Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #7

[joypath]

OMG>>>> CD is still claiming that insurance was/is paying, then he also claims that it's thru donations!


I'm betting CD is planning to take the lawsuit to ALL courts as high as needed as he referenced the New Jersey legal definition of termination of services to a brain dead individual!!!!!

 

[ItsJustaName]

Because some families just do. We do.

Of course Uncle Omari was in Cabo that day......

 

[Kimberlyd125]

Of course Uncle Omari was in Cabo that day......

I don't get your point.

 

[Wolfie]

I don't get your point.

If you look back at some of his internet activity, he talks about it being his last day in Cabo the day that Jahi had her surgery.

 

[Morag]

I don't find it unusual that Jahi's mother, grandmother, and stepfather were all there in the ICU. Can someone provide a link to an article that indicates who else was there (MSM, no facebook, no comments)? Thanks.

OTOH, you should have seen the waiting room team my family assembled for my nephew's (out-patient) ear tubes surgery. No one but his parents were permitted into the recovery room, though. Is it really likely that a hospital would permit a dozen or more people to enter the ICU?

 

[Wolfie]

Because some families just do. We do.

I have seen instances where they ask that you bring somebody but limit it to one or two people.

I had a surgery a couple months ago. I had two people there. I don't know that it would make a difference if I had one person there, or all my siblings. (I can not imagine my aunts and uncles showing up, and my grandparents are all gone) I didn't really want to see anybody afterwards anyway- I just wanted to sleep and try to not throw up.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

If you look back at some of his internet activity, he talks about it being his last day in Cabo the day that Jahi had her surgery.

I don't get the point of why I was quoted and that statement was made.

I was talking about some families (like my family) showing major support no matter how big or small the medical procedure.

Her Uncle being in Cabo has nothing to do with what I said.

JMO

 

[joypath]

CD is totally muddying the waters!.....He's claiming that one needs a medical degree to determine death THEN he claims that it is the "HOSPITAL" that is trying to end life! He's totally missing that practicing M.D.s in MOST hospitals are NOT employees of the agency PLUS in this case, MULTIPLE physicians including those chosen by family & court have shared the same DX, brain stem infarct/total brain death/non-perfusion/failed apnea. :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:



OH YEAH, the CA law also concurs

 

[Kimberlyd125]

I don't find it unusual that Jahi's mother, grandmother, and stepfather were all there in the ICU. Can someone provide a link to an article that indicates who else was there (MSM, no facebook, no comments)? Thanks.

OTOH, you should have seen the waiting room team my family assembled for my nephew's (out-patient) ear tubes surgery. No one but his parents were permitted into the recovery room, though. Is it really likely that a hospital would permit a dozen or more people to enter the ICU?

That's the point I was trying to make.
Some families just have to be there. For support. Mine is like that.

 

[Wolfie]

I don't get the point of why I was quoted and that statement was made.

I was talking about some families (like my family) showing major support no matter how big or small the medical procedure.

Her Uncle being in Cabo has nothing to do with what I said.

JMO

The reason we keep bringing it up is because he keeps talking as if he was there, trying to give the impression he was there. I'm not sure if he's ever said he was there, but he has insinuated that he was. When he wasn't.

 

[threecrazykids]

I guess some families are different.

In my family, everybody goes for everything.
The waiting room would look the same if it was a broken arm in the ER, a tonsil surgery, or a triple bypass.

We are very close and we all show our support.

So everyone takes a day of vacation or personal time away from their jobs, parents sign their kids off of school etc, to go to the hospital for the day?

My family clearly hates me and my children...:floorlaugh:

Just kidding - I honestly have never heard of such a thing...now, if it was open heart surgery for my grandmother or something like that? But even then I don't think everyone would be there for the surgery itself. Would everyone come up after work, or school was out? FOR SURE...but I likely wouldn't pull my kids out of school.

I guess having people just "be there" hasn't ever been a practice in my family so maybe I am the one who is out of the loop here. :blushing:

 

[threecrazykids]

CD's complaining because people are saying that Jahi is dead. According to him they can't say so because they're not medical professionals. (You need to be a medical professional to know that someone with a death certificate is most likely dead?)

