With the timing Kyron's disappearance was 8 years after Desiree found out about Terri, in the summer of 2002. Summer isn't a great time for her. Those two events tied together in the same time frame, 8 years apart would only make it worse.

Kaine's anger was because of hurt and fear. He was also crying while saying what he said. I cannot imagine the rage I would have. Can you imagine knowing that your child was out there, someone knew who had them and just didn't want to come forward for fear of "getting involved".

Yes, I think RAGE is perfectly appropriate in this situation :banghead:

 

[tiredblondy]

Desiree wants anyone who's ever talked to Terri or Kyron about anything to come forward. Some anger from Kaine there in the beginning over hearing that people have said they are "afraid" to come forward regarding Terri or get involved. Anger in him clear as day. He expressed anger at people in general - anger anyone would not come forward out of fear. He scared me with that, and I don't frighten easily.

IMO, if you can go there in public on national news - and no one pushed Kaine - they just asked a question - then THAT angry emotion is not foreign to him. It's not foreign to Desiree either. She didn't even blink.

If I hadn't come forward yet with gym conversations I'd had with Terri because I thought they were irrelevant, I would NOT have been encouraged by that display of anger to come forward now. In fact, just the opposite. Because I would NOT want to get involved with that degree of anger. IMO, that was a bit of a back-fire, like the day he dissed the press.

Kaine also said Terri's preferred method of communication was digital. So, they want people to come forward with digital communication too.

(Wouldn't LE already have all of that based on cell & computer records?)

JMHO

With all due respect my sweet Emma

That's not the impression I got, I got more anger from frustration and desperation that anyone would not come forward for any reason and his helplessness in this situation. I also could see from the first of the conference that he was more emotional than ever.

Something has happened. He knows Terri and, I suspect, DeDe are controlling everything with a child's life at stake! If it were me I don't think I could have gotten through that conference without turning around and punching the wall!

Another thing about Kaine I feel he is a very controlled person. I don't think he's used to having emotions surface and through this pain he is finding it harder and harder to keep it under control and no man can handle feeling HELPLESS.

My wonderful father was explosive and angered easily until he got older and mellowed out. His was the kind you ran away from. I did not see that today.

I just did not get the impression you did. :blowkiss:

I am so slow tying this response the thread will probably be closed by the time I finish.:angel:

 

[Emma Peel]

A reporter asked (finally) if they were aware of Terri having any relationships with some kind of "criminal element" where things may have gone astray...

Blank stares from both Desiree & Kaine, and a look at each other and then, a "no, no, nothing we could think of."

That's a question I have had for a long time. I take that as a no. Not that learning Terri had sketchy friends would be encouraging .... but ... it does make you wonder who she reached out to - for help. One would think - if not criminal element, then close confidant. If she reached out at all. And if, indeed, she did this to Kyron.

 

[liz b.]

They did not say that LE did not consider her a suspect they said that they have never heard that word in connection with TH from LE....She has not been cleared so that is all I need to know that she is a suspect.

Umm, no one has been cleared ? And LE often does not clear people. It's semantics,just a little,IMO. " Never used that word in connection with " Does not consider her.... Very,very similar...IMO

All JMO

 

[Sherbie]

If Desiree never even considered that Terri is not responsible for whatever has befallen poor, sweet Kyron, then why did she allow Terri to raise her child?

IMHO, never even considering that someone else is responsible is tunnel vision, and right or wrong, they are making everything Terri does fit their preconceived notion.

Also right or wrong, Terri raised this child for most of his life, and if it was obvious to her that everyone suspected her, that she was not being given the benefit of the doubt, then of course she'd withdraw and be cold. That is not an abnormal reaction to this type of thing, especially if she's innocent.

I have to disagree with that, Cypress. I don't care if everyone in the world suspected me of something -- if my precious son/stepson were missing, I would never shut down and not try to help. Never. They could do to me whatever later on, but no way I would not cooperate and help in every way I possibly could.

I know everyone handles things differently, but I think her reaction of withdrawing and being cold actually is very abnormal, at least to the extent that she wouldn't help for Kyron's sake! His welfare and safety comes far, far above anything she could be going through. I think most loving parents would put themselves a very distant second when their child is missing -- that would be the "normal" response to me.

 

[Chablis]

If Desiree never even considered that Terri is not responsible for whatever has befallen poor, sweet Kyron, then why did she allow Terri to raise her child?

IMHO, never even considering that someone else is responsible is tunnel vision, and right or wrong, they are making everything Terri does fit their preconceived notion.

