Fiber Analysis

[Harmony 2]

Great minds . . . I was just thinking about the seat covers. IIRC, Cindy went out of her way to describe them, and they didn't sound like they were wool. But we'll never know for sure what they were made of if they have disappeared. Once upon a time I had sheepskin covers for my front seats that were made of the tanned leather and natural hair (wool) of the sheep. They came in several colors -- cream, brown, black. The same material was also used to make seatbelt covers, which I think has been mentioned before.

Another thought. Someone earlier mentioned perhaps a black fabric to clean the car. Seems to me that I've seen cleaning "mitts" made of a wool or wool like material. Could Casey have had something like this in her trunk?

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[beach]

bumping

 

[nort]

The black fibers could have been from something totally unrelated but previously in the laundry bag. They may have had the bag for years.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

^ yes they could have been, but if the fibres were stuck between the tape and Caylee's face then they would have adhered to the tape before or during application and Caylee was placed in the laundry bag sometime after. I think the fibres could show where the actual crime occurred and could prove v interesting.

 

[nort]

The tape was in the garage or at least we have speculated that and the laundry was also in the garage. A blanket from the garage set on top of the tape anything really from the garage. Cant seem to match anything up from the actual crime so I am reaching out to other avenues..Maybe we will get some other information when the FBI files are released. We will get those right??

 

[AZlawyer]

The tape was in the garage or at least we have speculated that and the laundry was also in the garage. A blanket from the garage set on top of the tape anything really from the garage. Cant seem to match anything up from the actual crime so I am reaching out to other avenues..Maybe we will get some other information when the FBI files are released. We will get those right??

We already have them.

Most interesting to me is that the black wool fibers were found ONLY on Mama Doll and the duct tape from the skull. No black wool on anything else tested from the house, the car, or Suburban Drive, not even on the other piece of Henkel duct tape found at the scene or the piece of Henkel duct tape found on the gas can in the shed. So we can't just say that the roll of tape had been sitting on some black wool. "Eye hairs" (eyelashes, I guess) were also found on Mama Doll. Mama Doll was found naked with no doll clothes to be found. Maybe Mama Doll was wearing something with black wool, and was held near Caylee's face while the duct tape was on her face? Could the black wool item have had chloroform on it and been thrown away later?

 

[nort]

I was hoping there were more files to come from the FBI. I know they did not find one but could the fibers have come from a fabric towel she used during the Murder and the aftermath of clean up and packaging. (disgusting I know).

 

[nort]

In looking at the photos of the doll I noticed a tag on her. I was wondering if anyone was able to enlarge the photo enough to view the tag. If so please direct me to where I could view it. Thanks...

 

[AZlawyer]

In looking at the photos of the doll I noticed a tag on her. I was wondering if anyone was able to enlarge the photo enough to view the tag. If so please direct me to where I could view it. Thanks...

There is an FBI report that tells you exactly what the tag says. Maybe in that gigantic 1400-page-or-so document.

 

[Frigga]

I have always wondered if Casey burned some of the evidence- like chloroform soaked rag/s- clothes belonging to her and or Caylee etc.

She was planning something with the gas cans IMO.

Didn't I read somewhere that near the area where Caylee was found they found some sort of trash can- bin with burn/scorch marks? I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere... does anyone else recall this? I always thought it was significant????:waitasec:

 

[Numbers]

I have always wondered if Casey burned some of the evidence- like chloroform soaked rag/s- clothes belonging to her and or Caylee etc.

She was planning something with the gas cans IMO.

Didn't I read somewhere that near the area where Caylee was found they found some sort of trash can- bin with burn/scorch marks? I'm pretty sure I read that somewhere... does anyone else recall this? I always thought it was significant????:waitasec:

I do not remember anything about this, but that doesn't mean it didn't happen.

However, that is a highly populated area. I think someone would have reported a suspicious fire. Again, my opinion doesn't mean it didn't happen.

