FL - Abraham Shakespeare, 42, lottery winner, Polk County, 7 April 2009 #6

[guitarman_fl]

Thankfully you got your modem fixed !! We missed you here.

In my personal opinion, I totally agree that there are others who had knowledge, and or helped in one way or another, in the death of Shakespeare.

Now whether Dee Dee could have pulled this off by herself regarding putting Abraham's body into the backhoe digger (or whatever it's called) and then driving it over to the hole, and then dumping it, I would first have to question whether the Case Backhoe she purchased was an automatic or standard transmission (ie: stick shift).

I know zero about the "Case Backhoe", or any Backhoes for that matter, but knowing how they are used, their purpose, I would be very surprised if they were not all "standard transmisions." So the question would be, did Dee Dee know how to drive that Case Backhoe (and especially *IF* it had a stick shift) to drive it that short sprint from 5732 to 5802 State Rd across the back of the properties?

When our adrenline is high (and hers would have been high that day) we are capable of doing things we wouldn't normally be able to do otherwise.

ACR

well i think if she could have driven it dumped the body, she could have buried the body as well,,,,and taken less of a chance of getting caught in the act. jmo.

 

[Finally_]

finally, do you know how long the backhoe was on the property?

No, this is one of the MANY things that I have been looking into during the last few days.

 

[tigergal71]

Thankfully you got your modem fixed !! We missed you here.

In my personal opinion, I totally agree that there are others who had knowledge, and or helped in one way or another, in the death of Shakespeare.

Now whether Dee Dee could have pulled this off by herself regarding putting Abraham's body into the backhoe digger (or whatever it's called) and then driving it over to the hole, and then dumping it, I would first have to question whether the Case Backhoe she purchased was an automatic or standard transmission (ie: stick shift).

I know zero about the "Case Backhoe", or any Backhoes for that matter, but knowing how they are used, their purpose, I would be very surprised if they were not all "standard transmisions." So the question would be, did Dee Dee know how to drive that Case Backhoe (and especially *IF* it had a stick shift) to drive it that short sprint from 5732 to 5802 State Rd across the back of the properties?

When our adrenline is high (and hers would have been high that day) we are capable of doing things we wouldn't normally be able to do otherwise.

ACR

well, coming from someone whose husband is in the construction business, I know a BIT about them. I don't think they come in "stick shift" style, LOL, not 100% sure on that, but I'm pretty sure you just have buttons and levers that run the equip. I know some other equip on my husband's job has "joysticks", and it can be confusing. I'll guess this was an OLD backhoe, as I'm sure she didn't want to spend a bunch of money on a newer one. JMO...Please note that.
I do know, from watching inexperienced drivers, it's very difficult to 'scoop' the dirt up and make it behave the way you want it to. This is something that's learned over time when running one on a regular basis. I don't think it's completely crazy to think she could have driven the backhoe up to the door where AS' body was, and drag him to the backhoe's bucket (if he was wrapped in the rug...do we know if he was, or was the rug just "disposed of" due to evidence?) and drive him over to hole and dump him in. It wouldn't take much debris to cover the body enough that at a glance it would look like debris from the rennovations. That said, she could have had help too!!!!

I am ready for the answers in this case!!!! I guess if someone else was present when he was murdered, most likely that person helped dispose of the body. If she was alone when she killed him, chances are, she disposed of it alone. Less 'witnesses'.

Either way, I DO NOT SEE how she could sleep at night. Let alone for MONTHS AND MONTHS while she lived out this charade of helping him escape to parts unknown, etc. It's just insane to me that someone could do something like that and live with themselves daily.

I wonder what her thoughts are these days, sittin in her prison cell, knowing she'll probably never see the light of day again. I wish someone would go visit her, talk to her, then tell us what she said. It would be ever so enlightening, I'm sure. Although, it just very well may create more questions than answers. But at least we'd have something else to talk about LOL

 

[blue mermaid]

http://www.ehow.com/how_4826925_drive-a-backhoe.html

Just for grins. Doesn't look terribly complicated.