He stated himself she was dead when he drew up the court papers if memory serves me correctly. Then in the same paragraph wants to "keep her alive" in the next...:floorlaugh:

 

[Wolfie]

I don't find it unusual that Jahi's mother, grandmother, and stepfather were all there in the ICU. Can someone provide a link to an article that indicates who else was there (MSM, no facebook, no comments)? Thanks.

I get the impression that you do, that only the three were there- but I think that they were switching back and forth on which two were with Jahi, in and out, in and out. And that they were getting in the way- and that's based on how THEY talk about it.

 

[Donjeta]

I think CD didn't do some of his arguments any favors imo. He was saying that it was the Christmas season, and people were celebrating the birth of a man who could raise the dead and people should examine their beliefs and ask themselves if they practice what they preach and believe that miracles are possible.



Then he was asked what Jahi's family will do if there is no miraculous recovery and he implied that Jahi's mother would examine her condition and if Jahi begins to deteriorate or is in pain, she would do what any responsible parent would do and make the decision to remove her from the ventilator.

Really? If removing her from the ventilator is even a possibility, let alone a "responsible" decision, then I suppose the argument about their religious views saying that it's a murder as long as her heart is beating was a lie.

It's murder if CHO is doing it but responsible if the family is doing it?

 

[ItsJustaName]

I don't get the point of why I was quoted and that statement was made.

I was talking about some families (like my family) showing major support no matter how big or small the medical procedure.

Her Uncle being in Cabo has nothing to do with what I said.

JMO

I was pointing out the difference between some families and the McMath family.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Christopher Dolan ‏@cbdlaw 14m
Chris Dolan's discussion on the Huffington Post begins at 11:57am today. http://ow.ly/sCxhb

COMING UP 2:52 PM
If A Brain Is Dead, Should The Person Die, Too?

Dude. Wait. WHAT?!?!?!? :floorlaugh: + :facepalm:

 

[ItsJustaName]

I think CD didn't do some of his arguments any favors imo. He was saying that it was the Christmas season, and people were celebrating the birth of a man who could raise the dead and people should examine their beliefs and ask themselves if they practice what they preach and believe that miracles are possible.



Then he was asked what Jahi's family will do if there is no miraculous recovery and he implied that Jahi's mother would examine her condition and if Jahi begins to deteriorate or is in pain, she would do what any responsible parent would do and make the decision to remove her from the ventilator.

Really? If removing her from the ventilator is even a possibility, let alone a "responsible" decision, then I suppose the argument about their religious views saying that it's a murder as long as her heart is beating was a lie.

It's murder if CHO is doing it but responsible if the family is doing it?

The logic train left the station long ago.

 

[Donjeta]

The reason we keep bringing it up is because he keeps talking as if he was there, trying to give the impression he was there. I'm not sure if he's ever said he was there, but he has insinuated that he was. When he wasn't.

There was this:

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/girl-left-brain-dead-after-tonsil-surgery-being-ta/ncMgG/

Monday December 16

Quote:
Sealey said he was in the hospital room with McMath during and after her surgery and has been sleeping in McMath's room along with other family members.
“I saw blood come out of her mouth,” said Sealey. “The images will stick with me forever.”

Maybe it's just messed up reporting and I've no doubt he was there after things went wrong but it's a bit strange he says he was there during the surgery and saw her bleeding, if he really was on the beach.

 

[otto]

So everyone takes a day of vacation or personal time away from their jobs, parents sign their kids off of school etc, to go to the hospital for the day?

My family clearly hates me and my children...:floorlaugh:

Just kidding - I honestly have never heard of such a thing...now, if it was open heart surgery for my grandmother or something like that? But even then I don't think everyone would be there for the surgery itself. Would everyone come up after work, or school was out? FOR SURE...but I likely wouldn't pull my kids out of school.

I guess having people just "be there" hasn't ever been a practice in my family so maybe I am the one who is out of the loop here. :blushing:

When my son had brain surgery, other than parents, no one was there. What's the point? Hospitals are for sick people to be treated, rest and recover. It's not a party or a social event. If the extended family wants to get together, there are better places to do that than at a hospital full of sick children.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Two medical ethicists and Mr. Chucky Cheese.This is going to be a train wreck.