GUILTY FL - Cherish Perrywinkle, 8, Jacksonville, 21 June 2013 #1

[momrids6]

Well- they have him on camera in an aisle- hopefully there is more video of what transpired in the store.

 

[jjenny]

Just being out three weeks, this was not a planned and calculated act, he probably was working his nerve up or could not resist. This was one sick son of a *itch for a very long time.

I think this guy knew exactly what he wanted to do. Look at his previous offense.

"Stephanie Thornton believes her suspicions saved her daughter from becoming a victim. She said that in 2009, her family got a call from someone claiming to be with the Department of Children and Families. The man claimed Thornton's daughter had been raped and the agency needed to speak with her."
http://www.cfnews13.com/content/new...icles/bn9/2013/6/23/mother_accused_child.html

 

[violet67]

BBM, please, everyone, listen to your gut when it tells you to "get out." This breaks my heart...she knew, but she didnt listen to herself. I have learned that the hard way myself. We have to learn to respect and trust ourselves, and let our instincts do their job.

absolutely great advice! however I have a feeling this mom only had a hint of a creep-o-meter feeling. I am guessing this was one smooth talker who knew exactly what to say and how to come across and played on her naivety (jmo) I think she is now backtracking to cover her unfathomable guilt and as a reaction to so much animosity stirred up against her (and I understand the animosity.... but I just can't imagine what it must feel like to be in her shoes)

 

[floridamomma]

I'm not sure if you were referring to my post about someone paying for my meal, but I just wanted to clarify. I was responding to Necco's post, not comparing it to this case. That's why I put "way of topic here" at the beginning of my post. My apologies if it was confusing. :blushing:

oh, no, just in general

 

[MysteryMama]

I didn't see this article posted when I read, sorry if this is a repeat.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/06/22/us/florida-girl-killed/

 

[SwampMama]

ETA: This turned out to be longer than I expected and is somewhat of a rant because I am so distressed by his case on top of so many others. You may certainly skip it or ignore it. I just have to vent.

Not bashing the mom specifically, just speaking from my point of view because i am just fatigued from endless cases of children going missing, being sexually assaulted, killed and discarded. Then the horror of the life they lived comes to light after they are gone.

As a mom and a former teacher, this is so hard for me to even understand how/why this mom allowed this man to get this close to her children and to put them in this danger, all over the promise of $100 walmart card. Mom even admitted he was creeping her out. Yet she continued to stay in his company and failed to keep an even closer watch on her kids in the midst of this situation.

So why would a parent allow it to happen? Too often a lacking parent just wants that free handout, that something for nothing, someone else to take care of the responsibilities that they as parents are supposed to provide. I see it happen with other parents who drop their kids off to school or the library without even bothering to meet the adults in charge. They just want the free babysitting.

Offer "free" anything and watch who shows up to claim it. Many truly needy are too proud to claim it and will do without. Others, not so needy see this system as their right, their entitlements, there for them to use and to provide for them and their kids.

Yes, there are good people in the world who do good things and give to others. But there is also a population of people who expect that. They depend on the kindness of others and the bounty of the government and the benefits that come from having children that they can't afford.

There is also a population who knows that both of the above groups exists and pretend to be the former (the givers) while preying on the latter (the takers). It is the kids who suffer. The kids are used by their parents to get benefits and charity from do gooders and the gov't. The kids are also used by the predators who know that these kids are at risk.

In the end, it is the kids that pay the price for all of this. This is what upsets me so much. I am tired of innocent children paying the price for parent's poor choices (whether it is the life they live, the abuse the heap on kids, the psycho boyfriends or girlfriends that they allow to come into their kid's lives). I am tired of children being the targets of predators. I am tired of children being used, abused or neglected by the people who should be taking care of them (such as parents, caregivers, CPS workers, etc)

I had a neighbor who neglected her kids. Her very young boys wandered the streets and ended up at my house all the time. One was practically raised by me and lived with us. He came over and never went home for months. Mom never called to find out if they were ok. I asked her once if she would leave her jewelry out in the street unattended and she said " Hell no, my jewelry is worth money, it means a lot to me" (and the unspoken statement in that is that kids did NOT mean that much to her nor where they valuable).

Again, this is a general summary of my feeling about so many of the tragic events we see here on WS.I am not bashing any particular person, just the system or society that allows this to happen again and again. It it just my opinion and yours may vary and is equally valuable. We are all here because we care.

Seriously, my heart just hurts. Sorry for the rant.

 

[MysteryMama]

And another one, this link has a quote from Cherish's father.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=317595

 

[eileenhawkeye]

From Cherish's father:

"To everyone I am trying to stay politically correct and not express my true feelings of how our great system caused this. I spent many years in the court presenting issues and being ignored and told I was trying to hurt the mother. Now the truth of the great mother is out. It was at the cost of my child's life. RIP young lady. my nick name for her. My wife has tried to keep me off and not comment but the pain is too great and to know this could have been avoided. I gave the legal system all the signs for over many years." [sic]

 

[momrids6]

Notice the surveillance shot

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/rss/article/317454/3/-Charish-Lilly-Perriwinkle?odyssey=obinsite

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

absolutely great advice! however I have a feeling this mom only had a hint of a creep-o-meter feeling. I am guessing this was one smooth talker who knew exactly what to say and how to come across and played on her naivety (jmo) I think she is now backtracking to cover her unfathomable guilt and as a reaction to so much animosity stirred up against her (and I understand the animosity.... but I just can't imagine what it must feel like to be in her shoes)

Oh I hear that, and I also know that sometimes in hindsight things seem creepy even if they didn't set off any alarms at the time they actually happened - and that changes our actual memories of how we perceived them.