 

[ACandyRose]

Just thinking out loud here.......

1 - Dee Dee purchased the Case Backhoe on 04/03/09. What would warrant her reasoning for purchasing her own backhoe when she had handy dandy James Moore in his own dirt business whom she could have hired to do all her digging with his own equipment, plus give the father of her child a little business.

2 - The purchase of a backhoe and/or hiring somebody with a backhoe sounds like there was going to be a LOT of major renovation on both houses (assuming this was not a premediatated murder). Thus, backhoe used for transport of trash and digging of holes. This is possibly when Shar was doing all the "honey-do" work on the properties.

3 - Dee Dee originally wanted the hole dug behind the 5732 address but James Moore advised that wasn't a good location and he suggested behind the 5802 address (even though that property was still legally owned by Richard Land). She may have originally wanted the hole closer behind 5732 so she could drag Abraham's body out the back door and into the hole with greater ease.

4 - Four days after she buys the Case Backhoe, Abraham is killed at 5732 State Road house.

5 - Dee Dee canceled the 04/06/09 trip to the Hardrock Casino at 2am on 04/07/09, (and LE reports Abraham was killed between 04/06-04/07). So we have the 7th (later in the day), 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th (a 6 day window) for James Moore to dig that hole. James Moore told LE he dug the hole and then filled the hole within 1-2 hours. This tells me he didn't dig the hole between 04/03-04/07 BEFORE Abraham was killed. He dug the hole AFTER Abraham was killed.

6 - Dee Dee had the 30' x 30' concrete slab poured 04/13/09, so we know that Abraham was killed and buried within 7 days.

7 - My best guess is that she had James Moore dig that hole either the night of 04/07 or shortly thereafter. She picked late night hours, in my opinion, to transport the body and for James Moore not to be able to see clearly in the hole being filled.

8 - Either way, *somebody* had to transport Abraham's body from wherever Dee Dee had it hidden, to the hole and throw it in within that 2 hour window from hole dug to filled.

9 - AND, then *somebody* had to help transport all the trash, concrete, etc. from wherever it was to the hole and throw it in on top of Abraham for James Moore to have thought there was just concrete and trash in the hole.

10 - On 04/14 Dee Dee trades her 2009 Lincoln MKS for a 2009 Chevy Silverado (Blue Mermaid brought this to our attention). It is very possible Abraham's body was wrapped in a rug and in the trunk of that Lincoln and then she or somebody used that car to drive to the hole and dump his body. The question is, WHO helped Dee Dee then get all the concrete and trash into that same hole within that same 2 hour window, before James Moore filled it?

11 - Now we don't know the date, but Dee Dee did give Abraham's 2007 Ford 500 to Sentorria Butler (we can assume this was after Abraham was killed) so there's a possibily that the truck was used for transport. The beginning of May, Judy Haggins (using Abraham's POA) took the 2007 Ford 500 truck back from Sentorria Butler. Why give it to her then take it back?

12 - Sentorria Butler said she told LE that Dee Dee Moore offered her a $200,000 house if she would tell LE that she talked with Abraham. Looking over all of Dee Dee Moore's houses that she could have Quit Claimed over to Butler, the only one that was worth $200,000 was 5802 State Road 60 (even though she would have had to get Shar's signiture to that).

ACR

 

[blue mermaid]

Just thinking out loud here....... ACR

ACR, I unquoted you so my thoughts wouldn't be inside the quote. I do hope you don't mind. : )

1 - Dee Dee purchased the Case Backhoe on 04/03/09. What would warrant her reasoning for purchasing her own backhoe when she had handy dandy James Moore in his own dirt business whom she could have hired to do all her digging with his own equipment, plus give the father of her child a little business.

I've wondered that too, and excellent point. Maybe someone backed out on helping run the backhoe she bought?

2 - The purchase of a backhoe and/or hiring somebody with a backhoe sounds like there was going to be a LOT of major renovation on both houses (assuming this was not a premediatated murder). Thus, backhoe used for transport of trash and digging of holes. This is possibly when Shar was doing all the "honey-do" work on the properties.

