Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #4

[krimekat]

AFAIK, the mother assumes all responsibilities if Jahi's heart fails. So that way she can't say CHO killed her child when they are no longer taking care of her and sue for millions.

once Jahi is discharged from CHO

I truly think they are waiting for Jahi's heart to give out & then blame CHO, again!

So hope this goes to trial 'cause I'd love to follow it - opens up a new field of medicine IMHO

 

[popsicle]

Say what? Her father was reportedly in a coma for six weeks.

http://www.milieuli.com/2011/03/allyson-scerri/

Maybe she said 7 yrs ago..? oh gosh sorry, was fending off my dog from eating my dinner while watching! She DID say he was dx brain dead though.

 

[krimekat]

Jahi McMath, 13, was declared brain dead on Thursday, three days ... to write notes to her mother saying I'm swallowing too much mucus, mom — am I OK?

Thats what I was referring too, no child is gonna use the word mucus........I dont even use that word......

I assume the word would be snot . . . not mucus unless her Gma was teaching her grandkids medical jargon

 

[Karmady]

I assume the word would be snot . . . not mucus unless her Gma was teaching her grandkids medical jargon

around here it would be stuff from your nose...I hate the word snot

 

[Donjeta]

That's only vis-a-vis Children's. Not any other facility that is likely to have insurance. jmo

Is any facility likely to have insurance that covers bad stuff that happens to people who already had a death certificate before they were ever admitted?

 

[BeginnersLuck]

I actually agree. But I think this case was handled insensitively to begin with. Some cases aren't as cut and dry, with doctors disagreeing on chances of recovery. I just think in general it gets dangerous when we let the govt make decisions for people. The mom may be getting advice here that is making her more conflicted, but butting heads with the hospital hasn't helped.

I don't understand why you think the case was handled insensitively to begin with. The hospital gave the family extended time, beyond protocol for the family to come to terms with Jahi's condition. During and before this extended time period the family was given counseling and provided pastoral care as noted in court records. They were also given many, many other privileges that other families in similar situations don't receive as noted in court records.

When it came time to remove Jahi from the ventilator, the family and staff had meetings and the mother firmly stated that Jahi is not deceased, despite law and medical fact. When a person who's mind is unstable makes demands and statements contrary to law and all medical data, even after lengthy time in which counseling is provided, how is the hospital to entertain this person? Are they to state that the child is not deceased and further her denial and healing process? Or are they to stick to medical ethics and provide the family with the truth, which would include using proper terminology when referring to Jahi's condition.

The hospital told the mother her daughter is deceased, the mother said no. Should the hospital budge from their statements of fact or should the mother that is in denial?

As far as the government making decisons, that decision has already been established in law and only revision of law will change this.

 

[Donjeta]

Maybe she said 7 yrs ago..? oh gosh sorry, was fending off my dog from eating my dinner while watching! She DID say he was dx brain dead though.

Seven years ago would fit if the accident was in 2007.

I just find it curious that she hasn't mentioned it before although she's been talking about her dad's injury in various articles. Maybe I missed something.

 

[Leilei]

sorry for quoting my own post but apparently the Uncle wants some compensation, too . . . really? Chump Change? I have not watched the video yet but really?

He absolutely said it. I just watched it thinking, surely it was taken out of context.

Um, no. IMO.

 

[Karmady]

Is any facility likely to have insurance that covers bad stuff that happens to people who already had a death certificate before they were ever admitted?

No. But they're keeping the hope alive, imo. As I understand it, there's a religious exemption for brain death = deceased in NY and NJ (I read that here in connection with the Brody case and haven't verified it myself). I'm sure as far as the litigants are concerned, it ain't over until the fat lady sings or settles. jmo

 

[momrids6]

So they are taking her out of the hospital to a construction site run by a hairdresser, how is that even an option for someone they lovingly claim is alive.....why is this hospital, its drs, and nurses being bashed and blamed allowed with no proof..

Why isn't she going home? Bryne's house? What about EMTALA? Health Dept. Licensing, etc... Are they really trying to make one believe that NYS is going to put up with this? I'll wait and see if she makes it through the coroner

 

[Herat]

Now that we know the price on Jahi's death, the way this plays out becomes more clear to me.

NB is just a smokescreen. There is no, and has never been, any intent to send her there. They needed a physical facility to satisfy the judge. No other facility in the country will accept her, so a publicity hungry hairdresser egged on by a foundation whose got publicity seeking issues, seeks to get her business massive free do-gooder publicity.

Come Tuesday, there will be some reason why Jahi isn't moved. The weather is too bad in New York to fly the air ambulance in. The mother is too grief stricken to sign the coroner's release, whatever. The deadline imposed by the judge looms. Dolan files an appeal. It is turned down.

Now CHO becomes the bad guy, ending up turning off the ventilator.

NB is just too risky. No one from the family has ever been there to check it out personally. As it is patently unsuitable, there is the risk of photos or reports coming out about how Jahi's physical shell is just not cared for well (with respect). If the mother does move out there to live in Medford, how many times does she or gramma need to shop up to appear to be caring and trying to "bring her back to life"? What about New York standards of dealing with dead bodies? Too many things can go wrong.

The money is all in keeping Jahi at CHO and forcing them to turn off the ventilator.

 

[Elley Mae]

Actually, I don't think they're finished yet. The last tweet was "no further settlement discussions this weekend." Perhaps they will continue Monday? And the TRO expires Tuesday at 5pm.

So, we wait... again.

Just so I know I didn't miss anything, is this where we are? TIA

 

[Zuri]

I must admit that I am thankful Mr. Dolan has found a facility that will take Jahi and care for her. I hope they are able to fly her out tomorrow because of the freezing temps in New York and the predicted arctic front that is going to bring unmercifully cold temps and high winds. Hopefully the generator is working because so many have been losing power.

They might be better off leaving tonight, although there are excessive airport delays. Hopefully this facility will be the answer to all of Jahi's family's prayers and Jahi can be at peace. JMO

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Don't know if it's the case with Jahi, but anyone who has asthma (I do) would know about mucus - swallowing it, coughing it up, hearing it "crackling" in your bronchial tubes. My allergy/asthma specialist has many pediatric patients with whom she discusses mucus. I call it "gunk".

 

[fruity]

In this raw interview with mom an,d I think, the uncle, he goes on about $$$$. It's quite disgusting. Poor mom. JMO

http://www.ktvu.com/videos/news/mcmath-vigil-raw-video-of-jahi-mcmaths-mothers/vCLZHH/

The thing that strikes me most about this video is that Nailah admits she is using Jahi for revenge.

That mother is using her deceased child's body to knowingly cost the hospital as much money as possible - to get back at them - because "they did this to her".

True colours are really showing now. For shame.

 

[BeginnersLuck]

OK, the discussion is over. Nazi death camps have been evoked. (Godwin's Law)


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/01/...ia-girl-to-nazi-death-camps-forced-abortions/

This former governor obviously has no clue about the current laws either.

 

[fruity]

Now that we know the price on Jahi's death, the way this plays out becomes more clear to me.

NB is just a smokescreen. There is no, and has never been, any intent to send her there. They needed a physical facility to satisfy the judge. No other facility in the country will accept her, so a publicity hungry hairdresser egged on by a foundation whose got publicity seeking issues, seeks to get her business massive free do-gooder publicity.

Come Tuesday, there will be some reason why Jahi isn't moved. The weather is too bad in New York to fly the air ambulance in. The mother is too grief stricken to sign the coroner's release, whatever. The deadline imposed by the judge looms. Dolan files an appeal. It is turned down.

Now CHO becomes the bad guy, ending up turning off the ventilator.

NB is just too risky. No one from the family has ever been there to check it out personally. As it is patently unsuitable, there is the risk of photos or reports coming out about how Jahi's physical shell is just not cared for well (with respect). If the mother does move out there to live in Medford, how many times does she or gramma need to shop up to appear to be caring and trying to "bring her back to life"? What about New York standards of dealing with dead bodies? Too many things can go wrong.

The money is all in keeping Jahi at CHO and forcing them to turn off the ventilator.

This is absolutely how I see it playing out too. It's literally time for them to put their money where their mouth is.

Move Jahi to NB. Prove that it is about this poor child, not the money.

 

[iluvmua]

Mom and Uncle know Jahi being kept on LS means bigger payout from CHO then having the plug pulled.

 

[iluvmua]

Don't know about anybody else but I no longer have any sympathy for the mother and the uncle.

makes me wonder if this was the reason to get the media involved?

More money for them in the long run.

 

[Herat]

Ashes to ashes, dust to dust

I always thought it was an order not to worship the loved one's body in death, but to let their earthy remains go and worship their soul in heaven with the Holy Trinity.