Family wants to keep life support for girl brain dead after tonsil surgery #9

[Quester]

... E.C. Reems Principal [LB] said the school "wanted to do something for Jahi because she's a family member of ours."

"We had planned to do something and just needed some clarification around it," [LB] said.

http://www.santacruzsentinel.com/localnews/ci_25943419/oakland-jahi-mcmath-getting-diploma-8th-grade-famil

 

[seattlechiquita]

Are these people for @$%% real? Grant a diploma to a legally dead person? I mean, they could grant a post-humous degree (we have done so at the university I work at), but not sure how k-12 works. In any case, they would have to accept in public she is DEAD. No way in hell these leeches will do so. There goes their source of income (does mom work at all?)

 

[jjenny]

Brain dead Oakland girl [JM] to receive 8th grade diploma
By Associated Press

... she will receive an honorary diploma during her school’s 8th grade graduation. ...

... Sealey said his niece is doing well and responding to voice commands.

http://www.dailybulletin.com/genera...girl-jahi-mcmath-to-receive-8th-grade-diploma

When a person is brain dead, their brain liquifies. Multiple tests showed there is no blood flow to her brain, and all brain activity is absent.
How could she possibly respond to voice commands?

 

[Quester]

... The decision came during a meeting on Wednesday between E.C. Reems
Academy of Technology and Arts administrators and lawyers. ...

... To move her [from CHO], Jahi's mother signed a death certificate....

... "We had planned to do something and just needed some clarification
around it," Blair said. ...

http://www.contracostatimes.com/new...-jahi-mcmath-getting-diploma-8th-grade-family

 

[CHERIE.T]

^ Well you're speechless and I'm pizzed quite frankly.

I have kept pretty quiet on this, for the most part, and have felt sincere sadness for Jahi's mother (and family) but this is beginning to look quite different to me.

I don't quite know how to describe my feelings other than to say it just looks like the rules do not apply to them- and that would be fine if they weren't trying to engender financial help and sympathy... and sympathy is not quite the right word.

From the beginning I have believed wholeheartedly that because Nylah pushed this surgery, and although Jahi was afraid, insisted that Jahi would be fine (even if that's what she believes she was told) that this was the reason she could not accept the outcome. Who wouldn't feel horrified and guilty but this is going way too far.

NW doesn't give a damn what all the many specialist say, or what was confirmed, or by how many people. Damn CHO, damn the doctors, damn the nurses, damn anyone who won't agree with her.

There are a lot of parents (I know one personally) that agree to a surgery and most certainly assure their child or baby they will be fine- and they aren't... it doesn't turn out that way. Parents who cajole their children to go somewhere or drive somewhere and their child ends up in a horrible accident- and dead. I know someone who just last year, around this time had a child die in a terrible car crash (Ferrari in the bay area- exploded and burned up) where she insisted that her boy go with her husband (he was actually her nephew but she and her husband were raising him). SHE was supposed to have gone on the day drive to a Ferrari event with her hubby but didn't want him playing computer games all day- and made. him. go. instead!

It happens.

It is terrible.

Terrible things happen.

The public at large is expected to accept the vague updates with no proof. If you weren't asking for help or blaming other people or entities- fine. It is your story, your delusion. That isn't the case here.

What will be the ramifications for this school or any other to be pushed, forced or sued to graduate a student who did not complete the requirements to graduate? What is going on here?

This feels so manipulative... almost entitled. Again, the rules don't apply to NW apparently (Jahi in reality).

All I know is that this situation is feeling more and more... sociopathic... no... narcissistic... something not right with each new scenario and statement.

BBM
I know what you mean. I literally get a stomach each time I read some of the news from the mom.

 

[CHERIE.T]

Are these people for @$%% real? Grant a diploma to a legally dead person? I mean, they could grant a post-humous degree (we have done so at the university I work at), but not sure how k-12 works. In any case, they would have to accept in public she is DEAD. No way in hell these leeches will do so. There goes their source of income (does mom work at all?)

