Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #8

[Donjeta]

Tulessa, the 5 % chances of survival referred to another girl who regained consciousness, not Jahi. See link in post #887.

 

[Tulessa]

Tulessa, the 5 % chances of survival referred to another girl who regained consciousness, not Jahi. See link in post #887.

I seen that Donjeta. Thank you for all of your research on this subject. You're truly a blessing.

 

[popsicle]

http://instagram.com/p/lfNytvopt6/

Uncle had a presser. That is posted just 4 hrs ago. Haven't seen the video posted yet.

 

[SwampMama]

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_25332221/jahi-mcmath-state-releases-report-childrens-hospital-oaklands

"State health investigators probing Children's Hospital Oakland over its handling of Jahi McMath concluded that the hospital complied with medical regulatory standards in her case, according to the long-awaited report obtained Wednesday through a public records request."

"We are very pleased with the results of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services validation survey," said Dr. David Durand, Children's Hospital Oakland's chief medical officer. "We were found to be in compliance with CMS standards in every area. No deficiencies of quality of care were identified in the survey."

 

[Marg from Oz]

Just came to see if any reports. Can't believe she is still going, what does the uncle have to say?

 

[Karmady]

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_25332221/jahi-mcmath-state-releases-report-childrens-hospital-oaklands

"State health investigators probing Children's Hospital Oakland over its handling of Jahi McMath concluded that the hospital complied with medical regulatory standards in her case, according to the long-awaited report obtained Wednesday through a public records request."

"We are very pleased with the results of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services validation survey," said Dr. David Durand, Children's Hospital Oakland's chief medical officer. "We were found to be in compliance with CMS standards in every area. No deficiencies of quality of care were identified in the survey."

Well, now I guess we know who was paying for her care. jmo

 

[Leilei]

http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_25332221/jahi-mcmath-state-releases-report-childrens-hospital-oaklands

"State health investigators probing Children's Hospital Oakland over its handling of Jahi McMath concluded that the hospital complied with medical regulatory standards in her case, according to the long-awaited report obtained Wednesday through a public records request."

"We are very pleased with the results of the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services validation survey," said Dr. David Durand, Children's Hospital Oakland's chief medical officer. "We were found to be in compliance with CMS standards in every area. No deficiencies of quality of care were identified in the survey."

From your link:

"The report is evidence of what the family has faced from day one, doctors covering for other doctors," Dolan said. "The family was not even interviewed, to my knowledge. How can a 13-year-old girl bleed to death in an ICU, and there is no evaluation or finding explaining that?"

So, Mr. Dolan now admits that Jahi died in December? :seeya:

 

[Leilei]

They wanted an investigation, they got an investigation. Don't go crying because it didn't go your way. And I could have gone another decade without seeing another pic of the uncle

IMO.

 

[al66pine]

Well, now I guess we know who was paying for her care. jmo

Who?
Sorry to seem dense, but don't want to ASSume what your interp is.
Thx in adv.

 

[popsicle]

Just came to see if any reports. Can't believe she is still going, what does the uncle have to say?

Jahi McMath: Family calls state report 'B.S.'

Calling it a "B.S. report," Jahi's uncle Omari Sealey in tweets questioned why the family was not interviewed as part of the investigation. "The State never interviewed the family who was THERE to witness Jahi bleeding to 'CA brain death' & there is no answer why she bled?" Sealey wrote in a series of tweets. "What's done in the dark, will come to light."

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking-news/ci_25338082/jahi-mcmath-family-calls-state-report-b-s

Guess it isn't an in person interview but a twitter interview. ?

 

[seattlechiquita]

From your link:

"The report is evidence of what the family has faced from day one, doctors covering for other doctors," Dolan said. "The family was not even interviewed, to my knowledge. How can a 13-year-old girl bleed to death in an ICU, and there is no evaluation or finding explaining that?"

So, Mr. Dolan now admits that Jahi died in December? :seeya:

BBM and they would all be interviewed because of their deep knowledge of medical practice, right? Puhleaze. They need to just GO AWAY. :facepalm:

 

[K_Z]

It's helpful to understand what a CMS Compliance inspection is, and is not. This type of inspection was not ever intended to be a comprehensive morbidity and mortality inquiry of Jahi's case, or any other child's case. Atty Dolan surely knows this. Family interviews would NEVER be a part of this kind of CMS compliance audit.

