FL - 17 killed in Stoneman Douglas H.S. shooting, Parkland, 14 Feb 2018 #3 *Arrest*

[human]

I know, and I am sickened over it. This is an unusual set of circumstances. His brother deserves a fresh start regardless of Niks imprisonment. I would love to see him turn things around in a big way.

He is an adult. Scary because there is nothing available for adults in terms of guidance.

 

[kittythehare]

This is a video of a boy who has autism from Parkland. To me, he is more like Cruz would be.

I do not mean the violent part of Cruz, but not the kid that is head banging and screaming all of the time.

Excellent info in this video

https://youtu.be/amXwzh1cL9U

Its an amazing video.
Amazing too, was Holden's concern for the shooter.. 'what he felt he had to do to get sent to jail'
What an interesting observation..
he lost his mother, his true love, in his mind, falls in with not one, but 2 different families... you can kinda see how he hit the wall..

I wonder if a part of him wanted and needed the security of jail?
He never resisted arrest..

So very many questions here..

 

[Lulu_la_Nantaise]

From the Daily Fail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5447599/Parkland-deputys-familly-calls-coward-hiding-gunman.html

EXCLUSIVE:'I do feel he is a coward.' Stepdaughter of sheriff's deputy who refused to tackle Stoneman Douglas gunman speaks out to reveal how he bragged of being a 'good shot'

That's family!!!!! I'm not terribly fond of one of my SILs, but she is a scintillating angel compared to this Sarah de Luca.

'He's a giant, he's 6ft 4in. I feel like the shooter would have been scared of Scot in his uniform running towards him. I do feel Scot is a coward.'

I'm no expert at being shooted at, but still I suspect that at 5ft 4in.I've got a better chance of surviving a hail of bullets than a bulky 6ft 4in. guy.

 

[grammieto5]

So I just read those students who were not killed by the shooter returned to school yesterday. God bless these kids, they have a long road to recovery. I hope they will not be forgotten.

 

[kdg411]

Counselors from Henderson Behavioral Services, which had sent a mobile crisis team to the school in 2016, advised police that Cruz “was not a risk to harm himself or anyone else” because he was on a treatment plan for ADHD, depression, OCD and autism, according to police and social worker reports.

Prosecutors have requested court orders to obtain mental health treatment records for Cruz from Jerome Golden Center and South County Mental Health Center, in addition to records related to Cruz’s treatment from Broward Health.

The caller was “concerned that legal guardianship was never filed,” according to the dispatcher’s notes.

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/2018/02/27/teachers-marjory-stoneman-douglas-high-teachers-wanted-transfer-shooter-school-mental-health-service/376363002/

What would be an example of a treatment plan with the diagnosis` linked above? The article includes Autism with mental health which, IMO, is either poor reporting by the author and/or the school system.

So, RD took both of Lynda`s sons under her care, however didn`t take any immediate action, legally, even though one was a minor. Her legal steps only seem to have surfaced after the reporting of an inheritance. :thinking:

Hopefully, NC signs over his interest in his inheritance if anything to keep the public defenders who are already advocating on his behalf. Lynda`s `estate` is still in probate per Broward County court records. She lived in an upscale condo neighboring MiraLago so the chances of a huge inheritance are dwindling.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180302004001/https://www.redfin.com/FL/Parkland/8442-Lakeview-Trl-33076/unit-8442/home/144671933#

JMO

 

[flourish]

From the Daily Fail:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-5447599/Parkland-deputys-familly-calls-coward-hiding-gunman.html



That's family!!!!! I'm not terribly fond of one of my SILs, but she is a scintillating angel compared to this Sarah de Luca.




I'm no expert at being shooted at, but still I suspect that at 5ft 4in.I've got a better chance of surviving a hail of bullets than a bulky 6ft 4in. guy.

Wow those are some harsh words! I have to wonder about the family dynamics.

She sounds like a snotty armchair quarterback to me.

