GUILTY FL - Calyx, 16, & Beau Schenecker, 13, shot to death, Tampa, 27 Jan 2011 #6

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 48s
#JulieSchenecker “you can’t hide mental illness when your tongue is thrusting. you don’t even know you’re doing it."

This is bad. There are tons of people with physical disabilities who are not insane.

 

[minor4th]

IMO she needs to make these points about Parker, but she needs to stress that he did not understand the depth of JS' illness (I think that's true)

 

[zoey]

Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive · 53s
Defense's summary of his email: "Hey my wife, she’s suicidal and I’m going to the Rose Bowl" #ScheneckerTrial


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ABCActionNewsCourt ‏@actionnewscourt · 1m
Defense: Email from Parker Schenecker to dr: Hey my wife is suicidal and I'm going to the Rose Bowl. #ScheneckerTrial

 

[zoey]

ABCActionNewsCourt ‏@actionnewscourt · 1m
Defense: The state and Mr. Schenecker want you to believe at this time she's functioning again. #ScheneckerTrial

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

And who's choice was it do to that?

In this day of reduced ( and sometimes non exsistant) personal responsibility it is EVRYONE else's!

 

[popsicle]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 23s
#JulieSchenecker “she’s a 50 year old with the judgement of a 10 year old. the 10 year old is the 1 that’s here"

 

[ricky_ticky]

You're right, the burden to prove insanity is on the defense. But they can't produce any doctor because she's obviously not insane. She's just another vicious, vindictive killer who was out for revenge. She not only knew what she was doing, she wrote it down so she could go back and enjoy her handiwork all over again.

JMO

IIRC the defense had two doctors - a Dr. Solomon who saw JS the night she was arrested, and Dr. Maher, who wrote a report of 130-some odd pages about JS (the longest report he'd ever written.) I found Dr. Maher particularly believable and would want to take a long hard look at his report if I were on the jury. IMO

 

[popsicle]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 15s
#JulieSchenecker “this is about my client that thought about suicide for years/years/years & her brain got her to do it"

Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 28s
Def: This is not abt blaming Parker Schenecker this is abt #JulieSchenecker illness that finally got the best of her bc she was alone

 

[Abigail]

If I were the State, during rebuttal, I'd just take about 3 minutes and repeat the points that Dr. Taylor (I think it was) made -- just went through the prongs of the insanity defense -- and gave 3 or 4 examples from her journal and statements in the day or two after the murders -- to prove she does not meet the criteria for insanity.

That's all that really matters.

And, if the Defense really wants to prove her insane --- that's all they need to do...use examples from her journal and statements to prove she was insane.

 

[Jewels53]

Minor 4th can an attorney tell when the jury has checked out from listening to them?

 

[zoey]

ABCActionNewsCourt ‏@actionnewscourt · 43s
Defense: This is not about blaming Parker Schenecker or anyone else for what happened in this case. #ScheneckerTrial

Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive · 51s
Defense: “Don’t be mistaken, this is not about blaming Parker Schenecker or anyone else for what happened in this case." #ScheneckerTrial

ABCActionNewsCourt ‏@actionnewscourt · 3m
Defense: The state and Mr. Schenecker want you to believe at this time she's functioning again. #ScheneckerTrial

Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive · 41s
Julie as always suicidal defense says. "Her brain and her illness finally got her to do it because she’s alone." #ScheneckerTrial

 

[angelainwi]

Importantly, when an Affirmative Defense is raised, the defendant must present some evidence to support the defense. If such evidence is presented, the burden shift back to the State to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt that the defense is not applicable.

http://www.richardhornsby.com/crimin...ses/trial.html

I'm aware of the burden, but the burden starts with the Defense. Arguing the obligation is on the Prosecution is going to lead to an IAC appeal.

 

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Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee 27s
Def: There is no doubt Parker Schenecker was dedicated to his family, #JulieSchenecker knows that in her healthy mind

Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 57s
Defarker dedicated to being married to #JulieSchenecker knew that in her healthy mind. In fact going to counseling

 

[zoey]

Tampa Bay Times Live ‏@TBTimesLive · 46s
“Parker is trying to be active in her treatment because he knows something is really wrong” #ScheneckerTrial

 

[popsicle]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 38s
#JulieSchenecker “This’s a marriage where they’ve been thru ups&downs-There’s no doubt Parker Schenecker was dedicated 2 being married 2 JS"

Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee 35s
Def: Her children and her husband are coming into therapy, it should have been the happiest day of her life #JulieSchenecker

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Defense saying she didn't sign the Hippa waiver because she didn't want him to find out about her gambling...she'd apparently confided to her docs about that.

And that's something I've been wondering about...he let her control the household finances (accdg to his testimony), and didn't find out about the gambling until after the murders. But wasn't there something said about a $10K loan to pay off the gambling debts or to pay the household bills or something?

He sure wouldn't be the first husband who trusted their wife completely with the finances and later learned the wife was very untrustworthy.

She was probably spending a lot of money on alcohol and gambling behind his back and not paying their monthly bills.

I think I read he had to take out a loan after she murdered the children to pay off her gambling debt.

IMO

 

[Rhozwen]

What were the circumstances of the 9-month hospitalization?

Seems like it was a clinical trial

"As the years went on, she visited doctors around the world and even entered into a nine-month clinical trial for her depression at the National Institute of Mental Health."

Cited from this article:

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/fla-military-moms-ex-husband-testifies-at-kids-murder-trial/

 

[CUCKOOHEAD]

Wild About Trial ‏@WildAboutTrial 23s
#JulieSchenecker “she’s a 50 year old with the judgement of a 10 year old. the 10 year old is the 1 that’s here"

How many 10 year olds kill two other people? JS wanted to have things her way that is her immaturity. Nothing else.

 

[popsicle]

Trial Queen Sharee ‏@TrialQnSharee 24s
Def: You heard the Dr's say #JulieSchenecker was at the bottom of the barrel in her mental state, she was at her worst on day of incident

Gloria Gomez, FOX 13 ‏@ggome13 30s
The claws of her bipolar illness usually relent but not this time says def

 

[minor4th]

Minor 4th can an attorney tell when the jury has checked out from listening to them?

Yes but I imagine the jury is paying attention