Yes, a lot of digging. And illegal to bury trash, from what I understand.
I've wondered if they needed to dig holes for the paintball field? (I don't paintball, but it seems like they would want pits and barriers? just guessing)
And, as you pointed out, it could be premeditated.
ETA: J Moore said DDM asked him what kind of equipment was suitable for clearing land at 5802. He told her a tractor with attachments.

3 - Dee Dee originally wanted the hole dug behind the 5732 address but James Moore advised that wasn't a good location and he suggested behind the 5802 address (even though that property was still legally owned by Richard Land). She may have originally wanted the hole closer behind 5732 so she could drag Abraham's body out the back door and into the hole with greater ease.

I agree with the drag-him-out-the-back-door theory.

4 - Four days after she buys the Case Backhoe, Abraham is killed at 5732 State Road house.

Yes.

5 - Dee Dee canceled the 04/06/09 trip to the Hardrock Casino at 2am on 04/07/09, (and LE reports Abraham was killed between 04/06-04/07). So we have the 7th (later in the day), 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th (a 6 day window) for James Moore to dig that hole. James Moore told LE he dug the hole and then filled the hole within 1-2 hours. This tells me he didn't dig the hole between 04/03-04/07 BEFORE Abraham was killed. He dug the hole AFTER Abraham was killed.

Yes, from what we know.

6 - Dee Dee had the 30' x 30' concrete slab poured 04/13/09, so we know that Abraham was killed and buried within 7 days.

Yes. The 13th was a Monday. Does a freshly-dug hole have to "settle" before concrete is poured on top of it?

7 - My best guess is that she had James Moore dig that hole either the night of 04/07 or shortly thereafter. She picked late night hours, in my opinion, to transport the body and for James Moore not to be able to see clearly in the hole being filled.

I didn't interpret it as late night. When J Moore came back to fill it in, it was "getting dark."

8 - Either way, *somebody* had to transport Abraham's body from wherever Dee Dee had it hidden, to the hole and throw it in within that 2 hour window from hole dug to filled.

Yes.

9 - AND, then *somebody* had to help transport all the trash, concrete, etc. from wherever it was to the hole and throw it in on top of Abraham for James Moore to have thought there was just concrete and trash in the hole.

Yes. Or J Moore knew what was happening.

10 - On 04/14 Dee Dee trades her 2009 Lincoln MKS for a 2009 Chevy Silverado (Blue Mermaid brought this to our attention). It is very possible Abraham's body was wrapped in a rug and in the trunk of that Lincoln and then she or somebody used that car to drive to the hole and dump his body. The question is, WHO helped Dee Dee then get all the concrete and trash into that same hole within that same 2 hour window, before James Moore filled it?

Good question.

11 - Now we don't know the date, but Dee Dee did give Abraham's 2007 Ford 500 to Sentorria Butler (we can assume this was after Abraham was killed) so there's a possibily that the truck was used for transport. The beginning of May, Judy Haggins (using Abraham's POA) took the 2007 Ford 500 truck back from Sentorria Butler. Why give it to her then take it back?

The Ford 500 is a car. (I think you may be thinking about the F-150 that was referred to in some articles.)
If it were used to transport Abraham, maybe DDM thought she better get rid of it a little more permanently?
She could have been running low on funds too and snagged it back just to sell.

12 - Sentorria Butler said she told LE that Dee Dee Moore offered her a $200,000 house if she would tell LE that she talked with Abraham. Looking over all of Dee Dee Moore's houses that she could have Quit Claimed over to Butler, the only one that was worth $200,000 was 5802 State Road 60 (even though she would have had to get Shar's signiture to that).

Excellent question. I would also be surprised if DDM didn't exaggerate the value.

A lot of good points to ponder, and I thank you for bringing them up.

Where the heck was Shar from the 3rd to the 13th? And where was Stitzel on the 6th?