Also right or wrong, Terri raised this child for most of his life, and if it was obvious to her that everyone suspected her, that she was not being given the benefit of the doubt, then of course she'd withdraw and be cold. That is not an abnormal reaction to this type of thing, especially if she's innocent.

Kyrons mother has been in his life forever, she raised him too, and shes not the one failing lie tests and sexting, please lets not cheapen Desirees role in her sons life. She isnt given the benefit of the doubt because she WANTED TO KILL KAINE, say the cops- Shes lying, her car is out by water that day, there are tons of reasons to doubt her.

 

[mydailyopinions]

If Desiree never even considered that Terri is not responsible for whatever has befallen poor, sweet Kyron, then why did she allow Terri to raise her child?

IMHO, never even considering that someone else is responsible is tunnel vision, and right or wrong, they are making everything Terri does fit their preconceived notion.

Also right or wrong, Terri raised this child for most of his life, and if it was obvious to her that everyone suspected her, that she was not being given the benefit of the doubt, then of course she'd withdraw and be cold. That is not an abnormal reaction to this type of thing, especially if she's innocent.

Terri has obviously never been given a reason till now to suspect that Terri would harm Kyron in any way. Her "surprisingly cold" statement furthered my opinion with that. It is obvious Terri kept in contact with Desiree by email and I feel more than likely many of the visitation plans and such were done through Terri. I've had this type of relationship with my stepson's biological mother..I understand it... Until the day out of the blue when she came to me and said she didn't want to be their mother anymore and was signing over her rights...That day, all of a sudden she was surprisingly cold..certainly not the mother I had come to know.
I've seen the best of the best go to the worst of the worst in day..it happens.. One thing is for sure (for Me) is that if Terri Horman loved Kyron on the day he disappeared..and she is innocent...we, nor anyone else would see a since of coldness..
To me it is no different than people who may know things that are not coming forward because of "selfishness", and I apologize but when you put yourself before a child that is the nicest thing I can say..

 

[SuziQ]

This may be a dumb question, but is it normal for LE to leave the victims' families so "out of the loop?" DY and KH today made it seem like they have gotten next to nothing from LE and are mainly just speaking on their own hunches, etc. I would have thought that LE would keep them informed, let them know the best course of action, etc etc....

Yes. Some families go for years not even knowing their loved ones Cause of death because it's part of an ongoing investigation.

 

[pdx]

A reporter asked (finally) if they were aware of Terri having any relationships with some kind of "criminal element" where things may have gone astray...

Blank stares from both Desiree & Kaine, and a look at each other and then, a "no, no, nothing we could think of."

That's a question I have had for a long time. I take that as a no. Not that learning Terri had sketchy friends would be encouraging .... but ... it does make you wonder who she reached out to - for help. One would think - if not criminal element, then close confidant. If she reached out at all. And if, indeed, she did this to Kyron.

Thank you for adding this Emma, I missed it in the typing but I think it was an important exchange (since much speculation has gone that direction, that TH got involved in something 'over her head').

 

[wvjules]

Do we have LE saying that TH isn't cooperating yet or is it still the word of KH, TY and DY?

Maybe TH is cooperating but KH and DY are so convinced that she is guilty that unless she tells them what happened (even if she truely doesn't know) they will think she is not cooperating, KWIM? (I know what I'm trying to say just not sure it is coming out right.)

 

[Patty G]

They did not say that LE did not consider her a suspect they said that they have never heard that word in connection with TH from LE....She has not been cleared so that is all I need to know that she is a suspect.

LE has never stated that TH is a suspect or even a POI. Not hearing the word suspect from LE pretty much states LE has not indicated to anyone TH is a suspect or POI. Once LE says the word, it will be splattered all over the place.

IIRC, at one Press Conference LE indicated no one was cleared with regards to this case.

 

[nanny2five]

thanks to everyone who transcribed this. its hugely appreciated by all of us who cant be watching. ya'll rock

 

[Patty G]

Do we have LE saying that TH isn't cooperating yet or is it still the word of KY, TY and DY?

Maybe TH is cooperating but KH and DY are so convinced that she is guilty that unless she tells them what happened (even if she truely doesn't know) they will think she is not cooperating, KWIM? (I know what I'm trying to say just not sure it is coming out right.)

IIRC, LE has stated that TH was cooperating until she hired an attorney.

 

[kappy50]

This PC was more telling to me. Is it possible, just remotely possible, Teri is clamming up because she knows something on someone that is involved, that they ALL possibly know. And a possible threat to Teri in regards to baby girl if she opened her mouth. Just a thought...JMO

 

[SuziQ]

IIRC, the medallion that DY is wearing is The Patron Saint of Police. I could be wrong.

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