:seeya: what SC said.

 

[K_Z]

Now McMath's family has reached out to school officials to ask the public charter school to award McMath an honorary certificate at its eighth-grade graduation ceremony Friday. McMath's uncle, Omari Sealey, tweeted Tuesday afternoon that school was resisting, saying that officials "said they received too many complaints about displaying anything about Jahi McMath."

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking...mcmath-family-pushing-school-grant-brain-dead

An interesting glimpse at what might be playing out from a perspective other than the McMath family.

Seems a lot of callers perhaps wanted the ceremony to focus on the 8th grade graduates, their accomplishments, and their families. JMO, but perhaps the callers feel that this ceremony should be free of the media attention the family often recruits for their own purposes.

I went to a HS graduation last week. A member of the class tragically died in December after a long illness. The student was memorialized in the program, and there was a touching display in the lobby with an empty wheelchair, a candle, and a few mementos with a portrait. There was a book to leave messages for his family. The student was not awarded a posthumous diploma, and his name was not read at that time. But I thought the display was inclusive, lovely, and heartfelt. Many commented on how beautifully the memory of the student was honored. I don't know if any of his family was there, but I still think it was well done, and quite respectful, without taking anything away from the living graduates.

 

[K_Z]

Are these people for @$%% real? Grant a diploma to a legally dead person? I mean, they could grant a post-humous degree (we have done so at the university I work at), but not sure how k-12 works. In any case, they would have to accept in public she is DEAD. No way in hell these leeches will do so. There goes their source of income (does mom work at all?)

BBM.

NW reportedly worked at Home Depot before Jahi's surgery back in December, 2013. (Sorry-- no link handy.)

 

[K_Z]

The family of Jahi McMath is posting on social media, asking supporters to contact her charter school to ask them to grant the eighth-grader a diploma this week.

Since the school, E.C. Reems Academy of Technology and Arts, is not commenting, all we know is that Jahi’s uncle, Omari Sealy, wrote on Instagram, “Jahi McMath was suppose (sic) to be graduating from EC Reems Academy of Technology and Arts in Oakland & they are NOT going to acknowledge/recognize her at the ceremony.”

“Chief Operating Officer Lisa Blair declined comment by phone early Wednesday morning on what would happen at the graduation ceremony on Friday.

“But in a January interview with NBC Bay Area, she said she had been telling students at the close-knit public charter school that she had been trying to honor Jahi’s family wishes by telling students that their classmate may still be alive, even though doctors say she is legally and clinically dead.”

http://www.lifenews.com/2014/06/11/jahi-mcmaths-family-wants-middle-school-to-grant-her-a-diploma/

Bold by me.

 

[K_Z]

I hope media cameras are kept away from the location of the 8th grade graduation ceremony-- completely off the grounds. I hope none of the media interview any of the McMath family members about this. They should not be given a media platform for this on school grounds, IMO. I hope the school admin made that a condition of the "honorary diploma" awarding. I hate that this is taking away from the other students and their accomplishments. They deserve their celebration without these distractions, IMO.

It's very sad to me, and IMO, immensely disrespectful that the family has actively sought to usurp this celebration from the 8th grade students and their families.

Taking this to the media?? Imploring the public to clog up the school phone lines?? Disgusting, IMO.

Can this family do nothing in a dignified, respectful, or private manner?? Must they make a scene out of EVERYTHING, and inconvenience and disrespect others?? Another narcissistic and selfish maneuver, IMO. Clearly they care nothing at all for the other students and families, IMO.

As this sad saga drags on, and the family antics continue in such public forums, I find I have less and less sympathy for them. And that's sad, too.

 

[Donjeta]

A strangely flippant comment about the situation imo. Kermit probably got his as a joke.

"It would be an awful shame not to grant Jahi McMath an honorary 8th Grade Graduation Certificate when Kermit the Frog has an honorary Doctorate from Southampton College in New York," Sealey added via text.

http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking...mcmath-family-pushing-school-grant-brain-dead

What is Jahi going to need an 8th grade certificate for?

