FL 17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #11

[highflyer]

He put himself in that position. If he would have listened to the 911 dispatcher and stayed in his car he would be nice and comfe at home right now. This is the reason we have LE.

He put himself in what position?

 

[rotterdam]

Baby's brains are not the same as adults. When shaken their brain moves more freely within the skull than adults. People do bruise and bleed more easily and that is why after seeing the video I'd be releasing that doctor's report GZ said he had that said his nose was broken and he needed stitches that first night. No reason not to. His family is making statements, why not a report from his doctor. I seen bruises on peole with darker skin. When I get a dark tan if I bruise you can still see it. I don't see an EMT letting GZ go straight to the police station without a doctor checking him out. jmo

Maybe because the injuries were minor and left that decision up to GZ.
It is also possible that GZ went to his regular family physician the next day and subject physician is refusing to exaggerate his injuries.
Was not there an earlier MSM report that had his lawyer stating the SPD refused to have GZ go to the hospital?.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I'm wondering when they took his clothes, I want to see a video of GZ leaving the police station, and what he was wearing then. I wish they would leak that video !

I really wonder who "leaked" the video? It had to be someone in the SPD?

 

[mercuriod]

Natasha R. may have been careless with herself but I do not believe that is the explanation for why GZ did not go to the ER.

And we are all allowed to "believe" anything we want, but as none of us were there and none of us are George it really doesn't matter what we believe. Could be that George thought of himself as some macho man (so much points to this) the he didn't need to go to the ER because he was "beat up" by a younger man.

 

[songline]

Difference is, if George really was nearly unconscious, the EMS would have taken him to the hospital without even asking his permission. It's an extreme exagerration on the families part, imo. And that's okay. They are only going by what George told them.

I will use Natasha R. again. she felt bad and went to lay down. that is not un natural.

Yes if the police saw him looking unconscious, they would have taken him to the ER.
But it does not always show up right then and there. like Natasha who felt it, and thought she will lay down and it will pass... well she passed.

 

[LolaMoon08]

And we are all allowed to "believe" anything we want, but as none of us were there and none of us are George it really doesn't matter what we believe. Could be that George thought of himself as some macho man (so much points to this) the he didn't need to go to the ER because he was "beat up" by a younger man.

It bothers me a little bit though? George was a bouncer in the past? I'd assume he knew how to fight? 28-years-old is not old. He did not look overweight to me in the video. He actually looked quite muscular.

I have a hard time imagining George just laying there, screaming for help, while Trayvon beats on him? He had a lot of energy to scream as loud as he could, but had no energy to use his prior skills (bouncing) to get the upper hand?

MOO

 

[Adrienne37]

Mr. Taaffe speaking out again on Nancy Grace. Let's not forget about the facts. The EMTs had already cleaned Zimmerman up and treated him at the scene. He said we did not need to forget the facts. Zimmerman suffered a contusion.

 

[suzihawk]

I agree that it's odd. I'm not sure what to make of it, but I'm honestly not sure if a magistrate from Virginia really has that sort of pull in Florida. I'd be with you all the way if this occurred in Virginia, but it didn't. And it doesn't even seem like the father held that impressive of a title, to be honest. From what I understand, magistrates are a dime a dozen in the judicial world. Maybe I'm wrong.

It's not necessarily the amount of pull one has or whether he has an impressive title. (cough*Paulus Van der Sloot*cough) More like "the good ole boy network". Could be something as simple as being drinking buddies.

As I've said before, I think they thought this be viewed as just another run of the mill shooting of a n'eer do well black kid that wouldn't even be a blip on the radar. Who would care really? Not even worth trying to locate next of kin. No need to mess up anyone's future or reputation over it.

My opinion.

 

[kimpage]

GZ's friend Frank T. on Nancy Grace guess he didnt get the memo GZ's lawyer said RZ's statements were not true....LOL IMHO

 

[mercuriod]

I will use Natasha R. again. she felt bad and went to lay down. that is not un natural.

Yes if the police saw him looking unconscious, they would have taken him to the ER.
But it does not always show up right then and there. like Natasha who felt it, and thought she will lay down and it will pass... well she passed.

What I am trying to point out is the EMT's could not force him to go to the ER unless he was incoherent, unconscious or an immediate threat to himself or others. Barring all those George had the legal right to refuse further treatment.

 

[Adrienne37]

Taaffee states that his friend, George Zimmerman, was being pummeled by a very physically fit young man. It was him screaming. He was not fit at all.

 

[LolaMoon08]

GZ's friend Frank T. on Nancy Grace guess he didnt get the memo GZ's lawyer said RZ's statements were not true....LOL IMHO

What is he saying? Please and thank-you. Is Nancy ready to jump through the screen?

 

[uvamerica]

Oh boy, the neighbor is on NG, claiming the emts cleaned GZ at the scene, so did they give him clean clothes too ? emts clean the cut, put bandages on patients etc, they don't clean blood off of clothes !! what a bunch of bull ! :moo:

 

[Adrienne37]

What is he saying? Please and thank-you. Is Nancy ready to jump through the screen?

Jean C. is covering for Nancy tonight.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Taaffee states that his friend, George Zimmerman, was being pummeled by a very physically fit young man. It was him screaming. He was not fit at all.

He doesn't look unfit to me? He's not obese? He actually looks muscular. A lot different than his mugshot picture?

 

[songline]

I don't think he is lying at all? I think he did see where George was on the bottom and Trayvon was on the top. The problem is, he did not see how it started. No one has seen how it started. Anyone that we know of anyways?

That is why forensics are going to be important. Especially on the clothes. Area's I would like to know about would be... knee area, back area, and elbow area. I also believe that Trayvon should have blood on his clothes if Zimmerman was bleeding that bad.

I looked at the video again... you are right -he did not see who started the fight.

 

[whiteangora]

Kimmy I keep reading he was a Magistrate Judge, and his Mom works in the court house too.
EARLY on it was said he was a judge in Orange county. He is retired, so I have no idea.

Someone from WS googled his name and found a couple of judges in FL that matched but we never got any verification that it was indeed THE Robert Zimmerman, it's a very common name. HTH
All I know for sure is that he was a magistrate in Virginia and now retired.

 

[rotterdam]

Both Trayvon and Zimmerman were solid. George was shorter but had more muscle. Trayvon was taller but was skinny. George, from the video, is a lot more intimidating than the pictures (even with the gold teeth) I've seen of Trayvon.

MOO.

GZ also does not look like pudgy 250lbs but a lot less and muscular. Where did that 250 lbs come from anyway .SPD?

 

[Adrienne37]

He doesn't look unfit to me? He's not obese? He actually looks muscular. A lot different than his mugshot picture?

I agree. If Zimmerman was the one screaming it's because he was trying to set up his alibi.



~jmo~

 

[indicat]

GZ's friend Frank T. on Nancy Grace guess he didnt get the memo GZ's lawyer said RZ's statements were not true....LOL IMHO

Haha, I was going to post the exact same thing!