GUILTY FL - Chance Walsh, 7 wks, North Port, 7 Oct 2015 #2

[Bobbywoo]

My daughter is a teenager, soon to be own her own ( heart pain) and I will often still get in her bed and curl up behind her and smell her hair. She still smells like "her". And many mornings my taller-than-me girl creeps into my bed after my DH leaves for work for a cuddle. Most precious part of my day.

Do you think it would be weird if I moved in once she gets married so I can still cuddle? No? Stalkerish? Lol

Nothing about Chance's story is funny, so I am sorry for making light. I know that feeling of screaming into a pillow or bursting into tears the moment help arrives.

But when you love your kids, you choose what is right (not always, but on the big things).

Poor Chance was never loved. Not by his parents, not by his extended family. He was dead for a month before anyone cared. I hope that if I am dead for an hour, there is someone to notice and to care. Maybe that is why I am at WS. We are the people that care for the forgotten.

One of my favorite posts ever! Thank you Ellie, that was very touching

 

[Momoffourboys]

Why would JW sodomize this baby? I am not understanding why posters are thinking that.

I know he's a sick piece of crap and all. But to sodomize the baby? Why?
I think he shoved the paci and wipe down his throat because he was crying. He was getting on his nerves.

Does JW have any sx abuse charges? He didn't come up as a registered sex offender when I looked.

So hard to even imagine any of this.
And that sweet boy sucking his little thumb.

 

[bessie]

Why would JW sodomize this baby? I am not understanding why posters are thinking that.

I know he's a sick piece of crap and all. But to sodomize the baby? Why?
I think he shoved the paci and wipe down his throat because he was crying. He was getting on his nerves.

Does JW have any sx abuse charges? He didn't come up as a registered sex offender when I looked.

So hard to even imagine any of this.
And that sweet boy sucking his little thumb.

My mind didn't go there, either. What we've heard is hard enough to digest. It wouldn't be the first time, however.

 

[Momoffourboys]

My mind didn't go there, either. What we've heard is hard enough to digest. It wouldn't be the first time, however.

BBM

Ain't that the truth.
I am laying in bed next to my sleeping baby boy. Staring at his freckles and beautiful long eyelashes. Listening to him breathe and crying.

 

[Mimiof8]

I wonder why his parental rights were terminated for his 7 other children.

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I wonder why his parental rights were terminated for his 7 other children.

The question we all want to know. It had to be worse then not paying child support. That just makes you a crappy parent, but to remove and terminate your rights has to be pretty bad.

 

[EllieBee]

Between Chance being dead for a month before anyone cared and Janiya Thomas being missing for a year without anyone noticing I'm ready to give up on people.

Awww, bluesneakers;

There are good people. They are here, and really all around us. The bad stuff gets our attention BECAUSE it is so bad. The day we no longer blink at this kind of evil is the day I will worry.

:grouphug:

#chanceforlife

 

[EllieBee]

Why would JW sodomize this baby? I am not understanding why posters are thinking that.

I know he's a sick piece of crap and all. But to sodomize the baby? Why?
I think he shoved the paci and wipe down his throat because he was crying. He was getting on his nerves.

Does JW have any sx abuse charges? He didn't come up as a registered sex offender when I looked.

So hard to even imagine any of this.
And that sweet boy sucking his little thumb.

I apologize. That was dark speculation. After Ellorah Rose and Lilith Peters and way too many others, the diaper wipe-throat trauma story seemed to be a horrible cover up to a darker truth. But, no, there is no proof of that. I apologize if I mislead.

 

[EllieBee]

I wonder why his parental rights were terminated for his 7 other children.

Reading between the lines on his many arrest records, I think it was DV. He has charges where the victim's names are redacted, I assume because they are minors and likely his children. Wading thru his
criminal history.....well, pack a lunch.

 

[MsMarple]

I apologize. That was dark speculation. After Ellorah Rose and Lilith Peters and way too many others, the diaper wipe-throat trauma story seemed to be a horrible cover up to a darker truth. But, no, there is no proof of that. I apologize if I mislead.

And don't forget Hiawayi Robinson. I think many of us who followed those cases go to the dark place a little faster when we read things like we're reading here. Or at least I do. What these people did to Chance is so far removed from a case of a caregiver getting frustrated with a fussy baby and momentarily lashing out that any despicable act is possible.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I apologize. That was dark speculation. After Ellorah Rose and Lilith Peters and way too many others, the diaper wipe-throat trauma story seemed to be a horrible cover up to a darker truth. But, no, there is no proof of that. I apologize if I mislead.

No. No. Don't apologize. I just wanted to know what made you think that. Because I didn't. I thought I missed something. :heartbeat:

 

[DisneyFan]

In answer to the question why the extradition took so long. In my county in Florida it took one week to extradite from Tennessee to Florida for family member. A transport service filled the van from city to city. Each inmate was handcuffed, shackled in their seat. It wasn't pleasant by any means. Not at all like we see via movies. That said, they both came back to Florida quicker than what I described
Probably because of the charges.
Horrible case. Heartbreaking for innocent baby Chance. Ironically he never really had a chance.

