FL - 17 killed in Stoneman Douglas H.S. shooting, Parkland, 14 Feb 2018 #3 *Arrest*

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  • #301
Wow. There are some really sick people in our society. Some nutjobs are attacking the students, calling names, etc. This should not be tolerated. These kids should be allowed to heal. These conspiracy theorist freaks need to go away or face public ridicule themselves.

‘I am not a crisis actor’: Florida teens fire back at right-wing conspiracy theorists


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-conspiracy-theorists/?utm_term=.267a4098f5c3



BBM

Cruel, insane. They do this to the poor families of children killed at Sandy Hook, too. Isn't there some way they can be punished? Civil suits? I hate to think these victims and families, too, will have to face this insanity for years to come.

I never understood the Crisis Actor conspiracy theories at all. Do they think the massacres never occuured at all? That's all a hoax?
 
  • #302
Hi Everyone,

In case I have not been clear in the past here is what I need to tell you.

DO NOT BRING UP RELIGION IN ANY WAY SHAPE OR FORM.

Hope that is clear.

Thank you,
Tricia
 
  • #303
CNN announces town hall with students, parents affected by Florida school shooting

"Stand Up: The Students of Stoneman Douglas Demand Action" will air live on Wednesday, February 21 at 9 p.m., ET.
 
  • #304
Wow. There are some really sick people in our society. Some nutjobs are attacking the students, calling names, etc. This should not be tolerated. These kids should be allowed to heal. These conspiracy theorist freaks need to go away or face public ridicule themselves.

‘I am not a crisis actor’: Florida teens fire back at right-wing conspiracy theorists


https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...-conspiracy-theorists/?utm_term=.267a4098f5c3



BBM

Cruel, insane. They do this to the poor families of children killed at Sandy Hook, too. Isn't there some way they can be punished? Civil suits? I hate to think these victims and families, too, will have to face this insanity for years to come.

It is so cruel, as these kids are taking steps to heal and to help empower others. Im so glad the aid was fired, didn’t see that news Betty-thanks! Hopefully that will be a sticking point for CTs to think about as a consequence of punishment for their theories.
 
  • #305
I never understood the Crisis Actor conspiracy theories at all. Do they think the massacres never occuured at all? That's all a hoax?

I'm with you. In the Charlottesville car attack that killed Heather Heyer, CT'ers said the whole thing was staged. The panic was scripted. The blood was fake. Oh, and what about those folks who went flying through the air after being hit? They were actually stunt actors. I even read that the driver of the car was a robot! It just gets more far out with each telling.

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  • #306
I'm with you. In Charlottesville car attack that killed Heather Heyer, the CT'ers said the whole thing was staged. The panic was scripted. The blood was fake. Oh, and what about those folks who went flying through the air after being hit? They were actually stunt actors. I even read that the driver of the car was a robot! It just gets more far out with each telling.

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It's a massive disconnect from reality if they think this was a fake death.
 
  • #307
The house, a white-painted mobile home, sits in a quiet residential trailer park and is surrounded by a small patch of garden.

A beer can pockmarked with bullet holes could be seen sitting on the ground beside it on Thursday morning.

Cruz and his brother Zachary were orphaned last year after their adoptive mother Lynda died at the age of 68 from complications connected to flu.

Their adopted father Roger passed away in August 2004 after suffering from heart problems. Zachary is now thought to be living with a different set of family friends.

Cruz is understood to have owned several guns prior to his mother's death, purchasing a shotgun from Gun World of South Florida in Deerfield Beach in 2016 according to its owner.


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  • #308
http://mauinow.com/2018/02/20/maui-group-organizes-lei-of-aloha-for-florida-families/

We wanted to bring the schools together, to weave their love and aloha into the lei and we will send a delegation of students and teachers to make the presentations in Florida,” organizer, Ron Panzo said. “We want to do a total of 18 lei, a total of nearly two and a half miles, each one about an eighth of a mile long, one for each life taken and one to present at the school itself.”
 
  • #309
Now Broward Co. schools say NC was Never Expelled.
Hot potato, hot potato
CYA

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/article201216104.html

As a special needs student, he has rights. In Minnesota if a special needs chuld is going to be expelled, there needs to be a court case.

Transferring him to a different type of school would have been devloped as a plan with his mother.

Then we he improved, he would gain the ability to go back to a regular school as the least restrictive environment. These are spelled out in PL 94-142. Public Law 94-142. This was made because parents want their children to have opportunities. And children used to be warehoused in institutions.

It is a complicated law which is made to protect the rights of students.

Disruptive special needs students have a layer of protection
 
  • #310
I just hope the students don't settle down, that they keep pushing and pushing and pushing for reform.
 
  • #311
How the internet’s conspiracy theorists turned Parkland students into ‘crisis actors’
by Daniel Arkin and Ben Popken

In the fever swamps and extremist fringes of the internet, the outspoken student survivors of the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School are depicted as mouthpieces of the FBI, pawns of left-wing activist billionaire George Soros, stooges of the Democratic Party — or all of the above.

The students, who have called for stronger gun control measures, are now the subject of conspiracy theories that have spread far and wide, even reaching cable news and spurring the firing of a Florida lawmaker’s aide.

The speed with which these groundless claims spread point to a troubling digital ecosystem in the era of fake news. In this shadow media network, unfounded information shows up on dubious sites, churns through the news aggregation site Reddit, and works its way into Facebook feeds — and to the mainstream media...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...urned-parkland-students-crisis-actors-n849921

:rolleyes:
 
  • #312
How the internet’s conspiracy theorists turned Parkland students into ‘crisis actors’
by Daniel Arkin and Ben Popken

In the fever swamps and extremist fringes of the internet, the outspoken student survivors of the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School are depicted as mouthpieces of the FBI, pawns of left-wing activist billionaire George Soros, stooges of the Democratic Party — or all of the above.