 

[Frigga]

Ya know- this is getting down right bizarre, i mean more bizarre than it has been previously.

Something about being manipulated, lied to and toyed with really makes this situation go from bad to worse.

We have crossed into twilight zone territory.

 

[Frigga]

A strangely flippant comment about the situation imo. Kermit probably got his as a joke.


http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking...mcmath-family-pushing-school-grant-brain-dead

What is Jahi going to need an 8th grade certificate for?

He does know Kermit's not real- right?

 

[momrids6]

A strangely flippant comment about the situation imo. Kermit probably got his as a joke.


http://www.mercurynews.com/breaking...mcmath-family-pushing-school-grant-brain-dead

What is Jahi going to need an 8th grade certificate for?

OT/ I am racking my brain trying to figure out what any living child needs one and a ceremony for. Never had one. None of the kids or DH either. They have an end of the year 8th grade formal dance. Report cards are marked for promotion to the high school- or not.

Do some really think it's a grand accomplishment to get out of middle school?

 

[pukasonqo2]

it might be that, for the family, that can be added to the jahi legend: she was deemed brain dead by those awful doctors but see, she has a diploma, she completed the eight grade!

the note they published made it sound like she would have attended the ceremony if she could which is adding more and more to the idea that she is, somehow, recovering and about to step out at any given moment

for some reason, jahi's mum attitude reminds me of that story of the monkey paw and the dead son coming back to life.


lupus est homini , non , non quom qualis sit novit

 

[K_Z]

Ya know- this is getting down right bizarre, i mean more bizarre than it has been previously.

Something about being manipulated, lied to and toyed with really makes this situation go from bad to worse.

We have crossed into twilight zone territory.

OT/ I am racking my brain trying to figure out what any living child needs one and a ceremony for. Never had one. None of the kids or DH either. They have an end of the year 8th grade formal dance. Report cards are marked for promotion to the high school- or not.

Do some really think it's a grand accomplishment to get out of middle school?

it might be that, for the family, that can be added to the jahi legend: she was deemed brain dead by those awful doctors but see, she has a diploma, she completed the eight grade!

the note they published made it sound like she would have attended the ceremony if she could which is adding more and more to the idea that she is, somehow, recovering and about to step out at any given moment

for some reason, jahi's mum attitude reminds me of that story of the monkey paw and the dead son coming back to life.


lupus est homini , non , non quom qualis sit novit

I guess I'm starting to wonder....will Nailah Winkfield try to register Jahi for high school??

Is a brain dead person entitled to public education?

:facepalm:

 

[CHERIE.T]

OT/ I am racking my brain trying to figure out what any living child needs one and a ceremony for. Never had one. None of the kids or DH either. They have an end of the year 8th grade formal dance. Report cards are marked for promotion to the high school- or not.

Do some really think it's a grand accomplishment to get out of middle school?

My kids are adults aged 20 to 30. They all had middle school graduations in both city and private school. It was a celebration of entering high school really ......but also a celebration of not being a little kid anymore.

 

[momrids6]

My kids are adults aged 20 to 30. They all had middle school graduations in both city and private school. It was a celebration of entering high school really ......but also a celebration of not being a little kid anymore.

I understand a celebration/ graduation from there to the high school for the kids.... but a certificate/diploma from a middle school is not going to get anyone a job, iykwim.

 

[Elley Mae]

Brain dead Oakland girl [JM] to receive 8th grade diploma
By Associated Press

... she will receive an honorary diploma during her school’s 8th grade graduation. ...

... Sealey said his niece is doing well and responding to voice commands.

http://www.dailybulletin.com/genera...girl-jahi-mcmath-to-receive-8th-grade-diploma

What the hell has happened to people, this is most crazy. Crap give her a harvard diploma too. why not?

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Jahi's family seems to always get exactly what they want. No doubt this is the reason that they are convinced that Jahi will eventually awaken and blossom into an amazing teenager. :moo: