FL 17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #11

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  • #661
Baby's brains are not the same as adults. When shaken their brain moves more freely within the skull than adults. People do bruise and bleed more easily and that is why after seeing the video I'd be releasing that doctor's report GZ said he had that said his nose was broken and he needed stitches that first night. No reason not to. His family is making statements, why not a report from his doctor. I seen bruises on peole with darker skin. When I get a dark tan if I bruise you can still see it. I don't see an EMT letting GZ go straight to the police station without a doctor checking him out. jmo


Natasha Richardson died thinking she is fine, after taking a hit to the head.
It is not a joke. A hit to the head can be critical. But it does not show right away
most of the time you just feel it..
I am glad he did go check it.
 
  • #662
You forgot to put IMO

I think the statement "the race issue started with GZ's 911 call" is fair and not a matter of opinion. He CLEARLY stated that the BLACK dude was suspicious, not because he was doing ANYTHING wrong, but because he thought it was also black dudes that robbed houses in the neighborhood. How can that NOT be a race issue?

IF white teens rob houses in a particular neighborhood, does that justify stalking and gunning down every white teen that walks down the street, JUST because they are white?
 
  • #663
They usually bag the victim's hands to see if there is any skin residue under the nails. During a fight sometimes people scratch the person they are fighting with. jmo

But he also admitted to a fight. Didn't he?
 
  • #664
I just listened 5 times to the 911 where we hear the screams for help it stops like in the middle of the gunshot it has to be Trayvon why would GZ scream for help while cocking and firing it doesn't make sense IMO
 
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I thought the story goes they were fighting over the gun?
GZ's story makes even less sense if Trayvon did not see the gun.
I believe the thought is that Martin discovered the weapon during the altercation.
 
  • #667
Because it would show that Trayvon was also on the bottom at some point.

GZ being on the ground doesn't automatically show he wasn't still the first aggressor, it could show he was just losing a fight that he started.

JMHO

George was definitely losing. He was on his back.

Why would George get into a fight with strong 17 yr old man, 6 inches taller than he was, when he had a gun to be his "equalizer" against any opponent? That's why one might carry a gun, because one could be challenged by someone who would kick your a**...Why get beat up first?
 
  • #668
George was definitely losing. He was on his back.

Why would George get into a fight with strong 17 yr old man, 6 inches taller than he was, when he had a gun to be his "equalizer" against any opponent? That's why one might carry a gun, because one could be challenged by someone who would kick your a**...Why get beat up first?

Both Trayvon and Zimmerman were solid. George was shorter but had more muscle. Trayvon was taller but was skinny. George, from the video, is a lot more intimidating than the pictures (even with the gold teeth) I've seen of Trayvon.

MOO.
 
  • #669
which have Trayvon going for his gun saying he was going to die tonight.



If George was aggressive and wanted to murder Trayvon for "WWB", he didn't have to wait until he was on the ground and on his back.

The gun wasn't produced until George was on his back being beat up.

Trayvon didn't know about the gun, until George stuck it in his chest and pulled the trigger. A smart man doesn't run towards a gun...
 
  • #670
Martin Savidge just said on Nancy Grace that Zimmerman's clothes were taken so hopefully they were.
 
  • #671
I thought he wasn't a judge.

He was a magistrate Judge. Kind of like a Judge in training similar to Joran's late dad from what I read.:floorlaugh:
 
  • #672
Would anyone who has that interview with the WITNESS WHO SAW THE FIGHT, please repost it.
 
  • #673
I just listened 5 times to the 911 where we hear the screams for help it stops like in the middle of the gunshot it has to be Trayvon why would GZ scream for help while cocking and firing it doesn't make sense IMO

Not to mention the fact that Zimmerman's brother stated that he was barely conscious.


~jmo~
 
  • #674
He was a magistrate Judge. Kind of like a Judge in training similar to Joran's late dad from what I read.:floorlaugh:

Ok but he wasn't a judge right?

That's why I'm asking.

People keep saying he was a judge. That's inaccurate.

And Joran's dad was not in this country so I don't think they are comparable.
Different legal systems all together.
 
  • #675
Plus, George was a bouncer in the past? You have to know how to fight a little bit in order to be a bouncer. All the bouncers I knew got special training because the owner of the club I worked at... his dad owned a Martial Arts studio and he would train the bouncers on how to get unruly customers out of the club without having to fight them physically.
 
  • #676
I'm no wizz with this stuff either!:seeya:


I'm very sorry about that. I tried to fix it. I'm not sure why it showed that way. My sociology background makes that expression (reverse racism) very distasteful to me. I would not knowingly misattribute it. Again, I apologize.
 
  • #677
Not to mention the fact that Zimmerman's brother stated that he was barely conscious.


~jmo~

If he were barely conscious, he would have been rushed to the hospital. I think there's a reason George didn't want to go to the hospital that night. MOO
 
  • #678
Ok but he wasn't a judge right?

That's why I'm asking.

People keep saying he was a judge. That's inaccurate.

And Joran's dad was not in this country so I don't think they are comparable.
Different legal systems all together.


Kimmy I keep reading he was a Magistrate Judge, and his Mom works in the court house too.
EARLY on it was said he was a judge in Orange county. He is retired, so I have no idea.
 
  • #679
If he were barely conscious, he would have been rushed to the hospital. I think there's a reason George didn't want to go to the hospital that night. MOO

Lol, I also think there's a reason George and his lawyer are putting distance between them and the story the brother has told, ooops, what he is saying won't bare out....
 
  • #680
Lol, I also think there's a reason George and his lawyer are putting distance between them and the story the brother has told, ooops, what he is saying won't bare out....

I will say this, his brother is very good looking, imo?

I didn't watch the interview, but I did get a chance to see flashes of him on the television.
 
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