 

[guitarman_fl]

No, this is one of the MANY things that I have been looking into during the last few days.

finally,
if you find out the time frame of the backhoe being on the property, and the time frame of all the people you can connect to the backhoe, this maybe good info.......remember my very last wow.

 

[blue mermaid]

Ok, so on Stitzels son's facebook page, he posts this as his status on Feb 27:

i was your first boyfriend..... ya thats the biggest lie i have ever heard!! woman you need to get your s*** str8!

And the mother of the girl who dated both DDM's son and Stitzels's son (from newspaper article) replies:

"WOW" some people are so clueless... I was asked a question of who was the first boyfriend out of the two boys and I told them the story. The story is str8

They are facebook friends.
This story just gets more and more strange.

 

[ACandyRose]

http://www.ehow.com/how_4826925_drive-a-backhoe.html

Just for grins. Doesn't look terribly complicated.

That site also has a "How to Buy a Backhoe"

How to Buy a Backhoe:

Things You'll Need:
Lots of money

1 - Decide if you need a backhoe, skid steer loader, or mini excavator. Backhoes fall in the mid-range of digging and loading equipment, with more power than compact machines and without the expense of full-sized excavators.

2 - Decide how deep you need to dig. A full-sized backhoe can reach down 14 to 16 feet; compact backhoes can dig 8 to 10 feet deep.

 

[tigergal71]

ACR, I unquoted you so my thoughts wouldn't be inside the quote. I do hope you don't mind. : )

As did I, so I hope you BOTH don't mind
Everyone....Each numbered "point" was originally posted by ACR (Bolded). The responses in black (not bolded) are from BlueMermaid. The Red is from me.

1 - Dee Dee purchased the Case Backhoe on 04/03/09. What would warrant her reasoning for purchasing her own backhoe when she had handy dandy James Moore in his own dirt business whom she could have hired to do all her digging with his own equipment, plus give the father of her child a little business.
I've wondered that too, and excellent point. Maybe someone backed out on helping run the backhoe she bought?
Possibly to keep him and his family clear of any suspicion. If you remember, when she came on here back in December (I read her posts AFTER the fact, so I never corresponded with her or during that time) she very adamantly said he was not involved in any of this, good family, etc. I do believe she was being honest about THAT.

2 - The purchase of a backhoe and/or hiring somebody with a backhoe sounds like there was going to be a LOT of major renovation on both houses (assuming this was not a premediatated murder). Thus, backhoe used for transport of trash and digging of holes. This is possibly when Shar was doing all the "honey-do" work on the properties.

Yes, a lot of digging. And illegal to bury trash, from what I understand.
I've wondered if they needed to dig holes for the paintball field? (I don't paintball, but it seems like they would want pits and barriers? just guessing)
And, as you pointed out, it could be premeditated.
ETA: J Moore said DDM asked him what kind of equipment was suitable for clearing land at 5802. He told her a tractor with attachments.

First, what does ETA mean? That's the ONE I haven't been able to figure out LOL. I totally assume it WAS premediated murder. With as much money as she supposedly had her hands on at that time, I fully believe she would have just rented a dumpster to dispose of it correctly. Although, if I remember correctly, it is VERY expensive to do it like that. I'm sure we could find info online about it. I don't think they needed holes for the paintball field. The field looks like astroturf or something. I believe the rennovations were possibly in process (can't we find permits online in public records? or she was probably doing those "illegally" too (no permits) at the time he was killed. She bought the backhoe knowing what she was going to do with it, but had that great 'alternate' reason of burying trash.

3 - Dee Dee originally wanted the hole dug behind the 5732 address but James Moore advised that wasn't a good location and he suggested behind the 5802 address (even though that property was still legally owned by Richard Land). She may have originally wanted the hole closer behind 5732 so she could drag Abraham's body out the back door and into the hole with greater ease.
I agree with the drag-him-out-the-back-door theory.
From what I remember, she wanted it dug DIRECTLY outside the back door. It was a structural compromise to dig it there. I fully believe this was to drag the body out the back door and into the hole. Less chances of getting caught. SO we are all 3 in agreement there Did HE suggest behind the 5802, or was that her alternate location?