 

[Nosey Neighbor]

No. No. Don't apologize. I just wanted to know what made you think that. Because I didn't. I thought I missed something. :heartbeat:

Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? It's a line of problem-solving reasoning that is based on the principle that the simplest answer is usually the correct one. Lies are usually way more complicated than the truth--and making a complicated explanation to try to explain something simple--doesn't makes sense. So, yes, when someone states that they did a lot of damage to a baby's mouth and throat while trying to remove a baby wipe, I don't find that believable period. And I am sorry to say that as a pediatric nurse in a large hospital and an ER nurse in the inner city, I witnessed what depraved people can and do to babies and children. I wish I did not have memories like that.

 

[Jovi Girl]

I had nightmares last night . I'm hesitant to go to sleep tonight .I should probably not read here for a few days . Just a quick question, It's been said in various news sources that K also had Children and Family services ( or whatever it's called in Fla ) involved in her life in the early 2000's . We can't find any sign of her having any children back then . What is everyone's thoughts on what that could be about ? Was she a minor and they were involved due to her family ?

 

[Karinna]

Why couldn't the horror duo have just OD'd on drugs before any poor unfortunate children could of been born to them. This kind of evil should not be on this earth IMO, for the innocent ones that had to put up with these types of degenerates. Society and its laws really need to change where there is zero tolerance for these types of crimes, its sickening to say the least.

 

[bessie]

I had nightmares last night . I'm hesitant to go to sleep tonight .I should probably not read here for a few days . Just a quick question, It's been said in various news sources that K also had Children and Family services ( or whatever it's called in Fla ) involved in her life in the early 2000's . We can't find any sign of her having any children back then . What is everyone's thoughts on what that could be about ? Was she a minor and they were involved due to her family ?

I don't know the circumstances, but the incidents involved her as a parent. She would've been about 20-21 at the time.

 

[Karinna]

I just found this article & thought i would post here even though it's an article from last year. At least it's a start:

Tenn. passes law criminalizing moms who used drugs while pregnant
Tennessee is resurrecting a law that aims to address drug abuse among pregnant women – by charging new moms with crimes.

Gov. Bill Haslam, a Republican, signed a bill into law Tuesday that would allow charges to be brought against a new mother if her infant’s “addiction or harm is a result of her illegal use of a narcotic drug taken while pregnant.” Haslam called the measure a useful tool to address a growing drug epidemic.
http://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/tennessee-passes-law-criminalize-moms-drugs

 

[JustFaith]

Why would JW sodomize this baby? I am not understanding why posters are thinking that.

I know he's a sick piece of crap and all. But to sodomize the baby? Why?
I think he shoved the paci and wipe down his throat because he was crying. He was getting on his nerves.

Does JW have any sx abuse charges? He didn't come up as a registered sex offender when I looked.

So hard to even imagine any of this.
And that sweet boy sucking his little thumb.

Why would JW sodomize this baby? I am not understanding why posters are thinking that.

I know he's a sick piece of crap and all. But to sodomize the baby? Why?
I think he shoved the paci and wipe down his throat because he was crying. He was getting on his nerves.

Does JW have any sx abuse charges? He didn't come up as a registered sex offender when I looked.

So hard to even imagine any of this.
And that sweet boy sucking his little thumb.

Have you ever heard of Occam's Razor? It's a line of problem-solving reasoning that is based on the principle that the simplest answer is usually the correct one. Lies are usually way more complicated than the truth--and making a complicated explanation to try to explain something simple--doesn't makes sense. So, yes, when someone states that they did a lot of damage to a baby's mouth and throat while trying to remove a baby wipe, I don't find that believable period. And I am sorry to say that as a pediatric nurse in a large hospital and an ER nurse in the inner city, I witnessed what depraved people can and do to babies and children. I wish I did not have memories like that.

Hi, all... I'm new here. Lurking since 2008 (yes, CA). (Hope I get this right and don't get banished on my first post, since this case has just touched my heart on so many levels!)

Firstly, my thoughts (sadly) echo NN: Too many details to explain the "stuck wipe", mouth damage, and KB as the attempted heroine.

I think... KB can accept people thinking they are drug users and that JW is abusive (it's all his fault, she's a victim too, yada yada) since all are well-known facts, and that gives her (them) a defense.....But maybe she didn't want everyone to know JW is a sexual deviant, because that makes HER look worse because of how she so publicly worshipped him?

We don't know yet (as far as I know) what they argued about... but if it was sexual and she refused? Maybe all of this explains the painstaking detail and time the ME is spending with poor little baby Chance right now a week later? (If they've released autopsy results and confirmed his identity, I'm unaware.)

What a horribly graphic first post: so sorry.

Secondly....Sending out a prayer and LOTS of good juju for the hearts of all the child advocates who reside here! You ALL are my heroes, and have been for years.... What a heavy burden to carry some days. :-/

 

[EllieBee]

:welcome: JustFaith :welcome:

 

[CharlestonGal]

I had nightmares last night . I'm hesitant to go to sleep tonight .I should probably not read here for a few days . Just a quick question, It's been said in various news sources that K also had Children and Family services ( or whatever it's called in Fla ) involved in her life in the early 2000's . We can't find any sign of her having any children back then . What is everyone's thoughts on what that could be about ? Was she a minor and they were involved due to her family ?

KB talked about a child she gave up for adoption about 10 years ago (name D*****) and how her mother, SS, told a bunch of lies to get the baby taken away from her. I think her rights were terminated (voluntarily or not, I don't know) and the baby was adopted out. So CPS allegations in 2002-2003 would probably have been shortly after D***** was born and it probably took CPS 2-3 years to finalize the adoption/termination.