So, making criticizing comments about the family not being interviewed is either revealing ignorance about what this inspection was about, or it is grandstanding and taking an opportunity to make a derogatory statement in the spotlight that demeans both CHO, and Centers for Medicare and Medicaid. CMS did their inspection in accordance with their own very strict standards, which were, and are available to Dolan, the family, and the media. They do these inspections pretty much the same way, every time, in every facility.

This was an audit of conditions of participation compliance. I would have expected CHO to have minimal deficiencies.

These comments by the family and atty, IMO, demonstrate ignorance about what the CMS inspection process is.

 

[AnonymousD]

I take the comments as they also play to their "target audience". Of whom, they believe, will not take the time to look up what the CMS Compliance Inspection actually involves and does not involve (them).

They think their "target audience" will just believe it is another slap in the face by the system to Jahi's family, and hopefully bring in some dona!ions.

 

[gogrannypop]

No matter if she is in the best facility (If she is) I cannot imagine the smell.

Sorry. I was a medical assistant in my previous life and I understand how things work.

I am disgusted.

 

[Montjoy]

I take the comments as they also play to their "target audience". Of whom, they believe, will not take the time to look up what the CMS Compliance Inspection actually involves and does not involve (them).

They think their "target audience" will just believe it is another slap in the face by the system to Jahi's family, and hopefully bring in some dona!ions.

To what 'target audience' do you refer?

 

[Tawny]

To what 'target audience' do you refer?

I'm assuming their target audience would be those who donate to the cause.

 

[K_Z]

I take the comments as they also play to their "target audience". Of whom, they believe, will not take the time to look up what the CMS Compliance Inspection actually involves and does not involve (them).

They think their "target audience" will just believe it is another slap in the face by the system to Jahi's family, and hopefully bring in some dona!ions.

An enormous misunderstanding perpetuated by the media, AND Attorney Dolan, is that this process was an investigation into Jahi's death, which it was NOT. CMS does not have direct authority over individual cases of morbidity and mortality. Absolutely Attorney Dolan knows this.

I believe it is Atty Dolan's responsibility to explain and interpret this kind of sophisticated information to the family he represents. His public comments, IMO, are irresponsible, belittling, and do nothing to educate the family (and the media). I would not expect Jahi's family, with their background, to understand what a CMS compliance inspection is, and is not. However, I believe they deserve an attorney who can explain these things to them so they can understand what is going on.

This was a compliance inspection. If there were "enough" egregious departures from compliance indicators, theoretically CMS could cease payment or reimbursement to the facility. (I say theoretically, because that would be a HUGE hairy, painful, enormous big deal, affecting every single department within the hospital, and would be front page news.)

A facility as big as CHO has oversight from a number of organizations, both at the state level, and "national" level.

 

[K_Z]

Considerably higher than brain stem. Eye opening (voluntary) as well as eyeball movements are controlled by cranial nerve 3- the oculomotor nerve. I am highly doubtful Jahi voluntarily opened her eyes. The key here is VOLUNTARY.

There are a lot of situations where eyelids will appear to be open involuntarily, and if her eyelids and eyeball is very dehydrated, the eyes could appear to be open.

I'm very short on time, but will add more later. I really doubt that there will be any pictures or video of posted about this by the family. But it makes for a good piece of information to cast out to the masses.

Oculomotor nerve - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[AnaTeresa]

It's bizarre. If it actually happened, I feel like this family would be shouting it from the rooftops. I would be shouting it from the rooftops. It would be the miracle Jahi's mother has been praying for.

The fact that it allegedly occurred two weeks ago and the family has said nothing - either it didn't happen, or they know it wasn't voluntary.

 

[Deleted member 110058]

The fact that it allegedly occurred two weeks ago and the family has said nothing - either it didn't happen, or they know it wasn't voluntary.[/QUOTE]

I agree.
And truly, this could have been a rumor not even started by the family.
They might have taken it down because it wasn't true in the first place.