4 - Four days after she buys the Case Backhoe, Abraham is killed at 5732 State Road house.
Yes.
Yes!

5 - Dee Dee canceled the 04/06/09 trip to the Hardrock Casino at 2am on 04/07/09, (and LE reports Abraham was killed between 04/06-04/07). So we have the 7th (later in the day), 8th, 9th, 10th, 11th, 12th (a 6 day window) for James Moore to dig that hole. James Moore told LE he dug the hole and then filled the hole within 1-2 hours. This tells me he didn't dig the hole between 04/03-04/07 BEFORE Abraham was killed. He dug the hole AFTER Abraham was killed.
Yes, from what we know.
This creeps me out...the idea he could have been in that house DEAD while she/they went on with their lives around him!! ICK!!

6 - Dee Dee had the 30' x 30' concrete slab poured 04/13/09, so we know that Abraham was killed and buried within 7 days.
Yes. The 13th was a Monday. Does a freshly-dug hole have to "settle" before concrete is poured on top of it? no not at all. It would take much much time for the dirt in a hole to settle (we're talking years!) I know this because of a hole that was dug in my parents' yard when I was a kid. Many years of driving over it, then it began to settle. Settling does occur after a slab of concrete is poured, which is what causes the cracks in concrete. My hubby's 'specialty' is concrete, though he builds things out of concrete, he doesn't pour slabs and such.

7 - My best guess is that she had James Moore dig that hole either the night of 04/07 or shortly thereafter. She picked late night hours, in my opinion, to transport the body and for James Moore not to be able to see clearly in the hole being filled.
I didn't interpret it as late night. When J Moore came back to fill it in, it was "getting dark."
I didn't interpret it as "late night" either, but it very well could have been 8 or 9pm, if that was after the time change (daylight savings time) I can't remember when it was last year.

8 - Either way, *somebody* had to transport Abraham's body from wherever Dee Dee had it hidden, to the hole and throw it in within that 2 hour window from hole dug to filled.
Yes.
I still believe it could have been done by her alone. She could have drug body to garage, and loaded it in trunk of MKS and drove it to hole. Although, I actually believe she most likely had help with all of it.

9 - AND, then *somebody* had to help transport all the trash, concrete, etc. from wherever it was to the hole and throw it in on top of Abraham for James Moore to have thought there was just concrete and trash in the hole.

Yes. Or J Moore knew what was happening.
I am more inclined to agree with ACR's above. I DO NOT believe JM had anything at all to do with anything criminal to his knowledge. As someone pointed out, he is a witness for the state.

10 - On 04/14 Dee Dee trades her 2009 Lincoln MKS for a 2009 Chevy Silverado (Blue Mermaid brought this to our attention). It is very possible Abraham's body was wrapped in a rug and in the trunk of that Lincoln and then she or somebody used that car to drive to the hole and dump his body. The question is, WHO helped Dee Dee then get all the concrete and trash into that same hole within that same 2 hour window, before James Moore filled it?
Good question.
That is plenty of time to do it all on her own. She would have just had to throw in some scraps of stuff on top of the body, which wouldn't have been very hard....the hard part would have been getting the body from the house to the hole, however it was done.

11 - Now we don't know the date, but Dee Dee did give Abraham's 2007 Ford 500 to Sentorria Butler (we can assume this was after Abraham was killed) so there's a possibily that the truck was used for transport. The beginning of May, Judy Haggins (using Abraham's POA) took the 2007 Ford 500 truck back from Sentorria Butler. Why give it to her then take it back?

The Ford 500 is a car. (I think you may be thinking about the F-150 that was referred to in some articles.)
If it were used to transport Abraham, maybe DDM thought she better get rid of it a little more permanently?
She could have been running low on funds too and snagged it back just to sell.
You gotta think too, this is a VERY SELFISH WOMAN (and many other horrible adjectives could be inserted here) and she may have just simply wanted everything for herself. By doing what ACR describes above, then it still makes her look like the good guy, because she GAVE the car. Someone else TOOK it. Also, she could have been worried about the possibility of suspicions (if Abraham was suspicious of DM and talking to JH about her and his money, then who else might he have mentioned his suspicions to?) I think it was to alleviate any doubt that she was this kind sweet person she was pretending to be. JMO.

