Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #3

[Herat]

:floorlaugh:

Am not saying it would be right, but if CHO would allow trach an g-tube she may quickly be out the door and CHO could proceed with business as usual.

But CHO would have set a legal precedent for performing surgical procedures on a legally dead person, and there are still no physicians who will perform it.

Didn't I see that the judge turned down the family request to allow a physician not on CHO staff to perform the surgeries?

 

[Herat]

So. Nothing changes.

 

[Karmady]

If both sides have agreed to this, and the court has ruled WRT CHO not having to perform the surgeries or have another surgeon brought in to do them, then what is the hold up?

My head is spinning.

They don't want to remove her w/o the other procedures and the Fed Ct. says that issue had to appealed from a final ruling at the State Court level. Not to the Fed Ct. They now have a final appealable rulling from the state court, so next stop is the State Court of appeals. jmo

 

[momrids6]

Joy R ‏@JoyR16 4m
Courts decision to make removal gruesome as possible to make example? Not necessary. Oakland Hospital shockingly cold. #JahiMcMath #jahi


I would love to know exactly what this means. Someone want to give me twitter lessons- I would really like to tell some people what I think is gruesome

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

If both sides have agreed to this, and the court has ruled WRT CHO not having to perform the surgeries or have another surgeon brought in to do them, then what is the hold up?

My head is spinning.

Is the family going to attempt to remove Jahi from Children's Hospital and take her to another facility that will perform the surgery?

 

[krimekat]

Sorry folks, but I think Dolan will take this to state of California Supreme Court, and maybe even try for US Supreme Court if he doesn't get what he wants.

All the while CHO has the thankless task of taking care of her at their own request.

BBM above: and on their own dime IMHO

what other children are not getting needed attention because of this:banghead:

 

[Isabelle]

If both sides have agreed to this, and the court has ruled WRT CHO not having to perform the surgeries or have another surgeon brought in to do them, then what is the hold up?

My head is spinning.

Leilei long term facilities may require these procedures. An endotracheal tube is not as secure/safe an airway as a tracheostomy an this is a major problem. The g-tube not so much since an nasogastric tube would be acceptable. The hospital has effectively blocked any relief they could get in this case. I see it as cutting off the nose to spare the face!

 

[Herat]

If both sides have agreed to this, and the court has ruled WRT CHO not having to perform the surgeries or have another surgeon brought in to do them, then what is the hold up?

My head is spinning.

Sounds like Top Secret Care Facility requires a permanent tracheostomy and G-tube and CHO doesn't have to operate on the child.

If Top Secret Care Facility even really exists. :drumroll:

 

[Donjeta]

There is no where to send Jahi. It was a statement by the family's lawyer that they have a place and the judge knows where. I don't think that statement came out in court but before it reconvened. jmo

So, not the NBCC then?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

:floorlaugh:

Am not saying it would be right, but if CHO would allow trach an g-tube she may quickly be out the door and CHO could proceed with business as usual.

What if Jahi doesn't "survive" the procedures?

 

[Herat]

The hospital has effectively blocked any relief they could get in this case. I see it as cutting off the nose to spare the face!

I respectfully disagree

CHO does not want to perform a procedure that violates California law and medical ethics, and would have widespread negative implications for the medical judgement and practice of physicians and hospitals.

 

[popsicle]

apparently an NG is not acceptable or they wouldn't be requiring a gtube. jmo

 

[Herat]

So, not the NBCC then?

It's Top Secret Care Facility shhh. :facepalm:

 

[BeginnersLuck]

Is the family going to attempt to remove Jahi from Children's Hospital and take her to another facility that will perform the surgery?

There is no other facility. This means she remains at CHO until her heart gives out or a judge rules that the vent can be removed.

 

[Leilei]

http://www.insidebayarea.com/news/ci_24840745/jahi-mcmath-mom-can-remove-brain-dead-daughter

More information WRT today's hearing.

 

[momrids6]

https://twitter.com/search?q=#JahiMcMath&src=hash&f=realtime

SCROLL down

 

[BeginnersLuck]

The ball is now in the attorney/families court to produce said facility. The hospital is not legally responsible for what happens once she is removed from their facility. The attorney can no longer say that the hospital is blocking the family from removing Jahi.

 

[Leilei]

Okay, so from the article I just posted, they still have the Federal hearing this afternoon, and I imagine that Dolan will be filing an appeal with the State again due to the no surgery ruling.

Meanwhile, Jahi's mother has agreed to accept all health responsibility for Jahi, and they can remove her from CHO.

Is that correct?

 

[Kaliste]

I respectfully disagree



CHO does not want to perform a procedure that violates California law and medical ethics, and would have widespread negative implications for the medical judgement and practice of physicians and hospitals.

This is what blows my mind in this case. Why can't people comprehend that this isn't a case of CHO (or any hospital) not wanting to do the procedure it's a case of them LEGALLY and ETHICALLY unable to.

I have no doubt CHO wants Jahi and her family out of there as much, if not more, than the family wants out.

 

[popsicle]

Matthias Gafni ‏@mgafni 1m
Details of agreement between #JahiMcMath and @Hospital4Kids in court. Read here http://bit.ly/1i2zYEf #prayersforjahi