 

[kittythehare]

The house, a white-painted mobile home, sits in a quiet residential trailer park and is surrounded by a small patch of garden.

A beer can pockmarked with bullet holes could be seen sitting on the ground beside it on Thursday morning.

Cruz and his brother Zachary were orphaned last year after their adoptive mother Lynda died at the age of 68 from complications connected to flu.

Their adopted father Roger passed away in August 2004 after suffering from heart problems. Zachary is now thought to be living with a different set of family friends.

Cruz is understood to have owned several guns prior to his mother's death, purchasing a shotgun from Gun World of South Florida in Deerfield Beach in 2016 according to its owner.


Deschamps 2 pic
Snead’s 1

Are these the 2 homes, Goodeeds?

 

[Gooddeeds]

Are these the 2 homes, Goodeeds?

Yes. I’m not having any luck with attaching the photos there within.
Five people were living in Roxys small trailer. She, her 2 sons and the Cruz brothers. The other photo is the Snead’s house where NC lived after he left Roxys.

 

[Doghairrules]

Sorry I'm just getting back here! I saw some people answer. You know.... for some weird reason, there is a big connection between food issues and disabilities. I did have 1 with Prader Willi, so of course his stuff was locked. But others just had really odd hoarding behaviors (one of my girls would hide sleeves of crackers everywhere in her room! I asked one to carry a bag in and when she put her arm down, it was like a trick or treat bag pouring out her sweatshirt sleeve lol). Sometimes, it would cause them to be up all night prowling for food. I had one that would literally beat people up if she thought you had food on you, so she could have it. Out of my eh, probably 200 clients, she was the only one I was probably legitimately scared of. Food has extreme power and causes extreme behavioral issues. I had 1 that would try to go to the store and sell sex for a Coke and a honey bun. And trust me, they were all well fed, healthy, but had treats- not deprived. Food just seemed to be a big issue for many!

I can 100% guarantee our food was never locked to punish. Loving parents (by every account she was) don't lock food for control issues. They lock it for the safety of the child.

Here is an article that talks about some of the issues:
https://www.ambitiousaboutautism.org.uk/understanding-autism/health/eating-issues

These common issues are difficult enough; their knock-on effects can cause further problems. For instance, it’s common for people with autism to eat either too much or too little. This tends to cause problems with general health and wellbeing, and trying to get your son or daughter to eat more or less than they want can lead to conflicts and behaviour problems. Refusing certain food groups also means missing important nutrients: even if the quantities are right, the quality may be lacking.

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I once had twin 4 year olds with autism for an afternoon. They would eat the poop out of their diapers, batteries out of toys, anything. Their parents basically had to lock the fridge and all of the cabinets. It was exhausting to have them for a few hours.

 

[Doghairrules]

Here is where they lived before the move

look at the baby !

https://www.redfin.com/FL/Parkland/6166-NW-80th-Ter-33067/home/41402468

That kitchen is amazing.

 

[Doghairrules]

Wow those are some harsh words! I have to wonder about the family dynamics.

She sounds like a snotty armchair quarterback to me.

She does sound snotty, doesn’t she?

Also I want details of his nomination for deputy of the year just last year.

 

[Gooddeeds]

kd, I did go to the Broward County Clerk link but didn’t see anything other than her profile. What am I missing? I’m not the savviest tech. TIA

 

[human]

I once had twin 4 year olds with autism for an afternoon. They would eat the poop out of their diapers, batteries out of toys, anything. Their parents basically had to lock the fridge and all of the cabinets. It was exhausting to have them for a few hours.

There are levels of autism. Bill Gates,feels,he has autism

 

[Doghairrules]

There are levels of autism. Bill Gates,feels,he has autism

Oh yes, I know. I was only referring to eating issues with kids with autism. A friend’s child only eats French fries and pizza crusts. Anything else somehow makes her sick. She doesn’t even want to smell food, so all the adults in the house have to eat when she’s not there to avoid a meltdown.