12 - Sentorria Butler said she told LE that Dee Dee Moore offered her a $200,000 house if she would tell LE that she talked with Abraham. Looking over all of Dee Dee Moore's houses that she could have Quit Claimed over to Butler, the only one that was worth $200,000 was 5802 State Road 60 (even though she would have had to get Shar's signiture to that).

Excellent question. I would also be surprised if DDM didn't exaggerate the value.
I agree with BlueMermaid on that....but also, she could have been promising she'd BUY her a house (not one she already owned), exaggerating values, just desperately trying to get her to do what she wanted. Maybe it was even the home Sentorria already lived in. I remember her in an interview, and thinking that the house she was in was nice and clean, nice furniture, decor on the wall, etc. Just a guess.
A lot of good points to ponder, and I thank you for bringing them up.

Where the heck was Shar from the 3rd to the 13th? And where was Stitzel on the 6th? VERY good questions!!!! Some we may not know the answers to, till LE reveals all the stuff they know!!!!

 

[tigergal71]

That site also has a "How to Buy a Backhoe"

How to Buy a Backhoe:

Things You'll Need:
Lots of money
.

Not entirely sure I agree with this statement. I'll tell you why.

You have to think, the construction market had pretty much dried up here. All over this area there are huge auction houses that have HUNDREDS of these things going up for auction (heavy equip in general, not just backhoes). If she found an old "ugly" one, (faded paint, not very shiny and new like some of the others) she could have gotten a great deal on it. I'll have to ask my hubby what a backhoe usually goes for at auction. But the market was so flooded with this type of stuff, I'll bet it was much cheaper than "normal". I know my brother in law owned one, and he was offered pennies on the dollar for his. Nowhere near what he wanted for it. It was a mini one, and that might be all she purchased (it had said a mini would dig a hole 8 - 10 feet deep).
At any rate, there are at least TWO machinery auctions very near here, but there is one HUGE one near Haines City (Ritchie Bros, I think it's called) that is located right up next to the interstate in the open, where you can see all their equipment. They just had another auction like a month ago, and I want to say they said 200 acres of equipment. And they weren't lying. More yellow than I've EVER seen at one place at one time. We see it when we drive to and from Orlando.

 

[JLMcKenna83]

I don't know if this helps but I found a table with the daylight hours...

Astronomical Applications Dept.


It's the record from the US Naval Observatory.. So I believe them to be accurate... April 7th there was 12 hours and 38 minutes of daylight..

I also found a link with the sunrise and sunset times for that date from the same site..

Sunrise Sunset Table

On April 7th, the sunset at approx 6:50 pm. So if it was getting dark as JM states, coming back to use the backhoe would have had to of happened sometime after this.

 

[blue mermaid]

tigergal71- ETA means "edited to add" ; )

I do like seeing different thoughts and questions.

I believe she could have dumped Abraham in the hole by herself, but I wouldn't be surprised if someone helped either. Didn't someone post just a short time ago that *someone* could make DDM "jump" too? Who could that person have been?

If I recall correctly, J Moore suggested the hole go behind 5802.

IF (and this is a BIG IF) the tiles where the "oil spill" occurred were in the hole with Abraham, then there had to have been a helper IMO.

I appreciate the input on the dirt not having to settle. I've never had occasion to dig a big ol' hole and then pour concrete over it.

And thanks to JLMcKenna83 for the sunset time.

How long would it take to dig a hole large enough to place a body 5-6 ft down? (I *think* that's what the paper said- I could be wrong.) An hour at the most? If so, then J Moore started digging in the late afternoon, left for an hour or two, then came back about 7ish.

