Fantasy Island, 'DA Plane, Da Plane'

[BlueCrab]

Is it true that Fleet White has never spoken? Is there not some "sealed" deposition locked away in Boulder?

sissi,

Fleet White has written several long letters to Boulder and Colorado authorities, plus he filed a lbel suit against the media. Most of this is public record.

 

[tipper]

But there is also a sealed deposition taken during the Wolf case

http://www.jonbenetindexguide.com/legalstuff.htm
2002-01-11 (T) Fleet White Deposition (Atlanta) (Wolf vs Ramseys)
SEALED
SEALED
SEALED

 

[sissi]

Thanks, Tipper! Now we must wonder why everyone else has had their depositions released and his is sealed!

 

[Camper]

What a great contribution to this thread Tipper, thank you.

I can just sit here and think that Fleet has a HUNK of the picture puzzle. Why else would his information be sealed.

Typically something is sealed because of information that would affect an ongoing investigation, am I right?

Well just maybe IF IF LE or someone talked to the co-pilot and asked him my questions we yet get another hunk of the puzzle. But hey, if people who are involved are reading here. Better get to him before they do.

Just my active and fertile mind working again. Just get out your crayons and color me coo coo.

I am quite certain that the selling of 'Da Plane' made some ready cash available for legal matters, as JR spoke of in DOI. It was sold early in 1998 as I recall just after Susannah Chase murder, which is why I remember the date so clearly. The time frame when the plane was sold is in DOI also.

What is the going rate for perpetual loyalty?


Eagle are you reading here, I would like to know more about the preacher you speak of (was he in GA?) that used the phrase 'Listen Carefully', so much?

Would this preacher speak of drinking as the work of the devil, er, huh? The Enquirer wrote of seeing the older son, in his cups with a friend, quite some time ago.

 

[tipper]

It may be that unlike ST, Fleet has maintained a silence on what he saw and thinks about the case and so the judge was willing to continue that silence. She didn't seem to have much use for ST's claims of embarassment at having his deposition released after he was willing to accuse the Ramseys of murder. But Fleet would be a different story.

 

[BeeBee]

sissi,

Fleet White has written several long letters to Boulder and Colorado authorities, plus he filed a lbel suit against the media. Most of this is public record.

Long letters?? The man wrote novellas. :doh:

 

[Nehemiah]

Chris Stanley was one of JAR's pals, probably a relative of the TV preacher. I probably asked at the time, could this buddy have written the ransom note after the accident and unintentionally ID'd himself by using the Atlanta church phrase Listen Carefully? JAR had said Patsy was "flashy" as if he didn't "particularly like" her.

I don't think Chris and Charles Stanley are relatives. Charles has no siblings and his father's family is very small. His dad died when he was an infant and he was not connected much to the Stanley side of the family. Plus, he is not from Atlanta originally.

As far as the perp attending First Baptist Atlanta...that is certainly possible.

 

[TLynn]

I can appreciate what your saying about the lack of readiness for the plane to fly to Atlanta, BUT -

The plane was already checked out to leave that morning. It was only the destination that changed.

Fueling would have already been done as well. Are you saying some planes may not fly with a full fuel tank because the flight wouldn't use it all?

My recollection from past research is that a flight plan is not always needed.

 

[Moab]

Which two mileages do you refer to, Atlanta get outta town mileage, and the Mpls one, is that what you refer to? Thanks

Yes, I meant the mileage difference between Boulder and Minneapolis vs the mileage from Boulder and Atlanta.

Moab, thank you I had not remembered about the other co-pilot, nor did I even know his name. Do you have a source for the co-pilot involvement that day?

PMPT ppbk , pgs 135-136

 

[Moab]

Fueling would have already been done as well. Are you saying some planes may not fly with a full fuel tank because the flight wouldn't use it all?

My recollection from past research is that a flight plan is not always needed.

Yes, not all planes would carry an excess of fuel. I don't know how close they cut it, I am sure there is a standard for that as well, but one wouldn't have to" top off the tank" if only half, for example, were to be used.

I think the FAA requires a flight plan for any flight over 50 miles.

 

[Toltec]

The plane could have been fueled Christmas Day...when John Ramsey went to the Airport. He said he was going to perform pre-flight inspection on it.

I believe it was he who took the flashlight out of the wet-sink drawer and took it with him to the airport. He then came home and placed it on the kitchen counter and did not put it back in the drawer. Remember that Patsy told LE that John uses the flashlight for his plane and the garage.

 

[capps]

The plane could have been fueled Christmas Day...when John Ramsey went to the Airport. He said he was going to perform pre-flight inspection on it.

I believe it was he who took the flashlight out of the wet-sink drawer and took it with him to the airport. He then came home and placed it on the kitchen counter and did not put it back in the drawer. Remember that Patsy told LE that John uses the flashlight for his plane and the garage.

Then why no fingerprints?

 

[Toltec]

Then why no fingerprints?

Because the flashlight was used to bash JonBenet in the head.

 

[capps]

Because the flashlight was used to bash JonBenet in the head.

Oh okay ... I misread your post. I thought you were implying that the flashlight was just left on the counter,and was not a part of the crime. Sorry.

 

[IrishMist]

I'm glad you asked, capps, cuz I thought the same thing :blushing:

 

[Cranberry]

Oh okay ... I misread your post. I thought you were implying that the flashlight was just left on the counter,and was not a part of the crime. Sorry.

I thought maybe the flashlight was used for lighting while writing the note in the kitchen and then was wiped down.

 

[Toltec]

I thought maybe the flashlight was used for lighting while writing the note in the kitchen and then was wiped down.

if it was used for something as simple as writing...then no need to wipe down.

 

[Cranberry]

if it was used for something as simple as writing...then no need to wipe down.

true unless you are trying to identify who may have written a ransom note in the kitchen (house) at night in the dark or who removed the flashlight from the drawer where it was normally kept.

 

[Toltec]

true unless you are trying to identify who may have written a ransom note in the kitchen (house) at night in the dark or who removed the flashlight from the drawer where it was normally kept.

I take that back...the flashlight belonged to John Ramsey...a gift from JAR. I don't recall Patsy ever saying she used it.

When Patsy used the flashlight to bash JB's head in....and/or to write the rn...then she likely wiped her fingerprints off and also the batteries because she may have placed new batteries in awhile back. She is distancing herself from the flashlight...IOW she never used it.

 

[tipper]

It doesn't make sense that they would go to such lengths to cover picky details like battery fingerprints that could easily be explained away and yet forget to stage such an important item as leaving a door open so entry/exit would be accounted for.