 

[Gooddeeds]

I looked at the 35 photos here, and I wonder when these were taken. The house looked in need of some TLC, just in the simplest of ways-painting, carpet and some exterior curb appeal. I’m sure it was difficult for her to maintain, but curious if it had anything to do with her ‘frugal’ nature. The kitchen appliances are tattered in relation to the scope of the rest of the room.

I can’t see if the random framed photos are of any of them?

The photos on the refrigerator appear to be those of an obituary type.

https://www.redfin.com/FL/Parkland/6166-NW-80th-Ter-33067/home/41402468

 

[bears10]

I looked at the 35 photos here, and I wonder when these were taken. The house looked in need of some TLC, just in the simplest of ways-painting, carpet and some exterior curb appeal. I’m sure it was difficult for her to maintain, but curious if it had anything to do with her ‘frugal’ nature. The kitchen appliances are tattered in relation to the scope of the rest of the room.

I can’t see if the random framed photos are of any of them?

The photos on the refrigerator appear to be those of an obituary type.

https://www.redfin.com/FL/Parkland/6166-NW-80th-Ter-33067/home/41402468

Idk, it seems in line to me with a house that had the same owners since the 90s. It’s just super outdated. If the appliances work, why spend money to replace them? I don’t get the vibe that they were having many visitors, so no one to impress, so to speak.

 

[cujenn81]

I looked at the 35 photos here, and I wonder when these were taken. The house looked in need of some TLC, just in the simplest of ways-painting, carpet and some exterior curb appeal. I’m sure it was difficult for her to maintain, but curious if it had anything to do with her ‘frugal’ nature. The kitchen appliances are tattered in relation to the scope of the rest of the room.

I can’t see if the random framed photos are of any of them?

The photos on the refrigerator appear to be those of an obituary type.

https://www.redfin.com/FL/Parkland/6166-NW-80th-Ter-33067/home/41402468

They had a nice little pool and jacuzzi back there.


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[Owutatangledweb]

Oh yes, I know. I was only referring to eating issues with kids with autism. A friend’s child only eats French fries and pizza crusts. Anything else somehow makes her sick. She doesn’t even want to smell food, so all the adults in the house have to eat when she’s not there to avoid a meltdown.

Bipolar kids are like this with food too.

 

[CARIIS]

Ugh, can’t ditch the multiple postings. And can’t correct my spelling. Sorry!

I forgive you


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[ATasteOfHoney]

Counselors from Henderson Behavioral Services, which had sent a mobile crisis team to the school in 2016, advised police that Cruz “was not a risk to harm himself or anyone else” because he was on a treatment plan for ADHD, depression, OCD and autism, according to police and social worker reports.

Prosecutors have requested court orders to obtain mental health treatment records for Cruz from Jerome Golden Center and South County Mental Health Center, in addition to records related to Cruz’s treatment from Broward Health.

The caller was “concerned that legal guardianship was never filed,” according to the dispatcher’s notes.

https://www.naplesnews.com/story/news/2018/02/27/teachers-marjory-stoneman-douglas-high-teachers-wanted-transfer-shooter-school-mental-health-service/376363002/

What would be an example of a treatment plan with the diagnosis` linked above? The article includes Autism with mental health which, IMO, is either poor reporting by the author and/or the school system.

So, RD took both of Lynda`s sons under her care, however didn`t take any immediate action, legally, even though one was a minor. Her legal steps only seem to have surfaced after the reporting of an inheritance. :thinking:

Hopefully, NC signs over his interest in his inheritance if anything to keep the public defenders who are already advocating on his behalf. Lynda`s `estate` is still in probate per Broward County court records. She lived in an upscale condo neighboring MiraLago so the chances of a huge inheritance are dwindling.

https://web.archive.org/web/20180302004001/https://www.redfin.com/FL/Parkland/8442-Lakeview-Trl-33076/unit-8442/home/144671933#

JMO

Just a quick mention....her townhouse near Miralago is NOT near POTUS’s Mar-A-Lago; mentioning this to avoid any confusion