Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #7

[seattlechiquita]

CD: "I think it's important to know I am not a doctor".... NO SH.... SHERLOCK.

 

[popsicle]

Thaddeus Mason Pope ‏@ThaddeusPope 5m
Video on how #JahiMcmath clinicians felt http://youtu.be/3rTsvb2ef5k #EOL

o.m.g. funny

 

[otto]

There was this:

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/local/girl-left-brain-dead-after-tonsil-surgery-being-ta/ncMgG/

Monday December 16

Quote:
Sealey said he was in the hospital room with McMath during and after her surgery and has been sleeping in McMath's room along with other family members.
“I saw blood come out of her mouth,” said Sealey. “The images will stick with me forever.”

Maybe it's just messed up reporting and I've no doubt he was there after things went wrong but it's a bit strange he says he was there during the surgery and saw her bleeding, if he really was on the beach.

I think it's been clear since he announced that $250k was "chump change", and that he is interested in the 30 million, that his role in this has little to do with the deceased child. The fact that he is rewriting history tells us more about what he is willing to do to get to that 30 million.

 

[SophieRose]

We're talking years for the lawsuit to be filed. There is also a chance the records/testimony might not be released if there is a settlement.

Yeah, so don't hold your breath.

Of course, that doesn't mean Dolan and the family won't be making many unsubstantiated statements to the MSM for years. But that's not what counts in court. It's those medical records and sworn testimony, including that of the family members.

The Florida parents of the young girl who died after a tonsillectomy in 2010 didn't file a lawsuit until 2012.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

So everyone takes a day of vacation or personal time away from their jobs, parents sign their kids off of school etc, to go to the hospital for the day?

My family clearly hates me and my children...:floorlaugh:

Just kidding - I honestly have never heard of such a thing...now, if it was open heart surgery for my grandmother or something like that? But even then I don't think everyone would be there for the surgery itself. Would everyone come up after work, or school was out? FOR SURE...but I likely wouldn't pull my kids out of school.

I guess having people just "be there" hasn't ever been a practice in my family so maybe I am the one who is out of the loop here. :blushing:

That's why I said families are different.
I'm not saying I'm right and you are wrong.
Just that different families handle things differently.

My family floods the waiting room for any little thing. We always have.

 

[seattlechiquita]

He is getting POUNDED by the physicians. And they are not even trying that hard.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

When my son had brain surgery, other than parents, no one was there. What's the point? Hospitals are for sick people to be treated, rest and recover. It's not a party or a social event. If the extended family wants to get together, there are better places to do that than at a hospital full of sick children.

It's not a party of social event. And it's not treated that way.
It's about family support.

It may not be how your family does it, but many do.
And who is to say either is "wrong"?

 

[seattlechiquita]

omg this is too funny. CD provided much needed comic relief during my otherwise very busy schedule for the day.

 

[ItsJustaName]

It's not a party of social event. And it's not treated that way.
It's about family support.

It may not be how your family does it, but many do.
And who is to say either is "wrong"?

And Omari goes to Cabo.

 

[otto]

That's why I said families are different.
I'm not saying I'm right and you are wrong.
Just that different families handle things differently.

My family floods the waiting room for any little thing. We always have.

This isn't really about what individual families would like to do in a children's hospital. It doesn't matter how different each family is, because this is about treating the child and gathering information from the primary caregiver.

Hospitals have protocols. Families have to respect those rules and regulations. If a patient needs 20 members of the family to sit in a waiting room in the hospital, then if there's room, that should be okay. However, waiting rooms don't usually have enough space for each patient to bring 20 family members, so then the family should wait in the cafeteria. If I came into a waiting room with a sick child and there were five other patients, each with a huge family entourage, I would ask to the staff to provide a quieter space to wait with my sick child.

 

[Donjeta]

If Dolan is trying to reframe removing the ventilator as a responsible decision of a caring parent, instead of a murder, I wonder if the family is already considering doing it. Did money run out or has she deteriorated further, despite the best efforts by Dr. Frankenstein's team?

 

[Wolfie]

It's not a party of social event. And it's not treated that way.
It's about family support.

It may not be how your family does it, but many do.
And who is to say either is "wrong"?

It seems rude to the other people who are waiting. Filling up the waiting room, taking spaces from the other family members, noise, ect. None of the waiting rooms I've seen are huge.

 

[ItsJustaName]

If Dolan is trying to reframe removing the ventilator as a responsible decision of a caring parent, instead of a murder, I wonder if the family is already considering doing it. Did money run out or has she deteriorated further, despite the best efforts by Dr. Frankenstein's team?

I'm guessing the feeding tube did not work out the way they hoped.

 

[seattlechiquita]

Done with my salad, and done listening to CD's stupidity. Back to work!

 

[Wolfie]

This isn't really about what individual families would like to do in a children's hospital. It doesn't matter how different each family is, because this is about treating the child and gathering information from the primary caregiver.

Hospitals have protocols. Families have to respect those rules and regulations. If a patient needs 20 members of the family to sit in a waiting room in the hospital, then if there's room, that should be okay. However, waiting rooms don't usually have enough space for each patient to bring 20 family members, so then the family should wait in the cafeteria. If I came into a waiting room with a sick child and there were five other patients, each with a huge family entourage, I would ask to the staff to provide a quieter space to wait with my sick child.

This.

 

[ItsJustaName]

It seems rude to the other people who are waiting. Filling up the waiting room, taking spaces from the other family members, noise, ect. None of the waiting rooms I've seen are huge.

Its self absorbed to have a large number of people in the waiting room. Other families have sick relatives in surgery. They need a quiet place to talk, to try to distract themselves. What I've seen with large groups is that they are almost always loud.

 

[otto]

It's not a party of social event. And it's not treated that way.
It's about family support.

It may not be how your family does it, but many do.
And who is to say either is "wrong"?

Family support for what? The primary caregiver is with the child to provide information to medical staff about the child and to be available to the child after the child has recovered from the surgery. If the primary caregiver is unable to cope with taking a child for surgery, then the task should be assigned to a family member that is able to cope. Hospitals treat sick people. Sick people need unimpaired medical care, quiet and rest. They should not be interacting with all sorts of extended family that are there to support the caregiver. If the child is well enough to interact with extended family, the child should go home. If the child is not recovered enough to go home, the family should follow hospital protocols and allow the child complete rest.

 

[danzn16]

Because some families just do. We do.

Right, I said it was always a possibility. We don't know if her family does this for all surgeries or just serious one. I just gave my observation of what I have seen. But of course every family is different, every job is different in leniency with time off, etc.

 

[Morag]

Wait a minute. Regardless of how many or how few family members the people on this board are accustomed to being in the waiting room, how many people did the McMath family have there? No rumors, please, no FB, no comments on blogs or news articles. We've only heard about mom, gramma, and stepdad. The uncle seems to be a little undecided as to where he was. Even so, that would make only 4, and I can't imagine a hospital would allow all of them in the ICU at once.

 

[threecrazykids]

Wait a minute. Regardless of how many or how few family members the people on this board are accustomed to being in the waiting room, how many people did the McMath family have there? No rumors, please, no FB, no comments on blogs or news articles. We've only heard about mom, gramma, and stepdad. The uncle seems to be a little undecided as to where he was. Even so, that would make only 4, and I can't imagine a hospital would allow all of them in the ICU at once.

Funniest comment yet on Uncle O

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Sorry, but if you're going to accept what the family is stating as FACT then I think it's only just as fair to take it all with a grain of salt. We know one thing - CHO hasn't had their shot at telling THEIR side of who all was there to witness when the SHTF - so I can't believe the family's account until I hear both sides agree on who was where.