The students, who have called for stronger gun control measures, are now the subject of conspiracy theories that have spread far and wide, even reaching cable news and spurring the firing of a Florida lawmaker’s aide.

The speed with which these groundless claims spread point to a troubling digital ecosystem in the era of fake news. In this shadow media network, unfounded information shows up on dubious sites, churns through the news aggregation site Reddit, and works its way into Facebook feeds — and to the mainstream media...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...urned-parkland-students-crisis-actors-n849921

:rolleyes:

insanity. Victimizing and attacking mass shooting victims?!
 
  • #313
I just hope the students don't settle down, that they keep pushing and pushing and pushing for reform.

They just said on my evening news (Orlando Ch.9) that the shooting will affect the next couple elections here in Fl.
They will no doubt vote all the Repubs out. Could change the whole flavor of the state.
 
  • #314
Here's an article speculating that Nikolas Cruz might have Fetal Alcohol Syndrome.:

http://nbc4i.com/2018/02/21/parklan...he-psychology-of-accused-gunman-nikolas-cruz/

[FONT=&quot]Dr. Lee believes some of his facial features and disposition may have been a result of fetal alcohol syndrome. [/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“They have him as a case study,” she told Inside Edition. “Biological factors play a role; he has some features that show he may have been exposed to alcohol in the womb.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]She added: “From his facial features he looks rather small to me and some of his behaviors and lack of impulse control that may have led to violent acts.” [/FONT]
 
  • #315
Here's an article that has a picture of Nikolas and Zachary Cruz. It says that Lynda stated their birth mother was a drug addict. Judging by the picture, Zachary is half-black. This doesn't add up to the theory that they weren't told of their adoption until much later in life... maybe Nikolas wasn't told until later on but Zachary was?. This also confuses me on Nikolas being racist?.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/photo-shows-accused-florida-gunman-his-brother-holding-moms-ashes/
 
  • #316
How the internet’s conspiracy theorists turned Parkland students into ‘crisis actors’
by Daniel Arkin and Ben Popken

In the fever swamps and extremist fringes of the internet, the outspoken student survivors of the mass shooting at Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School are depicted as mouthpieces of the FBI, pawns of left-wing activist billionaire George Soros, stooges of the Democratic Party — or all of the above.

The students, who have called for stronger gun control measures, are now the subject of conspiracy theories that have spread far and wide, even reaching cable news and spurring the firing of a Florida lawmaker’s aide.

The speed with which these groundless claims spread point to a troubling digital ecosystem in the era of fake news. In this shadow media network, unfounded information shows up on dubious sites, churns through the news aggregation site Reddit, and works its way into Facebook feeds — and to the mainstream media...

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-new...urned-parkland-students-crisis-actors-n849921

:rolleyes:

This infuriates me. I know people personally who buy into this kind of **** and it's astounding.
 
  • #317
Here's an article that has a picture of Nikolas and Zachary Cruz. It says that Lynda stated their birth mother was a drug addict. Judging by the picture, Zachary is half-black. This doesn't add up to the theory that they weren't told of their adoption until much later in life... maybe Nikolas wasn't told until later on but Zachary was?. This also confuses me on Nikolas being racist?.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/photo-shows-accused-florida-gunman-his-brother-holding-moms-ashes/

We know so little about what their family life was really like. Apparently there were issues that caused Lynda to isolate and for outsiders to question.

I wonder who paid for the funeral expenses. I’m glad that they were able to have a funeral and burial for their Mother.
 
  • #318
Here's an article that has a picture of Nikolas and Zachary Cruz. It says that Lynda stated their birth mother was a drug addict. Judging by the picture, Zachary is half-black. This doesn't add up to the theory that they weren't told of their adoption until much later in life... maybe Nikolas wasn't told until later on but Zachary was?. This also confuses me on Nikolas being racist?.

https://nypost.com/2018/02/21/photo-shows-accused-florida-gunman-his-brother-holding-moms-ashes/

Well, if that's the brother, then NC and the brother look nothing alike. Daily mail claimed the two weren't related at all (different mothers, different fathers).
 
  • #319
This infuriates me. I know people personally who buy into this kind of **** and it's astounding.

Ugh. My boss is one of those people. And today he brought up “crisis actors”. I usually just roll my eyes and subtly change the subject, but I’m at a breaking point at my job anyway so I snapped back that he can believe whatever tin foil hat crap he wants but don’t discuss it in front of me. I’ve just about had it with conspiracy theory nutters in general, the ones who always have some absurd theory every time there is a tragedy... but accusing these kids of being crisis actors... I can’t. If I never have to read “open your eyes” or “wake up sheeple” in regards to a tragedy, it’d be too soon.

/endrant
 
  • #320
CARIIS,

Are these the documents you were looking for? (I apologize for not remembering who posted them yesterday)



DCF RECORDS: Nikolas Cruz was Receiving Mental Health Services,
Taking Medication, and Attending School when State Case Closed
http://www.myflfamilies.com/press-r...-mental-health-services-taking-medication-and

Link to Public Documents/Records: http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/newsroom/publicdocuments.asp?path=Headquarters/Records20180219


CONFIDENTIAL INVESTIGATIVE SUMMARY (IS)
http://www.dcf.state.fl.us/newsroom...67_Redacted per court order dated 2.19.18.pdf



I can't believe no one is talking about how there was only one incident involving DCF and it was after NC was 18!

It's seriously hard to believe no one ever called DCF on that family while he was growing up considering there were almost 40 calls to police.
 
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