FL - Anna Kepner, 18, dies aboard Carnival cruise ship traveling from Miami to Caribbean, FBI launch probe, 7 Nov 2025

  • #901
Exactly! Odds are she just really didn't want to sit through a loong, whole family dinner after she was finished eating herself, having to make polite with 9 year old kids, the mom of the moment, grands, etc.

It was said that she liked to try different makeup and hair, even if she wasn't going anywhere special so she probably just wanted to grab some time to change outfits and primp for the evening. She did show up later in the casino to visit with her grandmother a bit.

Against all odds and with the difficult circumstances of her life, she seemed to be a very sweet young woman.

She might have just wanted to SHOWER while her bunkmates were occupied. Dinner might have been the only time they were supervised and an opportune time for her to shower with privacy.

JMO
 
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  • #902

Anna Kepner's Dad Says Stepson 'Should Face the Consequences' After Family Tragedy on Cruise Ship (Exclusive)​

Christopher Kepner tells PEOPLE: "I cannot say that he is responsible but I can’t decline"

While declining to confirm or deny any knowledge about his stepson's possible involvement, Christopher tells PEOPLE, "I do not stand behind what my stepson has done."

He adds: "I want him to face the consequences ... I will be fighting to make sure that does happen."

What a word salad!
 
  • #903

Anna Kepner's Dad Says Stepson 'Should Face the Consequences' After Family Tragedy on Cruise Ship (Exclusive)​

Christopher Kepner tells PEOPLE: "I cannot say that he is responsible but I can’t decline"

While declining to confirm or deny any knowledge about his stepson's possible involvement, Christopher tells PEOPLE, "I do not stand behind what my stepson has done."

He adds: "I want him to face the consequences ... I will be fighting to make sure that does happen."

Wow, another dodge! WTH is is wrong with this family! Poor Anna!
 
  • #904
So Anna’s bio mother did attend her funeral, in case none of the prior posts verified that.

She describes how she was kept from Anna, that she was threatened with arrest for back child support, if she attended. As sad as that is, knowing we all jump on men for not paying, in no way should that be an excuse for not allowing her at her daughter’s funeral.

My suspicion is Anna’s bio father was violent with Anna’s bio mother & threatened her, to keep her out of Anna’s life. He sounds like a control freak that rules with fear & violence. No wonder the oldest stepson bailed. JMO

Always love your child, more than you hate your ex.
Your last sentence says it all. ❤️
 
  • #905
From what I have read AK was in an inside cabin #8447. Attached a picture of the deck plan and a picture of the room. 8447 is to accommodate 2 guests and is not an adjoining room. Since all of the children were minors my guess is each of the parents booked a separate room stating 1 adult would be in each room with either of the children. Once onboard you go to guest services and request additional keys for each room then you can have everyone sleep wherever you want. My guess is AK and her 16 year old step sibling were in this room that only accommodates 2 and the younger child was with the parents and probably slept on the sofa in their room.
Her younger half brother was also in the room with AK and Tim. Her younger 1/2 sister and S’s daughter were in the parents’ room.
 
  • #906
If I may venture an opinion, if a person is not in their right mind, they are not responsible for their actions. At this point, Chris probably doesn't know the answer to whether or not the stepson was in his right mind. But the stepson should still face whatever consequences are assigned to whether he was or was not in his right mind.

Just my thought process.
If he got up and went to breakfast the next morning, I'd say he's in his right mind all the time
 
  • #907
If he got up and went to breakfast the next morning, I'd say he's in his right mind all the time
I just heard two lawyers (Peter Tragos & his dad) discuss this issue in relation to the "Slender Man Attackers" and how mental competency is proven legally. There is some variation state to state but bottom line opinion was that it is difficult to meet the criteria in a murder trial.
 
  • #908
If he got up and went to breakfast the next morning, I'd say he's in his right mind all the time
Sadly, I truly respectfully disagree, depending on the situation. I do understand and wish what you posted were so, but in my experience, again depending on the situation, people can do things and have a memory gap where that went or think it was a nightmare that wasn't real. I have no idea in this case, so I am waiting to find out. And I think Chris is also waiting to find out before saying something that would cause any kind of issue to any case that could be made. But JMO.
 
  • #909
So Anna’s bio mother did attend her funeral, in case none of the prior posts verified that.

She describes how she was kept from Anna, that she was threatened with arrest for back child support, if she attended. As sad as that is, knowing we all jump on men for not paying, in no way should that be an excuse for not allowing her at her daughter’s funeral.

My suspicion is Anna’s bio father was violent with Anna’s bio mother & threatened her, to keep her out of Anna’s life. He sounds like a control freak that rules with fear & violence. No wonder the oldest stepson bailed. JMO

Always love your child, more than you hate your ex.

I feel terrible for her. Textbook case of parental alienation IMO
 
  • #910
If the case is prosecuted and they go with an insanity defense, the defense will have to prove it.

The defendant has the burden of proving the defense of insanity by clear and convincing evidence.