Myself, I am hypervigilant - I'm still in the process of learning which "alarms" to heed. I have made many mistakes along the way and I guess that's why i think it is so important that we make the most of our instincts...fine-tuning them by experience and then respecting them (and ourselves).

 

[Kaliste]

From Cherish's father:

I feel so so terrible for him.

 

[mikeysmommom]

I should think that the story of Charish's murder would do that all on its own, without the Wrath of the Internet having to be invoked.

Yes I use to think that too till I visited other sites.Where most people are not looking at the bigger picture because it scares them too much. I wondered why Charish did not scream when he lead her out that front door of Walmart he may of seemed nice but he still was a stranger to her.My grandson would have stopped and been upset if I just walked out without him getting McDonalds and he knows me.All schools teach stranger danger so she had to know that would have brought her help or at least made her mom aware she was gone.I called my grandson and talked about school ending and how now he will be going into third grade, then I asked him what he learned about stranger danger.One of the things he said was "Someone who my mom does not know"we went back and forth and I asked him if mommy talked to a stranger,he said "Silly than they would not be a stranger anymore,they would be her friend". I was floored, in all my years of being more or less a helicopter parent but one who always talked to retail clerks in my local shops never once did I ever dream to my child that made them my friends,thank God none were pedophiles.He will be 8 on the 7th.After spending hours with this man and all of them being in his van,this nice man who was buying mom a dress was now turned in to a friend in a very short time.To me that is important because it needs to be better explained to my own grandson and other children.

 

[MsFacetious]

I am so very glad to see that Cherish went to Disneyland, Grand Canyon... and other fun places.
It is a little bit reassuring to know that she DID have great memories... since we aren't hearing about those.

 

[geegeesmom]

And another one, this link has a quote from Cherish's father.
http://www.firstcoastnews.com/news/story.aspx?storyid=317595

His Facebook page has a lot of pics of the trips he took with Cherish. Interesting comments about the comparison to Somer Thompson. Which I don't believe this case resembles. I wonder where the live in boyfriend thought they were during those 4 hours?

 

[Tonya421]

Notice the surveillance shot

http://www.firstcoastnews.com/rss/article/317454/3/-Charish-Lilly-Perriwinkle?odyssey=obinsite

Are they in the kids' clothing?

I hope that piece of trash never sees the light of day

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

Are they in the kids' clothing?

I hope that piece of trash never sees the light of day

Kids' clothing, diapers..."not a predator," my butt.:stormingmad:

 

[jjenny]

Oh I hear that, and I also know that sometimes in hindsight things seem creepy even if they didn't set off any alarms at the time they actually happened - and that changes our actual memories of how we perceived them.

Myself, I am hypervigilant - I'm still in the process of learning which "alarms" to heed. I have made many mistakes along the way and I guess that's why i think it is so important that we make the most of our instincts...fine-tuning them by experience and then respecting them (and ourselves).

This woman got into a car with a guy she just met, and had her children get into a car. Then she either allowed this guy to take the child to McDonalds, or didn't watch her child to see that the child left with the guy. All over the promise of non-existing wife appearing with a 100$ gift card. This isn't rocket science-one has to have some common sense nowdays.

 

[BrownRice]

His Facebook page has a lot of pics of the trips he took with Cherish. Interesting comments about the comparison to Somer Thompson. Which I don't believe this case resembles. I wonder where the live in boyfriend thought they were during those 4 hours?

The comments regarding Deana Thompson are a result of Ms. Thompson releasing a statement this morning reaching out to the mom. Giving sympathy, etc.

 

[BrownRice]

Yes I use to think that too till I visited other sites.Where most people are not looking at the bigger picture because it scares them too much. I wondered why Charish did not scream when he lead her out that front door of Walmart he may of seemed nice but he still was a stranger to her.My grandson would have stopped and been upset if I just walked out without him getting McDonalds and he knows me.All schools teach stranger danger so she had to know that would have brought her help or at least made her mom aware she was gone.I called my grandson and talked about school ending and how now he will be going into third grade, then I asked him what he learned about stranger danger.One of the things he said was "Someone who my mom does not know"we went back and forth and I asked him if mommy talked to a stranger,he said "Silly than they would not be a stranger anymore,they would be her friend". I was floored, in all my years of being more or less a helicopter parent but one who always talked to retail clerks in my local shops never once did I ever dream to my child that made them my friends,thank God none were pedophiles.He will be 8 on the 7th.After spending hours with this man and all of them being in his van,this nice man who was buying mom a dress was now turned in to a friend in a very short time.To me that is important because it needs to be better explained to my own grandson and other children.

Because Mom trusted this guy, so Cherish probably assumed it was ok to go with him (if the tapes end up supporting the mom's story). There's no way my kids would leave with a stranger. BUT if they were given permission by me to go with someone that had been hanging around with us, and it was a VERY special treat of McDonalds, they wouldn't be suspicious. A friend of Mom's must be a friend of mine, right? He probably said Oh shoot, it's closed. Let's go to the McD next store and bring back burgers for everyone!

 

[PlainJaneDoe]

This woman got into a car with a guy she just met, and had her children get into a car. Then she either allowed this guy to take the child to McDonalds, or didn't watch her child to see that the child left with the guy. All over the promise of non-existing wife appearing with a 100$ gift card. This isn't rocket science-one has to have some common sense nowdays.

Hey, I agree with you. I was responding to the mom saying he seemed creepy.