 

[Boyz_Mum]

IIRC daylight savings time for 2009 began on March 8 (increasing the number of daylight hours). It seemed earlier than 'normal' in 09, or maybe it was just me? :crazy:

It's JMO but I would think if someone were disposing of trash in a hole it would be best to do under the cover of dusk- especially if there's a body in there? It may not have been fully dark when JM backfilled and he may not have cared what DDM was disposing of (and I kind of wonder if the rug wouldn't have created a 'cover' if JM had looked in the hole?) I also didn't make too much of JM suggesting a site for the hole. If he has knowledge of underground power lines or the water table or picked the most inconspicuous place to dig the hole, I'm still not sold that he had knowledge of the murder and disposal of AS. (JMO.)

I honestly believe that DDM could place a body in that hole all by herself. There's only one other person I suspect is involved in AS's murder and possibly could have helped in the disposal of the body knowingly and it's not JM the ex and I'm still not thinking her boyfriend helped her either. (This is jmo and I could be totally wrong!)

And blue mermaid, I don't think it would take a skilled backhoe operator too long to dig a hole the size JM dug. IMO. We've never dug to bury trash but it didn't take long to have the hole dug for a septic tank and they had lots of rocks and a high water table to deal with.

 

[Finally_]

https://ori2.polk-county.net/ct_web...hType=Party+Name&ascaseid=371915&ascrttype=CR
Has this already been looked into, or does anyone have any idea of what this was all about? Same DDM we are talking about, or coincidence of same name in this case?

 

[Boyz_Mum]

https://ori2.polk-county.net/ct_web...hType=Party+Name&ascaseid=371915&ascrttype=CR
Has this already been looked into, or does anyone have any idea of what this was all about? Same DDM we are talking about, or coincidence of same name in this case?

I haven't seen this (it may have been posted and I missed it).

Does this say that DDM was suing Abraham? (I think it's one in the same DDM, I hope someone chimes in and can decipher it.)

 

[Rizzy]

https://ori2.polk-county.net/ct_web...hType=Party+Name&ascaseid=371915&ascrttype=CR
Has this already been looked into, or does anyone have any idea of what this was all about? Same DDM we are talking about, or coincidence of same name in this case?

Same DDM, this is related to the getting in to the lock box situation by the looks of it.

http://www.acandyrose.com/abraham_shakespeare-2008.htm

Scroll down to the 2008-10-14 entry ...

 

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BROOKS DANIEL F 02/01/2001 DEED HILLSBOROUGH 2001032904 10589/1884 1
****Description:
MOORE JAMES;
MOORE DEE DEE SUNCOAST SCHOOLS FEDERAL CREDIT UNION 10/19/2006 ORDER HILLSBOROUGH 2006503945 17083/450 3
****Description:
MOORE DEE DEE SUNCOAST SCHOOLS FEDERAL CREDIT UNION 05/27/1997 UCC FINANCE STATEMENT HILLSBOROUGH 97131850 8576/746 1
****Description: PO BOX 433 SYDNEY FL 33587
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[A_New_Day]

Above notice when the IRS lean was cleared and I recall DMoore posting about paying off Supposedly for AS

here's results for shar:

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Order From To Date Document Type County Instrument Number Book/Page Pages
GEIGER DEBORAH SPENCER;
SPENCER DARLENE KRASNIQI SHAR ANTHONY 03/13/2009 DEED GULF 200923001041 472/189 2
****Description: FARM 6 GULF COUNTY FARMS INC PROPERTIES ( View Image )
LAND RICHARD JR KRASNIQI SHAR 04/30/2009 DEED HILLSBOROUGH 2009141057 19229/1048 1
****Description: PT S23 T29 R21
KRASNIQI SHAR MARLIN JAMES INC 02/20/2009 NOTICE OF COMMENCEMENT HILLSBOROUGH 2009057759 19110/1082 1
****Description: PT S23 T29 R21
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[A_New_Day]

I was looking for mostly domestic related here
Stitzel:


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The number of Pages are estimated for documents where the Pages value is marked with *.
Order From To Date Document Type County Instrument Number Book/Page Pages
STITZEL,DAVID HOWARD III PROSTKO,VERONICA SUSAN 08/04/1990 MARRIAGE RECORD HILLSBOROUGH BK418PG225 418/225 1
****Description:
STITZEL DAVID HOWARD III SANDERS VINA LEAH 05/11/2005 MARRIAGE RECORD HILLSBOROUGH 2005198977 689/1026 1
****Description:
STITZEL DAVID HOWARD III STITZEL VERONICA PROSTKO 07/22/2004 JUDGMENT HILLSBOROUGH 2004282103 14053/1690 42
****Description:
CHASE BANK USA NA STITZEL DAVID H III 03/10/2009 JUDGMENT HILLSBOROUGH 2009077916 19140/1717 1
****Description: Case# 08-33999
STITZEL VERONICA P;
HILLSBOROUGH COUNTY CENTRAL GOVT DEP STITZEL DAVID HOWARD III 06/23/2008 DOMESTIC RELATIONS JUDGMENT HILLSBOROUGH 2008224697 18712/39 1
****Description: Case# 04-DR-011088
STITZEL VERONICA PROSTKO STITZEL D HOWARD III;
STITZEL DAVID HOWARD III 02/21/2005 COURT PAPER HILLSBOROUGH 2005070187 14702/722 4
****Description:
SUNTRUST BANK STITZEL DAVID H III 09/23/2009 JUDGMENT HILLSBOROUGH 2009316028 19480/20 4
****Description: Case# 09-CA-014436
STITZEL DAVID HOWARD III STITZEL VERONICA PROSTKO 02/21/2005 COURT PAPER HILLSBOROUGH 2005070203 14702/866 5
****Description: AMEND
SUNCOAST SCHOOLS FEDERAL CREDIT UNION STITZEL DAVID HOWARD III 10/05/2009 JUDGMENT HILLSBOROUGH 2009329795 19497/1715 3
****Description: Case# 2009-CC-019690
STITZEL DAVID HOWARD III STITZEL VERONICA PROSTKO 07/28/2004 COURT PAPER HILLSBOROUGH 2004290285 14070/1275 4
****Description:
STITZEL DAVID HOWARD III STITZEL VINA LEAH 07/22/2009 DOMESTIC RELATIONS JUDGMENT HILLSBOROUGH 2009238247 19371/420 4
****Description: Case# 09-DR-0011843
STITZEL DAVID HOWARD II DECD;
STITZEL WILMA JEAN EST;
SNYDER MICHAEL E PR ALAMO RENT-A-CAR INC;
AUTONATION INC;
REPUBLIC IND;
LAPOINTE SHAMASH EST;
TAYLOR ROD PR 11/09/2000 ORDER ORANGE 20000477024 6127/833 2
****Description: CIO99-5480
SNYDER MICHAEL E PR;
STITZEL DAVID HOWARD EST LAPOINTE SHAMASH EST;
REPUBLIC IND INC;
AUTONATION INC;
TAYLOR ROD PR;
ALAMO RENT-A-CAR INC 05/01/2000 ORDER ORANGE 20000176586 5991/4725 2
****Description: CI-99-5480
STITZEL WILMA JEAN EST;
STITZEL DAVID HOWARD II DECD;
SNYDER MICHAEL E PR ALAMO RENT-A-CAR INC;
TAYLOR ROD PR;
REPUBLIC IND INC;
AUTONATION INC;
LAPOINTE SHAMASH EST 12/18/2000 COURT PAPER ORANGE 20000530904 6152/2265 4
****Description: CI-99-5480 APL
STITZEL DAVID HOWARD II EST;
SNYDER MICHAEL E PR;
STITZEL WILMA JEAN EST LAPOINTE SHAMASH EST;
TAYLOR ROD PR;
AUTONATION INC;
ALAMO RENT-A-CAR INC 11/10/2000 ORDER ORANGE 20000479731 6128/1926 2
****Description: CIO99-5480
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