Totally agree. But we have no idea what is going on behind the scenes. Can they stall any kind of interview with the 16 yo should he happened to have been checked into a mental hospital? Will the detectives have to wait for an evaluation? Are they putting together some kind of plea deal?

While I think the marriage is pretty much toast anyway, if Chris Kepner came out and said "That boy deserves to die for what he did to my daughter", before the 16 yo has even been arrested, then the marriage is done right now and maybe he wants to try and save it. I don't pretend to understand the situation, just why he is saying what he is saying in the way he is saying it. That makes sense to me if he's trying to preserve anything. The situation I don't get at all. Not one bit of it.
 
  • #911
@Sillybilly

I was speaking figuratively, that her bed wasn't even sacred, the one instance during her FaceTime with her boyfriend and then presuming she was was fatally attacked in bed, in the cruise. My unspoken point was that a girl should be safe in her own bed.

Didn't mean to confuse!

JMO
 
  • #912
The fact that he hid the body shows that he was aware that he did something wrong. That, in itself, shows that he was not insane at the time of the crime.

JMO.
Exactly.

However, I’ll bet my bottom dollar when/if the 16 yo is charged, imo that fact won’t stop his DT from putting forth NGRI defense strategy.
If so, a very high legal bar to clear/meet with burden on the defendant/DT to prove. IMO people/murderers that are legit insane don’t try to cover up their crime, hide body etc. Think Andrea Yates. Very rare and imo very few and far between cases that the defendant is proven in a court of law to have been insane at the time of their crime.

IMHOO
 
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  • #914
If I may venture an opinion, if a person is not in their right mind, they are not responsible for their actions.

people can do things and have a memory gap where that went or think it was a nightmare that wasn't real

I assume you are referring to legal insanity, which includes not knowing right from wrong.

But if there was a history of him acting inappropriately (or worse) toward her, I think it's likely he continued his status quo but escalated.

If you think about him hiding her body and then going about acting "normally" until she was found, that is not typical behavior for someone who is legally insane.

Not having a memory of an event, if that's even believable in this case, is also not the same as being insane during the event.
All IMO.
 
  • #915
I don't think that the excuse of "blackout drunk" is a valid defense either. Especially for an underage teen. Can they sue the cruise ship company for a teen that managed to get alcohol on the trip? Teens can be extremely inventive to get things they are not allowed to have.
 
  • #916
What a word salad!
Word salad, indeed! Maybe I’m just too simple minded. But if the son of my “wife of the week” had just murdered my daughter, I think I could be a bit less ambiguous and a bit more pointed with my comments. I’ll just leave it at that.
 
  • #917
ORLANDO, Fla. - A newly issued ruling is poised to open a window into the final hours of 18-year-old Anna Kepner's life.

With a judge refusing to seal a related custody case, family members hope long-withheld details about her death aboard a cruise ship will finally come to light.

[…]
A Brevard County judge ruled this week that the custody case involving Anna’s stepmother and her ex-husband will remain open to the public—meaning Anna’s father, Christopher Kepner, may be required to testify.

 
  • #918
Please don't tell me that the younger brother who was locked out and heard the commotion in the room was when the stepbrother attacked and killed Anna. I think so.... Chairs being thrown was perhaps Anna trying to protect herself.
This is awful, and her younger brother has to live with actually hearing this attack that resulted in his sister's death.
I find it inconceivable that dad didn’t check on his sick daughter at all that night. If on top of that this wee boy told dad what was going on in that room (and surely he would have), and even that didn’t make him check on her, then the 16 year old isn’t the only one who should be facing charges.
JMO.
 
  • #919
imo that very much seems most likely but I feel like somethings off with all these story's, I haven't seen anyone mention anything of cameras? do we have any footage of where she was when?? the casino account from gma just seems weird to me, she comes back all dressed up just to blow $20 then leave right after? maybe I'm just tired but seems odd to dress up for a 5 min interaction yk

I’m sure there’s lots of camera footage, but just going to add my speculation here-
I went to a private Christian school from K4 -Senior in Central Florida. I skipped two years to “try” public school and just couldn’t really adjust after being in a rigid baptist environment for so long. I was a cheerleader, I went on a cruise when I was 18 (with my boyfriend and his family). I would have absolutely said I wasn’t feeling well to escape family dinner, get cute, and go to the casino for a brief time before moving on to something else…or just being bored with it and moving on. I don’t think it’s odd at all. All JMO ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
  • #920
The original news stories made it sound like during dinner Anna said she wasn't feeling well, so she left and returned to her cabin, and that was the last anyone saw her. More info has come out and we now know her braces were bothering her, but she apparently felt better later and got dressed up and went to join family again sometime after dinner. (I agree with many that she may have simply wanted some alone time.)

She joined her grandparents in the casino for awhile, but left. Have we heard anything about her meeting up with other family members? We know surveillance cameras show her returning to the cabin with the stepbrother. Was her younger brother with them? I think I read he was with them, but left again to take pictures. Did her dad see her before they returned to the cabin? And do we know what time they were on video going to the cabin?

Just trying to get a sense of a timeline of that night.
 

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