 

[wenwe4]

I haven't posted in a long time, but I had to jump in on this with a question. There's been some mention in the last letter doc dump of black bracelets worn by both Casey and Lee. Does anyone know what they were made of? Both Mallory and Cindy talk about Lee's fraying bracelet that Casey gave him. If Casey's had done the same, and there were wool fibers in it, couldn't it have made contact with both Mama and the duct tape?
Just speculating...

While reading back thru this thread this post sparked a memory . . . didn't KC and CA make "bracelets" while LP's female employee was staying @ the A's home initially? Could the black fiber have come from a wool thread used to make the bracelets? I realize the timing for the bracelet making was @ least 31+ days after little Caylee's body was dumped, however the wool thread for making bracelets might have been at the A's home for awhile.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Don't forget folks we're still awaiting the comparisons of the fibres from the duct tape with those vacuum bags of fibres LE took from the Anthony home (which I for one am holding out for), I assume it will take a long time to cross reference with the ones found on the duct tape, but here's hoping they find a match.

I think any home would contain a fair few black woollen fibres at any time from a number of possible sources, but think the jumper drawer which was in Caylee's room is a distinct possibility.

 

[FaerieB]

As has been theorized here for a *very* long time, the cotton in the duct tape degraded faster than the other fibres.

http://www.wesh.com/pdf/26648533/detail.html

 

[suepitzl]

I searched the fiber thread and did not see this mentioned: If KC had kept a plaid blanket in the trunk of the car in the blue bin like CA has said, wouldn't it make sense that the blanket may have been tossed out of the bin from time to time, leaving the fibers in the trunk, hence the black and red fibers located with the remains/duct tape?

 

[Pattymarie]

I searched the fiber thread and did not see this mentioned: If KC had kept a plaid blanket in the trunk of the car in the blue bin like CA has said, wouldn't it make sense that the blanket may have been tossed out of the bin from time to time, leaving the fibers in the trunk, hence the black and red fibers located with the remains/duct tape?

link please

 

[ClockWatcher]

I searched the fiber thread and did not see this mentioned: If KC had kept a plaid blanket in the trunk of the car in the blue bin like CA has said, wouldn't it make sense that the blanket may have been tossed out of the bin from time to time, leaving the fibers in the trunk, hence the black and red fibers located with the remains/duct tape?

It"s been forever since I"ve looked through the fiber thread! Thanks for the reminder.
I do certainly remember that CA was closely questioned by LDB during her depo about the plaid blanket. I do not, however. remember exactly what became of the blanket. I'm one of those that believes that the cadaver dog hits in the backyard were due to CA placing items to air out; either on the grass or draped over the playhouse and hosed to help remove the smell and debris (if any) before she went back to work.
To this day, I haven't seen a report from the FBI stating that there were any matches to items from the house, trunk, clothing etc.

Vallhall has a great list of all the forensic evidence over at The Hinky Meter:
http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/forensic-evidence/

That list shows all items examined by the FBI and which have fibers. Good stuff! (thanks Val!)

 

[ClockWatcher]

Suepitzl, yes, I think it would make sense that the plaid blanket would leave fibers in the trunk and they could be the red and black fibers. Until I see the report from the FBI though, it's a toss up!

Here's a link to the Fiber Analysis thread:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=90827&highlight=fiber

 

[Harmony 2]

I searched the fiber thread and did not see this mentioned: If KC had kept a plaid blanket in the trunk of the car in the blue bin like CA has said, wouldn't it make sense that the blanket may have been tossed out of the bin from time to time, leaving the fibers in the trunk, hence the black and red fibers located with the remains/duct tape?

We have discussed the blanket in other threads... primarily the duct tape thread...

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[Baznme]

Picture of what could be the "plaid blanket" that is missing......Caylee resting her arm on it...

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From Cindy's depo she described the blanket on Page 325.

http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21310288/detail.html

On 327 of that same depo, she describes colors of the seat covers (I believe) that ironically match the colors of the fibers in the trunk on forensics evidence list found here in item Q66 They were taken out of the car allegedly by ICA.

http://www.thehinkymeter.com/casey-anthony-murder-trial/forensic-evidence/